Yorkie or Morkie?
 

I bought two puppies from the same breeder about a month apart. The first is all yorkie. The second I think is a morkie in spite of his papers. The second puppy is larger, his hair is much wavier, his snout is longer and narrower, his legs are longer especially his back legs, his chest is triangular and narrows in the front not boxy, he's gray and white with no beige, his ears are floppy, and his personality is much different. He's a total lapdog. Unlike the first dog who is hyper and fiesty, he's laidback and loveydovey.

We love them equally. We wouldn't change a thing. It's cool having two opposite dogs. They complement each other. But I am suspicious about the authenticity of his paperwork. The breeder we got them from also raised Maltese. When I bought the first pup, the mother and father yorkies were on premises. I got to pick from several puppies. The next time I went, there was only one puppy, and the parents were not introduced.

I suspect I was duped. Is there any way to tell for sure? I wouldn't do a thing about it. I am not planning on breeding him anyway. But, I would do some reading about maltese to see if I should do anything differently as a pet owner. I am not able to post pics for whatever reason, but this morkie looks identical to mine.

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You could always pop for the DNA testing if you really feel you need to know. What has your vet said about your pup?

That said, if she did sell you a mixed breed as a purebred, I would at the very least report her to which ever agency she is registering her dogs with.

I doubt we'll go that far.
 

I strongly suspect it though. He's healthy and cute and has a super personality, so it's fine. I just wish there was a cheaper way to know for my own peace of mind.

The vet said...
 

he's beautiful and wants him to be in the parade on her float. He really is pretty. lol

The photo of the dog you just posted looks like my dog, who is a morkie. Here also is Piper a YT member's morkie puppy http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/my-...-hair-cut.html

You really can't tell my looks alone so a DNA test is your best answer.

Yes he does.
 

In fact it was a picture of Cooper when we did a google image search that exacerbated our initial suspicion. The biggest difference in our boys to me is the coat. The fluffy, curly white hair on his head and face is very different.

I have a maltipoo and that adorable face is verrry familiar. You could always do the DNA test and if it is a fact, blackmail the breeder. If she doesn't cough up a refund you'll turn her in. That is a fraud she is committing... criminal act. Then you can use the money to buy doggie clothes and toys and all kinds of cool stuff, right here on YT from YT vendors..... just sayin'.....LOL

The pup you linked to looks just like my Piper did before her haircut. She is a 15 week old Maltese/Yorkie mix.

I bought him for my GF.
 

Her mom called the breeder, and he vehemently asserts he can prove the parentage. Still, I think one of his maltese got with the mother. How much is a DNA test usually? I paid 500 dollars for him.

DNA test ... it works and worth it it only takes 3 weeks and u will know

If the link you provided is your dog, it looks yorkie to me. So many people breed off standard yorkies that they no longer all look alike. My boy has curly hair too, that's called a cottony coat, and he has big floopy ears. Yorkies can also have lighter colored coats. The only way to know for sure is a DNA test. Kinda crazy huh?

Yeah...
 

I was just wondering. People who see our babies together always assume they are different breeds. lol

They are both very pretty though. I just think it's dirty if the breeder deliberately deceived us.

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a link to one you can buy online or instore, for 59.99 you can also get more precise ones for 150.00 but this one tells what breeds are in your dog....

I don't know if this is true, but I heard that one indication of a Morkie is they have brown fur under the top fur of their ears. I have two Morkies and they both have that. I would do a DNA test to find out for sure.

Also, can't a dog get pregnant by more than one male?? Might it be possible that two different dogs fathered that litter without the breeder knowing?

I think it's true. If that is the case, and your pup was AKC registered it is the breeders responsibility to have the pups DNA tested to make sure they have proper records.

dna tests are not expensive nowadays. What kind of papers did the breeder give you? what registry? If it was anything other than akc, then i would think the breeder duped you. Akc, while not perfect, requires better record keeping, while other registries such as aca, apri, etc does not. Before I knew any better, I registered Uni with aca. They do not even require a picture, or a witness! :eek: I could have registered a horse and a yorkie. seriously.

Also if he does turn out to be a mix, you need to get at least some of your money back. While $500 is not a lot to pay for a purebred , it is too much to pay for a mixed breed. Shelters are full of mixed breed dogs that you can adopt for $200 or even less sometimes. I would not want to support someone who purposely breeds mixed breeds, esp one who then lies and sells them as purbred.

Or that cannot keep an eye on their girl long enough to know what male impregnated her. :rolleyes:

Oh yeah, that too. :rolleyes: Can't believe how often that happens. :mad:

Its hard to tell you without seeing a pic of your dog.

But, a lot of people ask if my Chloe is a morkie because her ears are floppy but I am 100% positive that she is all yorkie.

Agreed, and i would also like to add that making the breeder refund your money, etc would help to keep this person from trying this again on someone else. If the breeder is in fact not being honest with you, they need to know that not all people are dumb and are easy to take advantage of.

