Totally agree. Just look at all the purebred yorkies on here and see how much they differ. Now throw in a totally different breed and it's just gonna be a crap shoot!

unfortunately, that's the truth! when i got my pup, it said on the form, "have you had a pet before? where is it now?"

truth is, i had a cat before my daughter was born 7 years ago - and when i got pregnant, i had to move into an apartment - blah blah blah. my aunt was dying to take my cat way before this because she loved her - so when i got in a tight spot, i let her have her (she still has her btw).

anyway, i put on my application NO- haven't had pets before. there are so many animals being put to death and they want to interrogate you! i can understand being concerned in the case of puppy mills or animal abusers - but really? that person was right - sometimes it's easier to lie!

oh, the funny part is that after i filled out the application, the lady said something, and my husband was like, "yeah, we had a cat..." and i nudged him! good timing right after i said we had no pets!

Wow, just wow. When we adopted Bear, we specifically stated that the reason we were glad we did not have a fenced in yard was that our purpose for acquiring him was to help in DH's rehabilitation. It would be too easy to just open a door and let him go out on his own with a fenced yard. This way, DH was forced to leash and walk him everytime he needed to go out. It is still that way. We have the four dogs and no fences. All dogs require leashing before stepping outside, other than that they are strictly indoor dogs, from 80lbs to 5 or 6lbs.

I cannot imagine depriving a dog a home because all you are offering is the run of your entire residence instead of the shelter's small cage...wow.

I agree with you, that being mean isn't helpful, but as you continue doing this type of work, many people suffer from something called "burn out". It's really common in all the helping professions, and in volunteer work. You start out with great intentions, and you know just enough to be helpful, and your heart is in the right place. In time, you learn that homes you have chosen, have not worked out, the people who seemed so great in every way, weren't, and the dog is put up for adoption again. Or even worse, the dogs died because the people you chose clearly misrepresented themselves, and were extremely negligent, and perhaps even abusive. So as time goes on, you either quit doing volunteer work, or you build up a little wall, so you won't blame yourself so much when things don't work out. You will become more skeptical of people and learn that people can lie and mislead about really important things. Rescue workers rarely make decisions based on one thing, and should always be looking for the best home for the dog. If the home isn't as good as the foster home, many rescues believe in keeping the dog in the foster home. I expect, "burn out" is why many rescue volunteers seem "mean". They are only thinking of the best interest of the dog, and not the best interest of the humans. Finding that right balance that allows you to keep doing rescue, and yet allows you to protect yourself when your decisions have been poor, is no easy task. Also, I imagine a rescue workers decision in placement of a pet shouldn't be based on how much they "like" the person, because that could color their decisions, so keeping a little distance when interviewing a potential client would be beneficial, yet could make them come off as "cold."

Nancy1999, if you are going to insist on being logical and compassionate and giving both sides of every debate, so to speak, so that people make rational decisions instead of jumping on the proverbial lighted torch and pitchfork bandwagon...I shall put you on permanent ignore...really...I will.

Lol, I'm on permanent ignore for a lot of people, but not for that reason! What a nice post! It's just a fact - I'm old!!! and I use to feel the exact same way as others now feel, but in time, I broadened my viewpoints, (and my hips :D) Oh why wasn't I wise when I was young! :D

Oh why wasn't I wise when I was young!



LOL It's a shame it takes almost a lifetime to understand life, then
when you finally do you forget it anyhow!:p

LOL! My hips don't lie! :D

I wonder if I'm on permanent ignore from anyone? LOL...but I guess one can be on permy iggy for many reasons LOL LOL LOL...
wish my hips weren't so wide LOL...Nancy haven't you heard the young are wise beyond their years?????


Donna

Yeah, I know, it is a really small window there isn't it? What were we talking about now?

Some people will tell you that they have put you on their ignore list. Others will "hint" at it, for example, they ask a question, you answer it, and they reply with, "Anyone know the answer?" as, if they haven't seen your post. I guess this is to let you know, you have been placed on ignore, as if somehow this knowledge will cut you to the heart.


