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Cerise · 03-25-2010, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by jackson25

Welcome to YT! I viewed the pics in your album, very cute! Also glad you posted the breeder's name who sold you 2 puppies at 8 weeks old with full breeding rights!

To the OP: Welcome to YT!

maryeverett1 · 03-25-2010, 09:41 AM

Okay guys here is the very long and confusing story on why they are called designer yorkies (and I meant Paris and Napoleon not Louis

Louis is an M1 gold gene carrier! His mom was blue and gold and his dad was solid gold. Louis is Napoleon's dad...he is AKC registered.

Paris is an F1 biewer gold and white gene carrier. Her dad was a golden/white biewer who was AKC registered. Her mom was a solid gold yorkie who was CKC registered. When duchess had her puppies the AKC would not let them be registered with them because at the time they did not view biewers as full bred yorkies like they do now and also would not let the litter be registered with them because duchess was CKC registered. So they had to be registered with highbred as designer. Napoleon (who is Paris and Louis' baby boy is an F1 gold and white biewer. As you can see by this highly confusing explaination none of my dogs are "designer" or mixed breeds...they are full bred yorkies. Hope that clears up any confusion and I will be editing that in my description!

rbelland · 03-25-2010, 09:44 AM

Welcome to Yorkie talk!

I am confused, I was not aware that you could register any biewer AKC. I thought it was Parti's that could be registered with AKC. Am I wrong?

maryeverett1 · 03-25-2010, 09:53 AM

According to my breeder (the one who gave me Louis and Paris) AKC is now recognizing Biewers...that's all I know...

brendah · 03-25-2010, 10:05 AM

Hello, I just want to welcome you and your yorkies to YT!

jackson25 · 03-25-2010, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by maryeverett1

According to my breeder (the one who gave me Louis and Paris) AKC is now recognizing Biewers...that's all I know...

Well I would beg to differ! I am NOT aware the AKC recognizes Biewers.

maryeverett1 · 03-25-2010, 10:10 AM

And for the person that made the comment about it being good to know my breeder released my yorkies at 8 weeks with full breeding rights...my breeder hand and home raises every single litter of yorkies she has. She has been breeding for 17 years and does it for the love of the breed not the money. Her prices are ridiculously reasonable in comparison to what is being charged online. However she is EXTREMELY picky about her dogs and interviews extensively and has been known to turn down a lot of money if she doesn't feel that whoever is trying to buy a puppy isnt the right owner/home for the dog. She also does not sell to breeders for the most part and interviewed me extensively before releasing Louis to me. Because of the quality of care I gave Louis she was willing to release Paris to me and knew that if I intended on breeding Paris I would be the exact same type of breeder that she is! In my personal opinion Terri is the best breeder hands down because of her absolute love and devotion to the breed and her mission of making sure every single puppy finds a lifetime home! I am proud to have been priviledged enough to have gotten 2 of her gorgeous dogs and because of that have beautiful little Napoleon!!

BabyBrizzy · 03-25-2010, 10:10 AM

Found this:

Biewer Frequently Asked Questions

hope maybe it helps?

yorkie_mama22 · 03-25-2010, 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maryeverett1

Okay guys here is the very long and confusing story on why they are called designer yorkies (and I meant Paris and Napoleon not Louis

Louis is an M1 gold gene carrier! His mom was blue and gold and his dad was solid gold. Louis is Napoleon's dad...he is AKC registered.

Paris is an F1 biewer gold and white gene carrier. Her dad was a golden/white biewer who was AKC registered. Her mom was a solid gold yorkie who was CKC registered. When duchess had her puppies the AKC would not let them be registered with them because at the time they did not view biewers as full bred yorkies like they do now and also would not let the litter be registered with them because duchess was CKC registered. So they had to be registered with highbred as designer. Napoleon (who is Paris and Louis' baby boy is an F1 gold and white biewer. As you can see by this highly confusing explaination none of my dogs are "designer" or mixed breeds...they are full bred yorkies. Hope that clears up any confusion and I will be editing that in my description!

