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OMG, is that a bulldog puppy w/ your german shepard? It is soooooooooo cute!! I've always wanted a bulldog!! |
1 Attachment(s) Yes it is! It is my cousins dog. That was the first time I had seen it. He was such a cutie. And very interested in my dog Mali too. She of course was as gentle as ever with him. Check out the cuteness... |
OMG!! That is so freakin cute!!!! I want it!!! :D |
Beautiful What a darling picture. They look like they are in love :) |
I've seen them before and I would never in my right mind use it on my Yorkie. They are way to little and fragile for that. I think they are great for the big massive dogs but not a little dog. Iguess it's also people own preference as well. |
I have used these on my rottweilers before but I don't know of any yorkie that would require that kind to training.( only on my rottie because he liked to chase cars on walks) |
Thanks everyone. I've been stuck on sending out a lot of "lighter," fun threads lately, and it's real nice to see YTers have my back when an important issue comes up. If I was remotely considering it before, I'm not now. I was amazed that the instructor and everyone in the class seemed to think they are the best thing ever. Of course, Eddie is the only Yorkie. My only concern is that he does pull on his collar to the point of coughing sometimes, and there are exercises in in Attention class where they deliberately want us to give the dogs some pressure on the collar. I want to make sure a buckle collar is not bad for him, too. Every instructor we've had has been dead set against a harness for obedience because they don't offer the immediate correction. What to do, what to do? YorkieMa&Pa, you crack me up. First, you were head of security, now you're Eddie's official spokesperson? Are you trying to run ME out of the club? I think I liked you better when you were a harmless stalker. :D :D |
I have two hanging in the garage now. We had them used on our Husky's before they were stolen many years ago. :( They are not cruel. The collars are not sharp and spiky, they have blunt edges and it aids in the larger dogs pulling. :thumbup: By all means, these types of collars are not for toy breed little dogs. :thumbdown I would never in my life consider using one of these on Schatzie. :aimeeyork |
[QUOTE=alaskayorkie] Every instructor we've had has been dead set against a harness for obedience because they don't offer the immediate correction. So....what do the instructors feel about the Yorkie's having trachea damage due to these collars around their neck giving them "immediate correction"??? I just don't understand why a harness would jeapordize any such training but I am by far no expert in this field. I just find it mind boggleing. :confused: |
My yorkie went through a ten week obedience program with a chain collar, and he does not have trachea damage--but he did learn to mind. Trachea damage is much more likely to happen when the collars aren't used correctly. The point of snapping the collar and releasing is that it engages a nerve and gets the dog's attention. A harness won't accomplish this. I've also seen the other type of collar used with great success on large breeds. I wish people would make judgements based on information rather than what something looks like. And remember, many of the instructors in obedience classes have had years upon years of experience--they love dogs just as much as we do. |
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I use a harness type thing on my big dogs to get them to quit pulling. They step into it and the leash attaches to the part that goes under their legs and when they pull it puts pressure on those muscles right there in their arm pit area. It has worked wonders for me with our three big dogs they stopped pulling the first time out. It does, like the prong collar, cause discomfort though. Its not going to kill the dog they just stop pulling because they don't want to feel it and I guess tugging on any collar is going to cause some sort of discomfort. I don't know if it will help you with what you are needing it for, its more for walking but I guess if you tug on it while he is sitting or what not you would get his attention. Well anyway I'll try to find a link to one like mine then I'll post it if I do and you can check it out if you like. |
I've never used the prong type collars so I'm not saying this is better I just thought that it may be something to loook into for you since it doesn't put any pressure on the neck. I think this one is like mine. It looks like it from the front and sounds like it. I just can't tell how the back is so I'm not positive. On mine the loops that go under the legs both come up in teh back and go through a loop then they have a ring attached to the end of them that you attach the leash to. This way when the dog pulls it tightens the loops under the legs(that's the important part, the tightening of the loops). http://www.dog.com/itemdy00.asp?T1=320404+2S+BLK&Cat= |
I personally have seen these in use, and it is sad. My boyfriend's borther had a Weimeraner (spelling) andhe wouldn't even act the same with it on. He lost his personality and just sat there. It actually pinched his neck, now I pesonally would not pinch my dog, so why use a collar that is going to do the same thing. This is jsut my opinion, but they seem awfully cruel to me. |
I don't post on here that often, but I agree with foxontherun613. I use a prong collar on my big dog because nothing else worked with her. 4 years of obedience training with many different trainers and she still pulled like a maniac on her leash. Finally one of my trainers suggested the prong collar and I said no way because it looked cruel. I had heard about that study that said choke chains were less humane than prongs, but still the appearance of them scared me. But, she convinced me to take one walk with it on. What did I have to lose? So, I took ONE walk with it on and the same dog who had dragged me down the street 5 minutes ago was now a perfect angel and not pulling one bit. I was amazed. I even put it on my forearm and it doesn't hurt! It's uncomfortable but it doesn't hurt. It works I would use it on big dogs but with little dogs I wouldn't. I use a harness with Rika. I disagree with StewiesMom though. There are things big dogs can handle that little dogs can not. Every dog is different and needs to be treated differently. Regardless of size no two dogs should be treated the same. |
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