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Britster 06-28-2010 03:07 PM

I also wanted to add, I'm not saying that people who give up or rehome their dogs are bad people because I understand that situations DO arise that people don't have control over, of course. But in something like this-- where you DO have the ability to work around it and keep your dog... it just doesn't make sense to me. But I'm not judging anyone. It's just not something I would feel comfortable doing. If I were to leave Jackson at my dads house for 2yrs and come back and just take him to living with just me & him, yes, he would surely be excited to see me and I'm sure he would get used to our new schedule, but I would feel terrible taking him away from the home had grown to love and be happy at over the past few years I had been away.

kalina82 06-28-2010 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Britster (Post 3179078)
...when I got a dog, I committed to him 100%. I would never/could never leave him for those lengths of times. I will never live in a place that doesn't allow him. Period. I accommodate my life and my schedule for his sake. If you had a child and decided to go to college, you can't just drop your kid off with someone for a year, so I would never do it to a dog.

I have to agree with Brit on this one. When i purchased Morgan i knew that i had made a lifetime commitment to her and i would be her primary caretaker for the rest of her life. Anywhere i go, she goes. If i need to move i will only go to a place that allows pets (i have a dog and a cat). I couldn't go somewhere without her. It would kill me. I had the opportunity to go to Kentucky for special classes and i would have to live there for 2 months. They said the housing they provide doesn't allow pets, so i told them that i wouldn't be attending unless my dog could go with me. In the end we arranged it so that if i decided to go they would allow me to bring her if i paid a refundable security deposit. problem solved. in the end i didn't end up going but i made sure that if i did go i made all possible arrangements so Morgan could go with me.

If you personally get the dog for yourself then it is your dog and your responsibility. If you get the dog with your family then i can see you leaving him home with the family while you go to school. Since that doesn't seem to be an option because your mother works long hours, you should do whatever it takes to be able to bring your dog with you where ever you go. If that is not possible then you need to find him a new home. I don't think its fair to leave him with someone else for a year or two or three and then show up one day and take him away again. Personally i do not think its fair to the dog.

Princes mom 06-28-2010 04:38 PM

Question...why would you get a dog knowing that you would be leaving for college in a few years?:confused::confused::confused::confused:

Has he been around that other dog before?

wwyt

Disney 06-28-2010 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by kalina82 (Post 3179720)
I have to agree with Brit on this one. When i purchased Morgan i knew that i had made a lifetime commitment to her and i would be her primary caretaker for the rest of her life. Anywhere i go, she goes. If i need to move i will only go to a place that allows pets (i have a dog and a cat). I couldn't go somewhere without her. It would kill me. I had the opportunity to go to Kentucky for special classes and i would have to live there for 2 months. They said the housing they provide doesn't allow pets, so i told them that i wouldn't be attending unless my dog could go with me. In the end we arranged it so that if i decided to go they would allow me to bring her if i paid a refundable security deposit. problem solved. in the end i didn't end up going but i made sure that if i did go i made all possible arrangements so Morgan could go with me.

If you personally get the dog for yourself then it is your dog and your responsibility. If you get the dog with your family then i can see you leaving him home with the family while you go to school. Since that doesn't seem to be an option because your mother works long hours, you should do whatever it takes to be able to bring your dog with you where ever you go. If that is not possible then you need to find him a new home. I don't think its fair to leave him with someone else for a year or two or three and then show up one day and take him away again. Personally i do not think its fair to the dog.

:thumbup: Totally agree. Wasn't sure how to say this but you hit nail on head.

CJxDanielle 06-28-2010 05:16 PM

Again everyone this is an OPTION! And again I say is in no way permanent.

I will not rehome my dog so we can just throw that out the window. Like I said things can go either way for me & cody, it just depends what happens in the next two years. Please don't make it seem as if I am not trying to bring him with me. I am. I am hoping to get into at least one of the two colleges I know of that accepts dogs, that is why I am working my butt of this year and senior year. I am also looking into being in a roommate situation with one of my BFs, but it just depends where we all decide to go to college.


As for getting my dog last year. I was a sophomore in HS not thinking about College at the time. I know of atleast 3 people who also have gotten a dog around the same time as me.

I will look into other options, that is always the plan. You people make it seem like I am throwing Cody away, when that is frankly not the case. If I didn't care about my dog, I wouldn't be looking into options for him. I love him and it seems a bit unfair that a lot of you are making it seem as if I don't.

He is again my baby.

Like I said, I am open to all suggestions, but beating me over the head for trying to find proper care for my dog if all else fails isn't helping at all.