I am sure someone can answer this way better then I could I don't know much but I do know Biewers and yorkies are two different breeds? I would say since they are two different breeds Paris IS a mixed dog.

Very cute by the way ! I love them all regardless of breed, color, paper or whatever!

yorkie_mama22 · 03-25-2010, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by jackson25

Well I would beg to differ! I am NOT aware the AKC recognizes Biewers.

Me neither I was going to say that next! I thought biewers were IBM or something?

SOunds like this breeder pulled a SUPER fast one

jackson25 · 03-25-2010, 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maryeverett1

Okay guys here is the very long and confusing story on why they are called designer yorkies (and I meant Paris and Napoleon not Louis

Louis is an M1 gold gene carrier! His mom was blue and gold and his dad was solid gold. Louis is Napoleon's dad...he is AKC registered.

Paris is an F1 biewer gold and white gene carrier. Her dad was a golden/white biewer who was AKC registered. Her mom was a solid gold yorkie who was CKC registered. When duchess had her puppies the AKC would not let them be registered with them because at the time they did not view biewers as full bred yorkies like they do now and also would not let the litter be registered with them because duchess was CKC registered. So they had to be registered with highbred as designer. Napoleon (who is Paris and Louis' baby boy is an F1 gold and white biewer. As you can see by this highly confusing explaination none of my dogs are "designer" or mixed breeds...they are full bred yorkies. Hope that clears up any confusion and I will be editing that in my description!

Very confusing? M1, F1....how do you go about explaining all of this in English and what the M & F stand for? Who is Duchess? I have never heard of the registry "Highbred"?

BabyBrizzy · 03-25-2010, 10:15 AM

Goggle search returned nothing on "Highbred" as a registry...

jackson25 · 03-25-2010, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by maryeverett1

And for the person that made the comment about it being good to know my breeder released my yorkies at 8 weeks with full breeding rights...my breeder hand and home raises every single litter of yorkies she has. She has been breeding for 17 years and does it for the love of the breed not the money. Her prices are ridiculously reasonable in comparison to what is being charged online. However she is EXTREMELY picky about her dogs and interviews extensively and has been known to turn down a lot of money if she doesn't feel that whoever is trying to buy a puppy isnt the right owner/home for the dog. She also does not sell to breeders for the most part and interviewed me extensively before releasing Louis to me. Because of the quality of care I gave Louis she was willing to release Paris to me and knew that if I intended on breeding Paris I would be the exact same type of breeder that she is! In my personal opinion Terri is the best breeder hands down because of her absolute love and devotion to the breed and her mission of making sure every single puppy finds a lifetime home! I am proud to have been priviledged enough to have gotten 2 of her gorgeous dogs and because of that have beautiful little Napoleon!!

I find all of this hard to believe! She sold you puppies at 8 weeks old, PERIOD! Then gave you full rights! Not a reputable or ethical breeder in my book! One would think after 17 years of raising and breeding yorkies, one would have knowledge as to why it is important to keep puppies till at least 12 weeks! As for her price, means nothing to me!

Fantastic49 · 03-25-2010, 10:26 AM

welcome and your babies are beautiful!!!

here's something else i found on biewers: Biewer Breed Club of America Inc. BBCA

bchgirl · 03-25-2010, 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maryeverett1

Okay guys here is the very long and confusing story on why they are called designer yorkies (and I meant Paris and Napoleon not Louis

Louis is an M1 gold gene carrier! His mom was blue and gold and his dad was solid gold. Louis is Napoleon's dad...he is AKC registered.

Paris is an F1 biewer gold and white gene carrier. Her dad was a golden/white biewer who was AKC registered. Her mom was a solid gold yorkie who was CKC registered. When duchess had her puppies the AKC would not let them be registered with them because at the time they did not view biewers as full bred yorkies like they do now and also would not let the litter be registered with them because duchess was CKC registered. So they had to be registered with highbred as designer. Napoleon (who is Paris and Louis' baby boy is an F1 gold and white biewer. As you can see by this highly confusing explaination none of my dogs are "designer" or mixed breeds...they are full bred yorkies. Hope that clears up any confusion and I will be editing that in my description!

