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Mary4 05-20-2010 10:57 AM
He bit someone
 
I still can't quite believe it. Last night my ex-husband stopped by with something for the kids. Charlie bit him!!! Not a play bite either. A real bite. He didn't break the skin, thank God. I wasn't there. My daughter said that my ex went to pat him and put his hand over the top of his head and the next thing Charlie bit him. The first time Charlie met my ex, he immediately started growling and barking and wouldn't stop. I thought it was sort of funny at the time because the guy really is not a nice guy. But both times we weren't arguing or anything.

Overall, Charlie seems to not like men. He'll play with my boys if the girls aren't around. He ignores my dad and really doesn't want anything to do with him. My older daughter, when her friends come over, he's all over the girls but wants nothing to do with the boys. But he's never growled at anyone, other than my ex.

What should I do about this? Do you think it's a real concern? (Charlie is about 15 weeks old now.) I just don't want him to do anything like this with anyone else.

yorkieusa 05-20-2010 11:10 AM
If it was me? Say, "Sickum!":D OK Just kidding. Whenever he does that, he should be corrected. Just a light tap on the nose and a very, very firm "NO!" should get his attention. It must be stopped or it could get worse.

DamSweet 05-20-2010 11:12 AM
I know it's not funny - but I couldn't help but think that I would like to teach Bridget to do that!!!! Sorry - I hope someone can help!

Rhetts_mama 05-20-2010 11:16 AM
JMO- but I'd be saying "good dog". He's obviously picking up on something.

Roccosmommy 05-20-2010 11:26 AM
15 weeks and already picking up on the bad-man vibes from your ex? Good boy Charlie!...Just kidding. Seriously, his aversion to men may be because of your ex (he's relating all men to his first impression of him). I'm no expert, (but I've watched a lot of them) and what I would do is teach him that men/boys can be a good thing by having them (your dad, your daughter's teen friends, etc.) greet him with a small treat. Do not have them pet him, just greet him briefly with a treat and then let Charlie go on his way. As he gets more comfortable, have some SUPERVISED petting/play time with some males then finish that session with a treat. He will very soon get the idea that not ALL men are dogs!! :animal36 :p Good luck to you and keep us posted.

megansmomma 05-20-2010 11:30 AM
Well I guess my question would be -didn't he know not to approach a dog like that? My suggestion would be to continue to socialize Charlie as much as possible in a reassuring manner.

stingraylady 05-20-2010 11:38 AM
Hee, hee, hee, hee, hee:grin2:

Rhetts_mama 05-20-2010 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Roccosmommy (Post 3135577)
15 weeks and already picking up on the bad-man vibes from your ex? Good boy Charlie!...Just kidding. Seriously, his aversion to men may be because of your ex (he's relating all men to his first impression of him). I'm no expert, (but I've watched a lot of them) and what I would do is teach him that men/boys can be a good thing by having them (your dad, your daughter's teen friends, etc.) greet him with a small treat. Do not have them pet him, just greet him briefly with a treat and then let Charlie go on his way. As he gets more comfortable, have some SUPERVISED petting/play time with some males then finish that session with a treat. He will very soon get the idea that not ALL men are dogs!! :animal36 :p Good luck to you and keep us posted.
We talked about this yesterday in obedience class. My mom's yorkie wants very little to do with my father and hides from other men. The instructor suggested the same thing:come in, don't say anything to the dog or try to touch it, just offer the treat and let the dog realize that men/boys are a good thing on their own time schedule.

But I do KNOW they pick up on things we can't/won't/don't. When I was moving I interviewed several companies. My mini doxie was fine with everyone except one man, in fact he came through the screen door to try and bite him. I found out later that this one co. had several employees charged with theft.

Roccosmommy 05-20-2010 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Rhetts_mama (Post 3135605)
We talked about this yesterday in obedience class. My mom's yorkie wants very little to do with my father and hides from other men. The instructor suggested the same thing:come in, don't say anything to the dog or try to touch it, just offer the treat and let the dog realize that men/boys are a good thing on their own time schedule.

But I do KNOW they pick up on things we can't/won't/don't. When I was moving I interviewed several companies. My mini doxie was fine with everyone except one man, in fact he came through the screen door to try and bite him. I found out later that this one co. had several employees charged with theft.
They are our little guardian angels in fur!! ;)

yorkieusa 05-20-2010 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by megansmomma (Post 3135580)
Well I guess my question would be -didn't he know not to approach a dog like that? My suggestion would be to continue to socialize Charlie as much as possible in a reassuring manner.
Yes, I agree. He probably thought he was going to hit him.:D

Lizzie07 05-20-2010 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Roccosmommy (Post 3135577)
15 weeks and already picking up on the bad-man vibes from your ex? Good boy Charlie!...Just kidding. Seriously, his aversion to men may be because of your ex (he's relating all men to his first impression of him). I'm no expert, (but I've watched a lot of them) and what I would do is teach him that men/boys can be a good thing by having them (your dad, your daughter's teen friends, etc.) greet him with a small treat. Do not have them pet him, just greet him briefly with a treat and then let Charlie go on his way. As he gets more comfortable, have some SUPERVISED petting/play time with some males then finish that session with a treat. He will very soon get the idea that not ALL men are dogs!! :animal36 :p Good luck to you and keep us posted.
:thumbup::thumbup: Absolutely try this first, before anything else. It's positive reinforcement, the best way for a puppy or dog to learn. He will happily learn that men and boys are okay. When I start training something new, I always use high value treats. Use the super yummy treats, not the everyday treats.

yorkielady06 05-20-2010 01:08 PM
Ok I am sorry but I do have to do this....
BAHAHAHA HAHA HAHA...(pee in pants) Ha ha ha ...he he he snicker...lol
Ok now seriously, you have had some wonderful suggestions to socialize him to men. If it was just your ex...then good dog..right??:D
Sorry I just got divorced last month so I had to live in your dogs moment.

AddieandMiaMom 05-20-2010 02:30 PM
Use the positive reinforcement method of treats (what Charlie considers high value, might not be what you consider high value) and having men/boys give to him without looking/touching him until he becomes comfortable around them. These treats only come from these men/boys, never from you. If you hit him for growling at your ex, it could make the situation worse because Charlie will take the approach of your ex to mean getting hit. He could then become more agressive, and the next bite could break skin.

You might also want to ask your ex to not reach over Charlie's head to pet him, if you're able to. He shouldn't be touching/looking at him any more than the other men/boys in your life or those of your children. He should also be giving treats to Charlie, if you feel comfortable asking him to do so.

Mary4 05-21-2010 03:19 AM
There's a part of me that thinks this is hilarious. Obviously, Charlie can size up someone's character very easily. My ex is beyond a jerk. He's not a nice guy at all. (Our other dog didn't like him either.)

Other men, Charlie just ignores. He won't get too close and just seems uncomfortable. He doesn't shake or bark or growl at them.

I'll try having my dad give him some yummy treats and see how that goes. I'd like him to get along with my dad. We're going on vacation in August and I want to leave him here with my dad. I can't bear the thought of putting him in a kennel, and if I cancel the vacation, my kids will be terribly disappointed.

John Stelting 05-21-2010 05:20 AM
This isn't really funny
 
If her ex-husband wants to he can report this the animal control and the dog can be put down as an aggressive dog.


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