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ytsirk27 10-16-2005 09:22 AM
Does this sound like a puppymill?
 
In the Big Nickel..my husband was reading an ad about some pups for sale. The Female yorkies were 500.00 and they had littlw male pups for 200.00..it said KENNEL REDUCTION!! The name on the ad said Cavalier breeders..i tried to type them in and came up with nothing.(must not have a website)I tried to call them but there was no answer im going to try and call them back later.. :)

mybirdys2003 10-16-2005 10:08 AM
That's interesting. But you will need to talk to them first and see what is going on, or visit them if you can. Kind of sounds like it, though.
Pat

whispersmom2 10-16-2005 12:05 PM
If an advertiser has so many dogs that they need to hold a "kennel reduction" I would be certain in my own mind, that they are either a miller or a CBer. Either way, I would proceed with caution..

ytsirk27 10-16-2005 12:13 PM
ok...i talked to the woman and she said that she has 2 older yorkies that are 200.00 a piece and i said well your ad says you have little males for sale! She than goes well yes I have 1 he wont be over 3 pounds full grown and i want 300.00 for him.....registered....which is a great deal..but than i asked her does he have the "roachback"? and she didnt even know what that was....i has to explain it to her.....thats pretty sad really...shes suppose to send me some pics in an email tomorrow..we'll see!!!!

Kristy and Mason

Sugar's Mom 10-16-2005 12:16 PM
puppymill?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ytsirk27
In the Big Nickel..my husband was reading an ad about some pups for sale. The Female yorkies were 500.00 and they had littlw male pups for 200.00..it said KENNEL REDUCTION!! The name on the ad said Cavalier breeders..i tried to type them in and came up with nothing.(must not have a website)I tried to call them but there was no answer im going to try and call them back later.. :)
kennel reduction does not necessarily mean puppy mill. We raise Beagles. My husband has been a breeder and trainer of Field Champion beagles for over thirty years. At times, we have found it necessary to "reduce" our kennel for various reasons. We are Indian Hills Kennel. There have been times we are in financial straits or illness or my hubby, who is a big old softie, has decided to keep most of a litter, then, later decided to sell. maybe they don't have the nose or foot to be a good dog. people routinely ask when they see our ads, what is wrong with them? Why are you selling them? rather than go into our personal problems, we say kennel reduction. Too many dogs at this time. that is an honest answer.

So, before you write this person off, call them up. talk to them> Ask about the kennel reduction. Most breeders will tell you if you flat out ask. We do if pressed.

mustangbee 10-16-2005 01:01 PM
I think the only way to know for sure is
to take a trip over there. I wouldn't want to make that call,
if I didn't see for myself.
It could be a very good Breeder,
a backyard Breeder, or a puppy mill. You will never be able to
answer that one if you haven't been there.
:) :) :) :) :) :) :)

YorkieShadow 10-16-2005 01:13 PM
I would go meet with them and talk to them first.

yorkiemom1970 10-16-2005 04:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sugar's Mom
kennel reduction does not necessarily mean puppy mill. We raise Beagles. My husband has been a breeder and trainer of Field Champion beagles for over thirty years. At times, we have found it necessary to "reduce" our kennel for various reasons. We are Indian Hills Kennel. There have been times we are in financial straits or illness or my hubby, who is a big old softie, has decided to keep most of a litter, then, later decided to sell. maybe they don't have the nose or foot to be a good dog. people routinely ask when they see our ads, what is wrong with them? Why are you selling them? rather than go into our personal problems, we say kennel reduction. Too many dogs at this time. that is an honest answer.

So, before you write this person off, call them up. talk to them> Ask about the kennel reduction. Most breeders will tell you if you flat out ask. We do if pressed.
:thumbup: :thumbup:
just make sure you visit and check them out. no out side housed yorkies...ect.
i know breeders of larger breeds do have outside runs. that is perfectly ok! but yorkies shouldnt ever be kept out...i'd definitely check them out though. good luck!

megan_kat22 10-16-2005 04:57 PM
hmm, i would definately want to go check it out for myself before deciding, but let us know what happens

schatzie 10-16-2005 05:02 PM
To be fair to this kennel it's hard to base an opinon w/ not having all the information or seeing them/talking, etc. :confused:

txshopper73 10-16-2005 05:21 PM
You're best way to tell is to go there and look for yourself. You don't know anything by just talking to them on the phone...they could tell you what you want to hear. Check it out with your own eyes.

twnty_yrs_later 10-20-2005 06:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ytsirk27
ok...i talked to the woman and she said that she has 2 older yorkies that are 200.00 a piece and i said well your ad says you have little males for sale! She than goes well yes I have 1 he wont be over 3 pounds full grown and i want 300.00 for him.....registered....which is a great deal..but than i asked her does he have the "roachback"? and she didnt even know what that was....i has to explain it to her.....thats pretty sad really...shes suppose to send me some pics in an email tomorrow..we'll see!!!!

what is "roachback"? im just curious b/c i've never heard that term before.
obviously i dont know anything about breeding ...lol

StewiesMom 10-20-2005 06:45 PM
IMO a "good" breeder wouldn't need to put an ad out to reduce their kennel. Wouldn't they have people lining up to take their dogs off their hands?

eshuser 10-28-2005 06:30 PM
I called them b/c I am looking for a male....they are $200 b/c they are almost 6 months old. They are also pretty big. The small one she said is around 10 pounds...and maybe not quite full grown yet. Does this help any?

YorkieShadow 10-28-2005 06:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by twnty_yrs_later
what is "roachback"? im just curious b/c i've never heard that term before.
obviously i dont know anything about breeding ...lol
Its when their back is not even. It should be straight. But some have like a hump.


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