YorkieTalk.com Forums - Yorkshire Terrier Community
Page 3 of 3 12 3
Show 30 post(s) from this thread on one page

YorkieTalk.com Forums - Yorkshire Terrier Community (https://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/index.php)
-   General Yorkshire Terrier Discussion (https://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/general-yorkshire-terrier-discussion/)
-   -   Vet dilema....what would you do? (https://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/general-yorkshire-terrier-discussion/193823-vet-dilema-what-would-you-do.html)

Miss Behavin 01-09-2010 02:52 PM
my vet is also fantastic. He sits Indian-style down on the floor w/my pups. W/Pippi, he'll lift her up, and kiss and blow a raspberry (I think this is the word) on her belly. He's great, and seems to truly love dogs. My old dog, Casey, would begin trembling in fear as soon as we entered the office, oftentimes peeing on the floor. She also had to wear a muzzle, not b/c she 'sensed evil' (LOL), but b/c she didn't like it. Fear, oftentimes, manifests itself into aggression.
When I bring Pippi, my :aimeeyork, to the vet or groomer, she snuggles up tight and is pretty staunch in her refusal to go. She's never displayed aggression, however :). Only dismay.

I only wish Pippi sensed evil. If she had, I would have avoided a terrible relationship w/a guy who was a complete DB. I'm going to start going w/the opposite of men she likes :rolleyes:;)

Miss Behavin 01-09-2010 03:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BellaBlue82 (Post 2948051)
Well no, you asked my age because you were trying to be insulting, that's a give in. I too am here to just give my opinion, and gain knowledge about this wonderful breed. You don't need to be on here saying that my argument is "simplistic," as this just indicates, as I stated before, you are here to pick fights (at least on this thread
No, BB. I asked b/c if you were a teenager, it would have made sense. But you take that as a "give in" (whatever this means) given, perhaps :confused:). You were comparing apples to oranges, thus invalidating the entire premise of your original argument :rolleyes:. This is not an insult. It is Making Sense 101 ;):)

KimberlySRN 01-09-2010 03:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Miss Behavin (Post 2948065)
No, BB. I asked b/c if you were a teenager, it would have made sense. But you take that as a "give in" (whatever this means) given, perhaps :confused:). You were comparing apples to oranges, thus invalidating the entire premise of your original argument :rolleyes:. This is not an insult. It is Making Sense 101 ;):)
There are young posters on YT that are very mature for their age... More mature then some of the posters that are older. So I must say, age has nothing to do with it. :p

JeanieK 01-09-2010 03:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KelMchel (Post 2947797)
Wow, I never imagined I would get the responses I have on this post.....lets see, Im trying to remember some of the posts......as for the "smack" he didnt use 2 fingers, it was more like 4 fingers and he "popped" Rylie on the nose, enough for Ryile to sorta cower a little? I guess you could say. As for someone saying that I would have spoken up if it had been hard, in all honesty, I guess you would have to know my personality, Im a bit shy, or as my grandfather used to say "backwards". I did not know what to say? And as we are standing there, he laughs and says, thats why they pay me the big bucks, to get barked at.....I guess Im one of the people I used to think was silly for loving their baby so much, this little boy is a part of my family and if I over reacted, oh well I guess I did, but I just felt it was a little inappropriate, I thought that spanking or smacking a dog left the wrong impression on an animal? I dont know Rylie to ever be afraid of me....so I would smack him......anyway, thanks so much for the replies :)
I do not know how big your dog is, but I'd be hard pressed with my 9 pound girl to be able to smack her nose with more than 3 fingers. As for a puppy their noses are so little 1 or 2 fingers at the most.

Did the dog "cower" afterwards, or did he just shrink back for a second and then get curious. Which would have been the expected response.

The puppy was showing disrespect to a human. That is never allowed, unless they are protecting me.

He's a professional, he saw a situastion that needed to be corrected and he corrected it. I believe to make anything more out of it is over reacting.

Just curious, did the puppy settle down afterwards?