That's very interesting. I only see gray hair on Cooper's ears.

$500 for a pure breed, where?
 

It probably depends on where you are. Around where I am you don't see a purebred for less than $1.5k (and that is very low). I adopted Nini, who is a Yorkie/Maltese mix (called around here a Yorkitese) for $900. The purebred Yorkies are around $1,500 for the males and $2k and up for the females.

In my local shelters a mix can be adopted for $350-$400 (at least the ones I wanted, because of doctor bills, upkeep, etc., so they say). Yorkietese buyers are usually on a waiting list with the lady I got Nini from, I guess it's because these puppies are sought after around here (?).

I agree the seller should be upfront if the puppy is not what the buyer expects. For $500 I would have been suspicious because it would have been a real bargain for me since I don't see a purebred for that price anywhere (even online), unless something's wrong with the pup :(.

I only see blonde
 

in Nini's :confused:

$500 for a purebred is not unheard of, if it is an older pup, or not bred to standard, or from a puppymill with a super fast turnaround, there are lots more reasons. However, there are lots of unethical breeders who will sell mixed breeds for more than what it costs to adopt on at a local shelter. Of course prices range from area to area, but you're saying that your breeder charges $900 for a yorkie/maltese mix? (that's called a MORKIE btw, not a yorkietese, unless she is trying to get some other type of 'spin" on it.) Like i said, any breeder who is breeding mixed breed pups ON PURPOSE and calling them cutesy designer names and charging thusly are only doing it for the money, NOT for the betterment of either breed.:thumbdown

Another thing a reputable breeder won't do is charge more for females than males. Why would *some* breeders charge more for females? bc you can breed them and get puppies of course! A reputable breeder for sure will not charge a $500 difference! They would only sell on spay/neuter contracts in the first place! And, please don't tell me your breeder also charges more for micros and teaspoons. :rolleyes:

I live in Orange Co, CA, it's expensive to live here. If I go to my local shelter, most dogs that are adoptable are about $75 or LESS. Puppies and kittens are a bit more bc they have a higher demand. I'm wondering why your local shelters are charging more than some rescues. makes me think.

If you buy a dog for $2000 plus, it better be from a reputable breeder/exhibitor with a health guarantee and champions in its pedigree, plus much more than that.

I got Uni for $1200, and while i love her how she is, she should not have cost that much, being from unknown lines, ACA "registered" (means absolutely nothing), LP grade 3, too light coloring, the list goes on. We need to stop supporting bad breeders!

huh?:confused:

Oh,
 

sorry, I didn't make sense. I meant to say that I see yellow hair on Nini's ears to your mention of your baby's white hair. I'll put up a picture where she's not in the sunlight so that it's better to see. I've never seen white hair on a Yorkie mix head, unless he/she's older. I thought your baby's hair looked so light because of the light hitting him from the flash or something. BTW, your baby's beautiful :)

Aww thank you. His head is tan and light gray.

Yes, I hear 'Morkie' but Yorkietese is more popular
 

in this area and it's not just breeders but people I meet that refer to these pups that way. I really couldn't tell you who came up with it or if there's a recognized and accepted single term for this mix. If I tell people Nini is a Morkie, usually, people look at me with a huh? look. So to save myself the explanation I say 'Yorkie/Maltese' and usually they respond with, 'oh, a Yorkietese!' I let them choose what they want to call her mix :)

I agree with you lots of unethical breeders and money hungry people marketing these poor babies. The person whom I adopted Nini from, swore to me that even though she sells them out a business facility, her babies came from just a few and ethical breeders who don't mass-produce. She even has pictures in her wall of the moms with their pups in regular homes (kitchens, living rooms, etc). I guess $900 was what our market was bearing at the time (the place was full almost every day and the day I got Nini, a lot of people adopted. 'Morkies' were adopted the fastest), I don't know about now.
I thought puppy-mills were places out in the yard with kennels, one on top of another and dozens of dogs cramped into them. Anyway, that was before I knew better.

$500? Yeah, older and as you said, puppy-mill etc. I just haven't been able to add another member to my family because of the prices. If you do a search here in NE PA, NJ and NY, you'll see what ridiculous numbers for a healthy, well bread baby. Stores in NY and NJ $2.5k and $3-5k micros & tinies---yes! :( Google it, or research prices right here in YT, you'll see. I won't tell you what 'reputable breeders' want, you may have a little heart-attack.

Nicky is a Biewer, I adopted him because the girls were double the price and I wasn't going to breed them and I adopted him from 'a reputable breeder.' It's sad. Yes, females are more than males even if not breeding :eek: The breeders give me a ton of excuses as to why the girl is more that the boy.

I have got to go visit relatives up where you are, $500 is great for me ;)
I tried my local shelter, but it didn't work out, I wish it did and not for the money part but because I'd love to help a poor baby. Cats aren't so sought after here, so there's a lot of them in shelters.

Please, if you know of a (real) reputable breeder with babies at the $500 mark for a healthy, less than 3 yr old, let me know.