An opportunity but hubby says NO!
 

So the BYB I know is looking for a home for her male Yorkie. Rico is a 1 year old, sweet, little (1 1/2 lbs) boy who has a humping problem. He humps all day long. Anything and everything. He also isn't potty trained.

The BYB has put stipulations on who she wants Rico to go to because she wants him close so she can visit him. She also says that he can't go to a home who will neuter him. AND she wants someone who is familiar with the breed.

We've been offered the opportunity to have him but hubby says NO. I'm purely thinking with my heart on this one. Rico spends 9/10ths of his day in a crate. He gets little social interaction and is basically a sperm donor. That's it! At least in our home he would get the necessary interaction he needs to make him a great dog. Right now he's afraid of his own shadow. I just don't know what to do. I want this little guy to know what a loving home is all about but I also worry that too many negative things have been instilled in him that he may not overcome.

Thoughts? Suggestions?

Awww....poor little thing. Why wouldn't she want him neutered??

Why would she not want him neutered if he's going to be a pet in someone else's home? Sounds to me like she just wants to have someone else feed/vet/care for him so she can use him as a sperm donor when the mood strikes.:thumbdown

As much as you want to save him, could you handle being stuck with the BYB in your life?

At 1 year old - he is still young enough to learn love and be socialized.

Belly Bands are great for the humping and marking.

I say follow your heart ;) You CAN mold him to be what you want to be.

And down the road you CAN neuter him, after all - he will be YOURS ;)

Really weird why he can't be neutered..
And its sad to hear he is in his crate so long.

good luck. x

Awww, I hope you can persuade your DH that Rico is in need of a loving home and your in the position to give it to him......Good luck and I hope it works out.....

That's exactly what I'm thinking.

Once he's yours, she can't really tell you not to neuter him. If She gets mad, too bad, not her Rico anymore! Come up with a plan on how you plan to potty train him, obidence train him, and deal with the neutering issue and then go talk to the hubby. He may be more willing to listen if he sees you have a plan and have thought this through :) good luck!!!

:thumbup: Agreed!!

I agree!

Are contracts allowed to tell you NOT to neuter pets? I know a lot of shelters say you HAVE to neuter your puppy by a certain date for obvious reasons, but I've never heard of the opposite. I think you'd be a great home for him:)

Well, hubby is NOT on board. We have 4 dogs in the house already and he just doesn't feel we have the room for 1 more. Rico is so small, I don't see one more making a huge difference. I'm also the one who would be training him because I'm home all day. I'm thinking of doing a trial run (1 or 2 weeks) to see how it goes. Nothing ventured, nothing gained. Right?

Anywho, the BYB is adamant about the neuter. She is looking for a permanent home. However, she wants to be able to have access to Rico for another breeding to her female. Why? I don't know. Rico is NOT papered. And, I believe, he doesn't possess outstanding qualities that make him a wanted stud. The poor thing is better suited for a lap dog.

I've attached a pic of him. He's the one closest.

My thoughts EXACTLY! Also, whether it's you or anyone else that takes him, shouldn't he have paperwork that signs him over to the new owner? Otherwise, this BYB who sounds less than loving toward her pups, could re-claim him and use him as a sperm donor whenver she wants to. I feel so bad for this baby, because I read somewhere a while ago that excessive humping is a sign of anxiety. :(

Honestly, this doesn't sound like the greatest situation.

This "breeder" wants someone to train her dog, pay its medical bills and cost of keep and then use him as a stud whenever her heart so pleases, so she can get money out of him but not put anything into him. I personally wouldn't want to be any part of that.

:thumbup::thumbup:

It's horrible that she's breeding an un-papered male. Anyone who does take him could potentially be on the hook for any pups he sires down the road.

The things she's doing makes her not only a BYB, but a very, very BAD one at that.

I agree, it doesn't sound very legit. BUT, ;) if both of you sign something that names YOU as the new owner, then I think you could get away with the neuter...."oops, did you say DON'T neuter him?" "Sorry, I though he was mine"

IMO if your willing to take him in then you are agreeing with her on USING THIS dog as a stud!! I wouldn't even think twice about taking him. You are only getting on her level.