JeanieK 01-09-2010 04:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AprilLove (Post 2947803)
Your vet was out of line. Period.
A professional would have told you (his owner) that that was unacceptable behavior and to get your dog under control. The vet could have refused to treat, examine, etc, your dog until you had him under control, or he could have asked you to leave. He did not have to hit him. Because it is your job and responsibility to teach your dog manners, not the vets.

I would get another vet. Doesn't matter whether the tap was a light tap or not, he should not have tried to discipline unless he was in fear for him self, which doesn't seem to be the case.

bottom line, it is your choice where you take your furbaby for care. But it is also your responsibility to train, socialize and raise him to be a good canine citizen :thumbup:
I disagree. I think his behavior was professional. The dog was being disrespectful to him and he handled it. This is not a child that you can explain bad behavior to. This is a dog, and the correction has to be done instantiously, or the point is lost.

I doubt very much if he injured the dog in any way.

JeanieK 01-09-2010 04:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KelMchel (Post 2947805)
I always ask myself "Kelly, are you SURE you want to post this on this forum" and again I said yes this time, surely I see now I shouldnt have....I see why so many are run off of this forum, you come here LOOKING for advice and you get torn apart. Thank you for your words of advice on Rylies behavior, first of all, I dont tolerate this behavior, it is the FIRST time ever he has done this, I believe that someone on here said perhaps it was the fact of WHERE he was and perhaps even he remembered that last time he was there, he got poked in the back with a very sharp thing that left him hurting several days....I for one believe that animals are very smart and that they can and do remember things. I want to thank those of you that felt that vet was a bit harsh.....I also want to say that this might be my last post, I dont come on this forum to have my feelings hurt, or have people say ugly things, true, your opinion is your opinion but sometimes that opinion shouldnt be spoken......
You came on here asking for opinions. And asking if you were over reacting.

You got opinions. Did you think everyone was going to agree?

When you ask for opinons and you get them, and then you argue with them, then you really did not want opinions, you wanted people to freak out over the "abuse" that your vet gave your puppy.

I don't see it as anything more than a correction. And to me it would not have been a big deal. He tapped your dog on his nose to distract him, and I am guessing it worked very well.

Sashabear0430 01-09-2010 04:22 PM
IF he tapped him with his finger then stay with him. He was just disciplining the dog for acting up.

Ringo1 01-09-2010 04:36 PM
I don't think my Vet would do this. My Westie was fairly hard to handle when he was a puppy and my vet never found this necessary.

He gives them a treat after very shot, etc and now both Ringo and Lucy are fine when they go there.

I don't think I would personally care for it either; though it wouldn't have infuriated me or anything. It might possibly make me think about trying out someone new. If you really like this vet, other than the one incident, perhaps you should discuss it with him.

Like any other business, you can always take your pet and money elsewhere if it absolutely made you uncomfortable.:)

KelMchel 01-09-2010 06:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JeanieK (Post 2948097)
I do not know how big your dog is, but I'd be hard pressed with my 9 pound girl to be able to smack her nose with more than 3 fingers. As for a puppy their noses are so little 1 or 2 fingers at the most.

Did the dog "cower" afterwards, or did he just shrink back for a second and then get curious. Which would have been the expected response.

The puppy was showing disrespect to a human. That is never allowed, unless they are protecting me.

He's a professional, he saw a situastion that needed to be corrected and he corrected it. I believe to make anything more out of it is over reacting.

Just curious, did the puppy settle down afterwards?
Rylie is 4 months but 6 1/2 pounds, so he isnt tiny...I disagree with you on the disrespect thing, he was AFRAID, I know this, I could tell. And no, he didnt bounce and back and become curious after the pop, he cowered........ but thank you for your advice :)

KelMchel 01-09-2010 06:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JeanieK (Post 2948148)
You came on here asking for opinions. And asking if you were over reacting.

You got opinions. Did you think everyone was going to agree?

When you ask for opinons and you get them, and then you argue with them, then you really did not want opinions, you wanted people to freak out over the "abuse" that your vet gave your puppy.