Disney 06-28-2010 05:25 PM

We don't mean you ae throwing him away, it's just when it's pointed out this option is not the best one you are contesting it. You say now this is only an option but before you stated it was either this or have him crated all day, that's why people are suggesting rehome. No one is beating you over the head. We all have common goal, yes? What's best for Cody.

Also, because other teenagers did it, doesn't make it correct. Like you said you have two years to come up with a better option. Hopefully you can take Cody with you otherwise I would suggest rehoming him if he is to be crated all day or given to someone else then taken away.

Princes mom 06-28-2010 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CJxDanielle (Post 3179872)
Again everyone this is an OPTION! And again I say is in no way permanent.

I will not rehome my dog so we can just throw that out the window. Like I said things can go either way for me & cody, it just depends what happens in the next two years. Please don't make it seem as if I am not trying to bring him with me. I am. I am hoping to get into at least one of the two colleges I know of that accepts dogs, that is why I am working my butt of this year and senior year. I am also looking into being in a roommate situation with one of my BFs, but it just depends where we all decide to go to college.


As for getting my dog last year. I was a sophomore in HS not thinking about College at the time. I know of atleast 3 people who also have gotten a dog around the same time as me.

I will look into other options, that is always the plan. You people make it seem like I am throwing Cody away, when that is frankly not the case. If I didn't care about my dog, I wouldn't be looking into options for him. I love him and it seems a bit unfair that a lot of you are making it seem as if I don't.

He is again my baby.

Like I said, I am open to all suggestions, but beating me over the head for trying to find proper care for my dog if all else fails isn't helping at all.

That was a good decision...to attend college. No one is "beating you over the head." I think people are just trying to understand, and for some of us, it's very hard.

jackson25 06-28-2010 05:37 PM

My 2 cents....
 
Realizing dogs are adaptive to their environments, they are also adaptive to their daily routines & owners. If one has to re-home due to an issue beyond their control, I believe that is acceptable, this particular situation is not beyond control. Any puppy is a 10-20 year commitment not to be taken lightly. I have been on vacations for a week and left my crew in the wonderful hands of my MIL, and still when I walk in the door they are beyond ecstatic to see me and I miss them DEARLY! Wishing you all the best in doing what is right for Cody!:)

Just a question....was the breeder of Cody aware of your age when you got him?

CJxDanielle 06-28-2010 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Disney (Post 3179887)
We don't mean you ae throwing him away, it's just when it's pointed out this option is not the best one you are contesting it. You say now this is only an option but before you stated it was either this or have him crated all day, that's why people are suggesting rehome. No one is beating you over the head. We all have common goal, yes? What's best for Cody.

Also, because other teenagers did it, doesn't make it correct. Like you said you have two years to come up with a better option. Hopefully you can take Cody with you otherwise I would suggest rehoming him if he is to be crated all day or given to someone else then taken away.

That is the option in front of us at this moment. I really do want to get into either Stephen's or Eckerd College so that Cody can come with me! They are both private colleges and I would need excellent grades and scholarships to attend either.

As for the roommate, again depends where we all decide to go.

I could go instate, depending on if I am excepted. That way Cody could be with me (depends where instate though).

As you see there are a plenty of options, plenty of ways for this to go. This is most definitely not a situation about my interest but Cody's. The OP's title says it all. Its nice to know my furbutt will be taken care of that. That is if all else fails.

Surely no one wants me not to go to college because Cody would be in the crate many hours a day if I did. Try to find common ground which probably won't be clear till my senior year no doubt.

CJxDanielle 06-28-2010 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jackson25 (Post 3179905)
Just a question....was the breeder of Cody aware of your age when you got him?

Cody was from an accidental litter of puppies. She was indeed aware of my age (as many are, but I'm sure she thought I was in a lower grade then I really am because of that fact).

VomLeo 06-28-2010 05:42 PM

This will be my last post on this thread.

It is fact Disney. It's called numerous studies with a drop of common sense.
I never said that every dog reacts the same. I said that all dogs will move on.
Which IS fact. No it has nothing to because "I saw it" or "I said so"- lets not be childish here. It has everything to do with years of experience in the field Disney. How long have you been training dogs and studying their behavior may I ask? How much real life experience do you have with this topic in depth Disney? Answer me that Batman. How any of you begin to talk about Dani's commitment to her dog or love for him is nearsighted & plain rude. How dare you question her commitment to her dog! Who is (as we all know) her baby. That is like telling a mother that she isn't fully committed to raising her own children!

"I'm sorry, but saying you're right because of what you have experienced and what you see is 'fact' is not right. I've seen dogs go through great stress and not deal well at all with similar arrangement. Does that mean I'm right because of what I've seen? Does that make my opinion fact? No."