This is a tough one. On one side, Rico needs out of that home ASAP!!!
On the other side, if you take him and follow her rules, you're supporting an awful backyard breeder. Or should I say "greeder." I was thinking, what if you give her some money for him (you made it sound like Rico was free) and have a receipt for him. That makes him your "property" now and having him neutered will be your right as his new owner. You could use the excuse that in case he gets sick and needs emergency care, you want to show that you are the rightful owner and can make decisions towards his care. I doubt someone like this would have you sign a contract stating he is *not* to be neutered.

This byb is pure scum. If it were me, I'd "agree" to her terms, then once she came by looking for him say, Oh he ran away, or someone stole him. Then get him neutered. Poor guy, he deserves so much better.

Opportunity
 

I gotta quit reading these things. I'm tempted, but would want to get him fixed. He's young enough to be trained. He's beautiful and looks just like my 18 month old female who is 3 lbs.

Oh this is sad, I imagine neutering will stop some of the humping, and belly bands can help with the marking. I would probably get him and have him neutered and try to rehome him if my husband was throwing a fit.

His humping a lot may be due to the fact that she has already been using him as a stud even though he is just a baby. Since he doesn't have papers anyway she probably doesn't care about his age.

In my opinion it will be hard for you to get rid of some of his bad habits if he is used as a stud. I don't think fully intact males are as easy to live with due to marking and humping issues.

I realize your heart is in the right place but even if he is a tiny guy he could cause big issues between you and your other pets and your husband.

I would only take him if there are no strings attached and he should be neutered immediately. Tell her your requirements then let her think about it. Maybe she will come around.

Sounds like ALOT to take on. And may be very difficult to train him, since he has been living his entire life inside a kennel.

However, if someone were to adopt this dog..... I would hope the new owner would immediately go have him neutered. This woman, needs to be stopped with what she is trying to do.

I believe it would NOT be in the best interest of this poor little dog, to have that woman be able to visit with him. After all, she does not want him. Does not want to take full responsibility by keeping him and training him herself.

I rescued a sweet yorkie years ago that I realize now, was from a back yard breeder. This poor little girl was over bred and really was not being well cared for. I almost did not take her but I felt sorry for her and worried about what would happen, if I did not take her home with me. I brought this girl home, gave her a good bath and she became a very happy and very loved little girl for the last years of her life. Cricket passed away in 1995, in her sleep of a heart attack. No symptoms or warning signs.... prior to this happening. I was so heartbroken and could not bring myself to having another dog since losing "Cricket".... until this year. Now I have a 6 month old Pomeranian puppy and a 4 month old yorkie puppy. I am loving every moment of being "Mommy" to my two puppies.

I pray for this poor little yorkie. I pray someone will take him in and give him the love and attention that he needs. And will get him neutered, keeping him far away from this woman that currently has him.

Aww he is so cute and tiny, its very sad she wont allow him to be neutered
and live a happy pet life without being used to breed :( wishing you the very best with your decision. its a tough one.

I'll take him.

Then I'll nuter him, train him to be a therapy dog as I'm doing with my current dog and love him as part of my family.

How very sad that the breader wouldn't allow such a wonderful life. :(

I don't understand, if the dog basicaly lives in a cage :mad: why does she want to visit him? She obviously doesn't care about him.:(

I'm pretty sure the "visits" would coincide with needing his sperm for breeding. Sounds like she doesn't want to deal with belly bands, marking, and humping behaviors that come with a stud dog and keeping him in a cage is easier. If someone else is willing to put up with the behaviors she isn't, and she still has access to his sperm, it's a win/win for her. I don't think there is any one that is not going to breed a male that would have the long term patients to tolerate a behavior that is normal for breeding males. And expecting to train it away without neutering I believe is an unreasonable expectation for you and him. This person is completely self centered and selfish but unless you are able to lower the testosterone with a neuter, you're setting yourself up for failure.

At such a tiny size i would be worried about neutering him.He also may have an allergy to ansthesia so i would def find out her reasoning.Most likely he would continue to hump after a neuter although maybe not as excessive.
It would be a lot to take on if she crated him so much why does she care so much about visiting the poor little guy.It is hard to untrain circliling .
gl to you do what you feel is right in your heart this little one sounds like he is going to need a very caring home.gl to you with your decision:)