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Mary4 05-20-2010 10:57 AM

He bit someone
 
I still can't quite believe it. Last night my ex-husband stopped by with something for the kids. Charlie bit him!!! Not a play bite either. A real bite. He didn't break the skin, thank God. I wasn't there. My daughter said that my ex went to pat him and put his hand over the top of his head and the next thing Charlie bit him. The first time Charlie met my ex, he immediately started growling and barking and wouldn't stop. I thought it was sort of funny at the time because the guy really is not a nice guy. But both times we weren't arguing or anything.

Overall, Charlie seems to not like men. He'll play with my boys if the girls aren't around. He ignores my dad and really doesn't want anything to do with him. My older daughter, when her friends come over, he's all over the girls but wants nothing to do with the boys. But he's never growled at anyone, other than my ex.

What should I do about this? Do you think it's a real concern? (Charlie is about 15 weeks old now.) I just don't want him to do anything like this with anyone else.

yorkieusa 05-20-2010 11:10 AM

If it was me? Say, "Sickum!":D OK Just kidding. Whenever he does that, he should be corrected. Just a light tap on the nose and a very, very firm "NO!" should get his attention. It must be stopped or it could get worse.

DamSweet 05-20-2010 11:12 AM

I know it's not funny - but I couldn't help but think that I would like to teach Bridget to do that!!!! Sorry - I hope someone can help!

Rhetts_mama 05-20-2010 11:16 AM

JMO- but I'd be saying "good dog". He's obviously picking up on something.

Roccosmommy 05-20-2010 11:26 AM

15 weeks and already picking up on the bad-man vibes from your ex? Good boy Charlie!...Just kidding. Seriously, his aversion to men may be because of your ex (he's relating all men to his first impression of him). I'm no expert, (but I've watched a lot of them) and what I would do is teach him that men/boys can be a good thing by having them (your dad, your daughter's teen friends, etc.) greet him with a small treat. Do not have them pet him, just greet him briefly with a treat and then let Charlie go on his way. As he gets more comfortable, have some SUPERVISED petting/play time with some males then finish that session with a treat. He will very soon get the idea that not ALL men are dogs!! :animal36 :p Good luck to you and keep us posted.

megansmomma 05-20-2010 11:30 AM

Well I guess my question would be -didn't he know not to approach a dog like that? My suggestion would be to continue to socialize Charlie as much as possible in a reassuring manner.

stingraylady 05-20-2010 11:38 AM

Hee, hee, hee, hee, hee:grin2:

Rhetts_mama 05-20-2010 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Roccosmommy (Post 3135577)
15 weeks and already picking up on the bad-man vibes from your ex? Good boy Charlie!...Just kidding. Seriously, his aversion to men may be because of your ex (he's relating all men to his first impression of him). I'm no expert, (but I've watched a lot of them) and what I would do is teach him that men/boys can be a good thing by having them (your dad, your daughter's teen friends, etc.) greet him with a small treat. Do not have them pet him, just greet him briefly with a treat and then let Charlie go on his way. As he gets more comfortable, have some SUPERVISED petting/play time with some males then finish that session with a treat. He will very soon get the idea that not ALL men are dogs!! :animal36 :p Good luck to you and keep us posted.

We talked about this yesterday in obedience class. My mom's yorkie wants very little to do with my father and hides from other men. The instructor suggested the same thing:come in, don't say anything to the dog or try to touch it, just offer the treat and let the dog realize that men/boys are a good thing on their own time schedule.

But I do KNOW they pick up on things we can't/won't/don't. When I was moving I interviewed several companies. My mini doxie was fine with everyone except one man, in fact he came through the screen door to try and bite him. I found out later that this one co. had several employees charged with theft.

Roccosmommy 05-20-2010 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Rhetts_mama (Post 3135605)
We talked about this yesterday in obedience class. My mom's yorkie wants very little to do with my father and hides from other men. The instructor suggested the same thing:come in, don't say anything to the dog or try to touch it, just offer the treat and let the dog realize that men/boys are a good thing on their own time schedule.

But I do KNOW they pick up on things we can't/won't/don't. When I was moving I interviewed several companies. My mini doxie was fine with everyone except one man, in fact he came through the screen door to try and bite him. I found out later that this one co. had several employees charged with theft.

They are our little guardian angels in fur!! ;)

yorkieusa 05-20-2010 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by megansmomma (Post 3135580)
Well I guess my question would be -didn't he know not to approach a dog like that? My suggestion would be to continue to socialize Charlie as much as possible in a reassuring manner.

Yes, I agree. He probably thought he was going to hit him.:D

Lizzie07 05-20-2010 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Roccosmommy (Post 3135577)
15 weeks and already picking up on the bad-man vibes from your ex? Good boy Charlie!...Just kidding. Seriously, his aversion to men may be because of your ex (he's relating all men to his first impression of him). I'm no expert, (but I've watched a lot of them) and what I would do is teach him that men/boys can be a good thing by having them (your dad, your daughter's teen friends, etc.) greet him with a small treat. Do not have them pet him, just greet him briefly with a treat and then let Charlie go on his way. As he gets more comfortable, have some SUPERVISED petting/play time with some males then finish that session with a treat. He will very soon get the idea that not ALL men are dogs!! :animal36 :p Good luck to you and keep us posted.

:thumbup::thumbup: Absolutely try this first, before anything else. It's positive reinforcement, the best way for a puppy or dog to learn. He will happily learn that men and boys are okay. When I start training something new, I always use high value treats. Use the super yummy treats, not the everyday treats.

yorkielady06 05-20-2010 01:08 PM

Ok I am sorry but I do have to do this....
BAHAHAHA HAHA HAHA...(pee in pants) Ha ha ha ...he he he snicker...lol
Ok now seriously, you have had some wonderful suggestions to socialize him to men. If it was just your ex...then good dog..right??:D
Sorry I just got divorced last month so I had to live in your dogs moment.