How was the handler at this time treating the dog? What methods did they take to ensure the dogs reaction and adaptation to the situation? How did they interact with the dog during the time when it was still stressed? Answer me this...then we'll talk.

That my friend is your problem! Here in lies the issue! Dogs should not be babied because of their breeding or genetics. They are all dogs just as much as we are all humans. Dogs do not differ in thought mode because of where they came from. I am willing to bet you $100 bucks that the only 'issue' Cody will develope if any is separation anxiety. I'm dead serious. I am willing to bet cash- and I don't even bet.

Your last paragraph was just...wow.
Scroll up and re-read my post here. Then read what you said- and vise versa.

Disney 06-28-2010 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VomLeo (Post 3179918)
This will be my last post on this thread.

It is fact Disney. It's called numerous studies with a drop of common sense.
I never said that every dog reacts the same. I said that all dogs will move on.
Which IS fact. No it has nothing to because "I saw it" or "I said so"- lets not be childish here. It has everything to do with years of experience in the field Disney. How long have you been training dogs and studying their behavior may I ask? How much real life experience do you have with this topic in depth Disney? Answer me that Batman. How any of you begin to talk about Dani's commitment to her dog or love for him is nearsighted & plain rude. How dare you question her commitment to her dog! Who is (as we all know) her baby. That is like telling a mother that she isn't fully committed to raising her own children!

"I'm sorry, but saying you're right because of what you have experienced and what you see is 'fact' is not right. I've seen dogs go through great stress and not deal well at all with similar arrangement. Does that mean I'm right because of what I've seen? Does that make my opinion fact? No."

How was the handler at this time treating the dog? What methods did they take to ensure the dogs reaction and adaptation to the situation? How did they interact with the dog during the time when it was still stressed? Answer me this...then we'll talk.

That my friend is your problem! Here in lies the issue! Dogs should not be babied because of their breeding or genetics. They are all dogs just as much as we are all humans. Dogs do not differ in thought mode because of where they came from. I am willing to bet you $100 bucks that the only 'issue' Cody will develope if any is separation anxiety. I'm dead serious. I am willing to bet cash- and I don't even bet.

Your last paragraph was just...wow.
Scroll up and re-read my post here. Then read what you said- and vise versa.


Why should I answer any of your questions if you're not going to respond? :confused: That would just be a total waste of time. And again, you haven't actually given me any evidence. You is just saying their is evidence. Please show me.

I'll be happy to answer your questions if you intend on coming back, also you don't need to be rude to me, I was not rude to you.

VomLeo 06-28-2010 05:51 PM

To be honest? I'm lazy.
I don't feel like surfing for 'evidence' right now to prove the obvious.
LOL, oh trust me...I never expected my questions to be answered.

It seems you are putting your own emotions into my post.
It was not intended to be rude- only informative & firm.
The only 'rude' part would be what I highlighted in italics here in this post.

jackson25 06-28-2010 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VomLeo (Post 3179918)
This will be my last post on this thread.

It is fact Disney. It's called numerous studies with a drop of common sense.
I never said that every dog reacts the same. I said that all dogs will move on.
Which IS fact. No it has nothing to because "I saw it" or "I said so"- lets not be childish here. It has everything to do with years of experience in the field Disney. How long have you been training dogs and studying their behavior may I ask? How much real life experience do you have with this topic in depth Disney? Answer me that Batman. How any of you begin to talk about Dani's commitment to her dog or love for him is nearsighted & plain rude. How dare you question her commitment to her dog! Who is (as we all know) her baby. That is like telling a mother that she isn't fully committed to raising her own children!
"I'm sorry, but saying you're right because of what you have experienced and what you see is 'fact' is not right. I've seen dogs go through great stress and not deal well at all with similar arrangement. Does that mean I'm right because of what I've seen? Does that make my opinion fact? No."

How was the handler at this time treating the dog? What methods did they take to ensure the dogs reaction and adaptation to the situation? How did they interact with the dog during the time when it was still stressed? Answer me this...then we'll talk.

That my friend is your problem! Here in lies the issue! Dogs should not be babied because of their breeding or genetics. They are all dogs just as much as we are all humans. Dogs do not differ in thought mode because of where they came from. I am willing to bet you $100 bucks that the only 'issue' Cody will develope if any is separation anxiety. I'm dead serious. I am willing to bet cash- and I don't even bet.

Your last paragraph was just...wow.
Scroll up and re-read my post here. Then read what you said- and vise versa.

Trying to show compassion here;) What do college student mothers do with there children when they go off to college?

VomLeo 06-28-2010 05:56 PM

When my mother went to college I went and lived with my Grandfather in Colorado ;)
I really like what you did with the red and the font...looks smashing if I don't say so myself.


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