I don't see it as anything more than a correction. And to me it would not have been a big deal. He tapped your dog on his nose to distract him, and I am guessing it worked very well.
I beg your pardon Jeanie, I am NOT arguing with anyone, as a matter of fact, I believe it is the rest of the forum that has begun a war over my post. YES, I wanted opinions, Im 42 years old and know that NOT EVERY ONE will agree with me always. FURTHERMORE, your "abuse" CRAP, I never said.......I have seen people come on this forum and post some of the SILLIEST stuff I have ever heard of in my entire life but instead of come on here and be nasty, as I feel you are being right now with me, is uncalled for and not worth it for me, so I simply keep my mouth SHUT......but AGAIN, thanks for your opinion and advice or wait, did I read any advice from you? Ive read SO MUCH on this post Ive gotten sort of lost:eek:

KelMchel 01-09-2010 06:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JeanieK (Post 2948128)
I disagree. I think his behavior was professional. The dog was being disrespectful to him and he handled it. This is not a child that you can explain bad behavior to. This is a dog, and the correction has to be done instantiously, or the point is lost.

I doubt very much if he injured the dog in any way.
Oh wait Jeanie, I stand corrected, you did advice me....thanks :)

KelMchel 01-09-2010 06:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ringo1 (Post 2948190)
I don't think my Vet would do this. My Westie was fairly hard to handle when he was a puppy and my vet never found this necessary.

He gives them a treat after very shot, etc and now both Ringo and Lucy are fine when they go there.

I don't think I would personally care for it either; though it wouldn't have infuriated me or anything. It might possibly make me think about trying out someone new. If you really like this vet, other than the one incident, perhaps you should discuss it with him.

Like any other business, you can always take your pet and money elsewhere if it absolutely made you uncomfortable.:)

Hi Ringo, I dont feel that I was infuriated, but more shocked that he did this, I had never seen a vet "pop" one before, which is why I came here to see maybe if anyone else had also had the experience....

Jennxling 01-09-2010 06:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tessa Arnold (Post 2947559)
Find a new vet for sure, but let him know why you are changing. Some people should not be around animals.
I agree! Let them know!! That guy should not be able to smack another owners' dog...and find a new vet

KelMchel 01-09-2010 06:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Miss Behavin (Post 2948050)
my vet is also fantastic. He sits Indian-style down on the floor w/my pups. W/Pippi, he'll lift her up, and kiss and blow a raspberry (I think this is the word) on her belly. He's great, and seems to truly love dogs. My old dog, Casey, would begin trembling in fear as soon as we entered the office, oftentimes peeing on the floor. She also had to wear a muzzle, not b/c she 'sensed evil' (LOL), but b/c she didn't like it. Fear, oftentimes, manifests itself into aggression.
When I bring Pippi, my :aimeeyork, to the vet or groomer, she snuggles up tight and is pretty staunch in her refusal to go. She's never displayed aggression, however :). Only dismay.

I only wish Pippi sensed evil. If she had, I would have avoided a terrible relationship w/a guy who was a complete DB. I'm going to start going w/the opposite of men she likes :rolleyes:;)
I think your vet sounds wonderful.....so glad you have him :)

Rootbeer 01-09-2010 06:44 PM
Yes I totally agree, he should have asked you to control your dog or refuse to treat him.

chloesMama 01-09-2010 06:53 PM
My dog Sydney HATES the vet , and we have a wonderful vet who has never done anything to her to make her dislike her so much ( except give her her shots...which I am guessing , Sydney remembers very well :))

Sydney will bark and growl ( alot) but the vet handles her very well . She is firm but has never tapped/smacked her nose or given a correction like that , she holds her a certain way ( which I can't duplicate ) and lets her know she is in charge and not there to hurt her , and Syd will eventually calm down. I think some dogs are more fearful than others and since it was his first time acting like this I feel he was more scared than agressive. BUT I agree if he continues to act this way in other situations , you need to put a stop to it.

I can't say if I would leave over it , But if you feel uncomfortable than go with your gut.

