Originally Posted by vbayne (Post 3096008)

Originally Posted by ArmaniMan (Post 3096048)

Both the male and female could be hurt... it may be a natural "urge" for dogs but so is jotting in front of cars, eating chocolate, and running away from home... yet responsible owners prevent their dogs from doing these things in order to protect them.

Originally Posted by megansmomma (Post 3096228)

You said nuts :p

Originally Posted by mommadog1 (Post 3096114)

no need to start insulting. actually, i'm very educated - in fact, i'm a licensed teacher - and i'm looking into law school (but the closest is 1.5 hours away, and i have 2 kids).

as you can see from plenty of people's posts - lots of dogs continue to do the deed even after being spayed/neutered. obviously (i thought) i was joking when comparing humans to dogs EXACTLY- although the concept is the same - which is the point i was attempting to make. in other words, regardless of what you tie, cut, or castrate - desires remain. you can castrate a pedophile, but that doesn't mean he won't continue to have desires.

i said "why would dogs be different as far as desire to do it?" DESIRE being a big word.

and, i think it's anatomy - not biology - if we are getting that serious.

before you jump the gun - i like you, but i think you would have to agree your comment was insulting and i am simply responding. let's keep it civil, please.

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s (Post 3096274)

Yes, you are right.:thumbup: Which is OK, because IMO, they should have been removed.

Originally Posted by Samuel-Samy (Post 3096397)

This is funny.. I am happy people keep their great sense of humour in threads like this one (even though this thread isn't too out of control yet).

Originally Posted by DvlshAngel985 (Post 3096040)

Kaji kept following a pretty little yorkie girl that I believe was in heat. He was very much interested in going all the way. Mr Peeper was out and everything. As long as he has been with me, he has not been allowed to fulfill his desire to do the deed. (Tried twice)
I thought it was the boy who locked with the female?? They have these things that swell around the base of his peeper. Can you tell I would not be a great breeder? My terminology is childish at best! :p

Originally Posted by BaxtersMommy (Post 3096488)

So, basically a male and female dog should NEVER be left alone. For the fear of one of them being hurt by tying up? :rolleyes:

Originally Posted by BaxtersMommy (Post 3096488)

So, basically a male and female dog should NEVER be left alone. For the fear of one of them being hurt by tying up? :rolleyes:

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s (Post 3096225)

Yes, I was being quite serious. Why do you think that breeders advise all the time to never allow unsupervised ties? That it poses a threat to both the male and female? The risk is not the pregnancy--it's the injuries that could result from the tie itself.

Even neutered dogs can still tie with a female. The tie is the result of the swelling in the males bulbus glands, which are not removed during a neuter. If the female panics, or jerks and tries to get away, either of them could be injured. Many females will turn on the male in an attempt to separate from them, even "drag" the male around. (Is it really that hard to see why that would impose a huge risk for injury?) The bulbus glands could ruptured. It could easily result in broken blood vessels in the male's penis, which can lead to a condition called Priapism where the reduction of swelling after the dog is 'excited' is compromised--which can lead to some SERIOUS issues. The female could suffer from internal injuries and lesions of the uterus, possibly resulting in infection.

I believe there was a thread on here a while back where a member bred her dog and was unaware that he got a few strands of hair wrapped around during the tie...I *believe* that the dog actually ended up having to have his penis removed. (I'll have to see if I can find the thread.)

So no, I was most certainly NOT kidding when I posted that allowing this just for the fun of it was irresponsible. ASIDE from the behavioral issues that she is now experiences with her male as a probable result. So to crudely joke around about something and treat lightly a decision that could have easily harmed her male...sorry, but there is just no humor in that.

(I find it a bit disturbing that someone could make such crude comments yet I'm the one that's out of line...for expressing concern for the dog...go figure!)

Originally Posted by red98vett (Post 3096497)

I would say no - (I only have girls so never had to deal with this thankfully) though Chanel does adore her stuffed monkey lover....not to extreme but he IS her boyfriend) :p

I have to agree with Misty (bama) - from what I read this was inentional - and I would think in most cases a neutered pet would most likely not 'do the deed' but encouraging it is a different story.....

I understand how some can feel certain things would 'calm' a puppy down - but this isn't one of them IMO

Originally Posted by LuvMyPuppE (Post 3096345)

Where on earth did I insult you or call you uneducated? Just because I said I was in awe of your lack of understanding of basic biology? It is the truth or you wouldn't of come up with that silly comment.

I did not intend to "insult" you, and great about your education..I happen to have one as well but thats for another thread.

I actually like you, I have told you that before. But you take things to personally and often in a way no intended.

Desire does not remain after castration, why else would they do it to sex offenders then? And yes there has been several who have opted to have it done as condition of parole. A sex offender, wont be able to get it up and he will not have the sex drive, no hormones... Does it mean they wont think about wanting to do something, nope it wont.. but it will keep him from doing it.

And it does work, my sister in law works for dept. of corrections and says it does stop the behaviors.

Also, sex crimes are not about sex anyhow...