AddieandMiaMom 05-20-2010 02:30 PM

Use the positive reinforcement method of treats (what Charlie considers high value, might not be what you consider high value) and having men/boys give to him without looking/touching him until he becomes comfortable around them. These treats only come from these men/boys, never from you. If you hit him for growling at your ex, it could make the situation worse because Charlie will take the approach of your ex to mean getting hit. He could then become more agressive, and the next bite could break skin.

You might also want to ask your ex to not reach over Charlie's head to pet him, if you're able to. He shouldn't be touching/looking at him any more than the other men/boys in your life or those of your children. He should also be giving treats to Charlie, if you feel comfortable asking him to do so.

Mary4 05-21-2010 03:19 AM

There's a part of me that thinks this is hilarious. Obviously, Charlie can size up someone's character very easily. My ex is beyond a jerk. He's not a nice guy at all. (Our other dog didn't like him either.)

Other men, Charlie just ignores. He won't get too close and just seems uncomfortable. He doesn't shake or bark or growl at them.

I'll try having my dad give him some yummy treats and see how that goes. I'd like him to get along with my dad. We're going on vacation in August and I want to leave him here with my dad. I can't bear the thought of putting him in a kennel, and if I cancel the vacation, my kids will be terribly disappointed.

John Stelting 05-21-2010 05:20 AM

This isn't really funny
 
If her ex-husband wants to he can report this the animal control and the dog can be put down as an aggressive dog.

Nico29 05-21-2010 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Rhetts_mama (Post 3135564)
JMO- but I'd be saying "good dog". He's obviously picking up on something.

:thumbup::thumbup:

msanna 05-21-2010 06:59 AM

I would take him to a good obedience class. Talk to the instructor and let them know that he is starting to be nippy. See what things they recommend before you pay for a class. If you don't like them, call another.

Your little guy is probably becoming territorial over you and his home. I have found many useful tips from Welcome to Cesar Millan's Official Web Site | Cesar Millan . I would look at the info on you becoming a pack leader. You need to establish dominance so the pup will accept your rules/commands.

msanna 05-21-2010 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by John Stelting (Post 3136430)
If her ex-husband wants to he can report this the animal control and the dog can be put down as an aggressive dog.

I am not sure what your intention is. Maybe it is just me, but your post is very RUDE and uncalled for.

PandaGirl 05-21-2010 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by msanna (Post 3136506)
I am not sure what your intention is. Maybe it is just me, but your post is very RUDE and uncalled for.

:confused: Rude ? He is telling the truth. It's not a joke, it's serious. What if the next time he bites a male that is a child :eek: would that be funny also? I think you need to take action immediately so that this never happens again. Next time it might be with the wrong person he bites and you can loose your baby :(
Good Luck

msanna 05-21-2010 07:49 AM

John, since you are in Colorado I figured I would post for reference

The Meaning of a “Dangerous Dog under Colorado's Dangerous Dog Statue:

•Under Colorado’s Dangerous Dog Statute, “bodily injury” means any physical injury that results in severe bruising, muscle tears, or skin lacerations that requires professional medical treatment, or any physical injury that requires corrective or cosmetic surgery.
•Under Colorado law, “serious bodily injury” means an injury that involves a substantial risk of death, serious permanent disfigurement, loss or impairment of a bodily function or organ, or a break, fracture or second- or third-degree burn.

The statute, however, outlines the following circumstances where a dog owner will not be liable for a dog-bite injury:
•In cases where the injury occurred while the victim was a trespasser on public or private property;
In cases where the injury occurred while the victim was on the dog owner’s property and the property was clearly and conspicuously marked with one or more posted signs stating, “No trespassing,” or “Beware of Dog;”
•In cases where the dog was being used by a peace officer or military personnel for official duties;
•In cases where the victim knowingly provoked the dog;
•In cases where the victim was a veterinary health-care worker, dog groomer, humane agency staff person, professional dog handler, trainer, or dog show judge acting in the performance of his or her respective duties;

In all seriousness, I think that she came here looking for help and not someone to threaten that her puppy is going to be taken away and euthanized. Colorado's law's simply don't state what the post eluded to. In many states, she could very simply state that he made her feel threatened and he would be arrested for assault (just see TX law). There are many sides to the story. Esp if the ex is abusive and it is documented.

If you have a pup and it has never nipped or ripped up something, peed on the floor than you must have a stuffed animal :) I have have yorkies for almost 20 years and have always been able to train them despite any challenge that comes along. I feel that they are just like children. If you child steals or toddler bites you don't euthanize them. This is a very trainable pup that is just displaying some guarding / pack issues (that are obviously not ok). He just needs to know whom is in charge and that he can't nip. If you have suggestions please be part of the solution. There is no need to euthanize or put yet another animal in a shelter to be possibly destroyed.

yorkielady06 05-21-2010 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Stelting (Post 3136430)
If her ex-husband wants to he can report this the animal control and the dog can be put down as an aggressive dog.

Nope, the dog didnt break the skin. Dogs know bad people if you ask me.

yorkieusa 05-21-2010 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by yorkielady06 (Post 3136596)
Nope, the dog didnt break the skin. Dogs know bad people if you ask me.

Yes, they do. They sense it. We feel it in our "gut." Anyway, anytime Kacee doesn't want someone to pet her (or whatever) I never force the issue. I trust her instinct.:D


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