I think I'd trade 10 years of my "wisdom" for 10 years of their youth! :D

Who do you keep talking to? :confused:



:D

You only wish you could ignore me! :D

You're not on my ignore. You keep me abreast of posts made by people that are on ignore....just by quoting their post

If you knew had you on ignore, would you care????? Knowing you I don't think so.:D

Nope don't care LOL!!!!

YOu know I"m on AOL and I use to go the chat rooms and some would do that all the time say they had put me on ignore or someone else and it was never done LOL...they be too nosey to put me on ignore LOL....when I say I put on ignore I do it LOL...Awwwwwww the days of the land of iggy as we use to call it LOL...

if only I had wisdom when I was young but AWWWWWWW to be young again :)

that's funny LOL

This is only my opinion of course, but I personally would never pay that for a mixed breed dog; I would adopt from the shelter first, I honestly dont even know if I would pay that for a full blooded dog..haha..I cant understand breeders who breed "mutts", I love mutts, but if I wanted one I would go to my local shelter. Just my two cents.

:confused::confused::confused: I must be in a fog today because I have no idea on how to take this. Do you mean it's a bad thing for Nancy "to insist on being logical and compassionate and giving both sides of every debate"?

:confused: Agree....very good point to a very logical post.

I took it to mean nana911 was teasing Nancy for being so rational and fair with her postings. I think it was posted in fun.

Hmmm wonder who is ignoring me beside my children :rolleyes:

good for you ! :thumbup: I hope you find a great little pet and glad you took advise about cost -

while these guys are cute - that's just plain way too much to pay for any mixed breed ....plus like people mentioned - there's already so many puppies looking for homes -

the more these people make the more encouraged they are to do it .... not to mention - the pet population is out of control and worse with all the 'designer' breeds now. That applies to yorkies as well. Too many breeding now and it seems more and more yorkies have horrible health issues and are now also being found all the time in shelters - it's just sad (for ALL dogs)

Curious
 

I'm about to pay $350.00 for a morkie puppy and it has no papers or shots, is this to much?

I would say, yes. If you want a small dog and you don't care about the breed, go to the shelter and get a puppy! It will have shots and be neutered/spayed and shouldn't cost you as much!

Unless you are getting it from a shelter I would never spend that much or buy a mix from the breeder. Reputable breeders will not breed mixes and with nonreputable breeders you risk getting a pup that has genetic issues.

I hate to disagree with you in part on this because you are my friend and smart when it comes to just about everything.

I do agree that if you want a small mixed breed puppy you should check with some shelters first and don't forget about maltese and yorkie rescue groups because they often have mixed breed puppies.

However while a morkie is not a purebred some still consider it sort of a breed and they like that mix. Yorkie mix puppies are not always available from shelters and if they are you do not get them for free, the younger and healthier they are the more expensive they are. Some small breed rescue groups will charge as much as $450.00-$500.00 for a healthy small puppy, they do this to help offset the costs of caring for the older pups that have more health issues and are harder to adopt.

Not everyone wants to go the rescue route for various reasons, when I started looking for Lola I first went the rescue route, but I could not find a younger pup within driving distance. And since I never had a purebred live past about 9 or 10 I did not want an older dog, I really wanted a puppy. I also had been turned down in the past for not having a fence.

To answer the recent poster's question, $350.00 for CA would be a good price for a morkie, but keep in mind if you do not know anything about the people selling the dog you could wind up with tons of health problems down the road. I took a chance and bought Lola a yorkie mix at 16 weeks for $450.00, I took her for a blood work panel the very next day, so far she is 4 and a half and is very healthy, but a friend of mine got a morkie puppy from her friend and it turned out to have liver shunt. So it can be a crap shoot. You really take a chance when you buy or adopt a pup it's just how much of a chance do you want to take and are you knowledgeable. I had owned 4 previous full bred yorkies so I had experience and knew what I wanted, but I also knew what I wanted to spend and that the pup had to be over 12 weeks old. Good luck and hope it turns out well for whatever you decide

$350 sounds like the price from a byb for CA prices; esp with no papers or shots. Well a morkie wouldn't have papers anyway. At least not any that mean anything. In a pet shop a morkie would easily go for $1200 unfortunately. But at the shelter, as little as under $100. Rescues usually would be about $300-400 also, but most likely not a puppy.

To me sounds like a byb, so I would have to ask you, is that the type of person you want to support?