Puppies which are the result of a biewer x yorkie breeding as referred to as
F1. A breeding of a an F1 pup to a biewer would be called F2.

I am unfamiliar with the term M1.

Biewers are not recognized by AKC. Biewers are a breed which orignated in Germany and the pedigree on both sides will trace back to the original breeding pair Fu Fu and Darling Friedheck.

The gold coloring is not the result of a "gene" per se. It is the result of a gene mutation.

03-25-2010, 09:44 AM	#18
rbelland Luving my babies Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Over the rainbow Posts: 3,291	Welcome to Yorkie talk! I am confused, I was not aware that you could register any biewer AKC. I thought it was Parti's that could be registered with AKC. Am I wrong? __________________ Renee, Tayah, Dash, Bella & Paige

03-25-2010, 09:41 AM	#17
maryeverett1 BANNED! Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Virginia Beach, VA Posts: 795	Okay guys here is the very long and confusing story on why they are called designer yorkies (and I meant Paris and Napoleon not Louis Louis is an M1 gold gene carrier! His mom was blue and gold and his dad was solid gold. Louis is Napoleon's dad...he is AKC registered. Paris is an F1 biewer gold and white gene carrier. Her dad was a golden/white biewer who was AKC registered. Her mom was a solid gold yorkie who was CKC registered. When duchess had her puppies the AKC would not let them be registered with them because at the time they did not view biewers as full bred yorkies like they do now and also would not let the litter be registered with them because duchess was CKC registered. So they had to be registered with highbred as designer. Napoleon (who is Paris and Louis' baby boy is an F1 gold and white biewer. As you can see by this highly confusing explaination none of my dogs are "designer" or mixed breeds...they are full bred yorkies. Hope that clears up any confusion and I will be editing that in my description!

03-25-2010, 09:53 AM	#19
maryeverett1 BANNED! Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Virginia Beach, VA Posts: 795	According to my breeder (the one who gave me Louis and Paris) AKC is now recognizing Biewers...that's all I know...

03-25-2010, 10:05 AM	#20
brendah Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: western KS Posts: 1,320	Hello, I just want to welcome you and your yorkies to YT!

03-25-2010, 10:10 AM	#22
maryeverett1 BANNED! Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Virginia Beach, VA Posts: 795	And for the person that made the comment about it being good to know my breeder released my yorkies at 8 weeks with full breeding rights...my breeder hand and home raises every single litter of yorkies she has. She has been breeding for 17 years and does it for the love of the breed not the money. Her prices are ridiculously reasonable in comparison to what is being charged online. However she is EXTREMELY picky about her dogs and interviews extensively and has been known to turn down a lot of money if she doesn't feel that whoever is trying to buy a puppy isnt the right owner/home for the dog. She also does not sell to breeders for the most part and interviewed me extensively before releasing Louis to me. Because of the quality of care I gave Louis she was willing to release Paris to me and knew that if I intended on breeding Paris I would be the exact same type of breeder that she is! In my personal opinion Terri is the best breeder hands down because of her absolute love and devotion to the breed and her mission of making sure every single puppy finds a lifetime home! I am proud to have been priviledged enough to have gotten 2 of her gorgeous dogs and because of that have beautiful little Napoleon!!

03-25-2010, 10:10 AM	#23
BabyBrizzy BANNED! Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Taylorsville, UT USA Posts: 372	Found this: Biewer Frequently Asked Questions hope maybe it helps?

03-25-2010, 10:15 AM	#27
BabyBrizzy BANNED! Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Taylorsville, UT USA Posts: 372	Goggle search returned nothing on "Highbred" as a registry...

03-25-2010, 10:26 AM	#29
Fantastic49 No Longer a Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Beverly Hills, CA, USA Posts: 334	welcome and your babies are beautiful!!! here's something else i found on biewers: Biewer Breed Club of America Inc. BBCA