KelMchel 01-09-2010 07:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by chloesMama (Post 2948522)
My dog Sydney HATES the vet , and we have a wonderful vet who has never done anything to her to make her dislike her so much ( except give her her shots...which I am guessing , Sydney remembers very well :))

Sydney will bark and growl ( alot) but the vet handles her very well . She is firm but has never tapped/smacked her nose or given a correction like that , she holds her a certain way ( which I can't duplicate ) and lets her know she is in charge and not there to hurt her , and Syd will eventually calm down. I think some dogs are more fearful than others and since it was his first time acting like this I feel he was more scared than agressive. BUT I agree if he continues to act this way in other situations , you need to put a stop to it.

I can't say if I would leave over it , But if you feel uncomfortable than go with your gut.
Thanks for your story......I think Im gonna just find another. This isnt the ONLY problem I have with this guy....hes hmmm let me choose my words carefully lol.......rough? In the way he handles them and such, not with love and compassion from what I can tell on the times Ive been in, Rylie did not go to him when the chocolate incidence happened, so I have only shots to base my opinion on. I just feel like he isnt as loving as he could be, I mean, sure not everyone loves my dog the way I do, but its just the way he acts, I guess you would have to see him to understand what I mean....I guess everyone knows Ryile is a Maltese and not a Yorkie lol...that may make a difference lol. I mean the temperament of the 2 could be different?

Wylie's Mom 01-09-2010 07:04 PM
Closing thread at original poster's request. :)


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 03:38 AM.
Page 3 of 3 12 3
Show 30 post(s) from this thread on one page

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright ©2003 - 2018 YorkieTalk.com
Privacy Policy - Terms of Use


1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360 361 362 363 364 365 366 367 368 369 370 371 372 373 374 375 376 377 378 379 380 381 382 383 384 385 386 387 388 389 390 391 392 393 394 395 396 397 398 399 400 401 402 403 404 405 406 407 408 409 410 411 412 413 414 415 416 417 418 419 420 421 422 423 424 425 426 427 428 429 430 431 432 433 434 435 436 437 438 439 440 441 442 443 444 445 446 447 448 449 450 451 452 453 454 455 456 457 458 459 460 461 462 463 464 465 466 467 468 469 470 471 472 473 474 475 476 477 478 479 480 481 482 483 484 485 486 487 488 489 490 491 492 493 494 495 496 497 498 499 500 501 502 503 504 505 506 507 508 509 510 511 512 513 514 515 516 517 518 519 520 521 522 523 524 525 526 527 528 529 530 531 532 533 534 535 536 537 538 539 540 541 542 543 544 545 546 547 548 549 550 551 552 553 554 555 556 557 558 559 560 561 562 563 564 565 566 567 568 569 570 571 572 573 574 575 576 577 578 579 580 581 582 583 584 585 586 587 588 589 590 591 592 593 594 595 596 597 598 599 600 601 602 603 604 605 606 607 608 609 610 611 612 613 614 615 616 617 618 619 620 621 622 623 624 625 626 627 628 629 630 631 632 633 634 635 636 637 638 639 640 641 642 643 644 645 646 647 648 649 650 651 652 653 654 655 656 657 658 659 660 661 662 663 664 665 666 667 668 669 670 671 672 673 674 675 676 677 678 679 680 681 682 683 684 685 686 687 688 689 690 691 692 693 694 695 696 697 698 699 700 701 702 703 704 705 706 707 708 709 710 711 712 713 714 715 716 717 718 719 720 721 722 723 724 725 726 727 728 729 730 731 732 733 734 735 736 737 738 739 740 741 742 743 744 745 746 747 748 749 750 751 752 753 754 755 756 757 758 759 760 761 762 763 764 765 766 767 768 769 770 771 772 773 774 775 776 777 778 779 780 781 782 783 784 785 786 787 788 789 790 791 792 793 794 795 796 797 798 799 800 801 802 803 804 805 806 807 808 809 810 811 812 813 814 815 816 817 818 819 820 821 822 823 824 825 826 827 828 829 830 831 832 833 834 835 836 837 838 839 840 841 842 843 844 845 846 847 848 849 850 851 852 853 854 855 856 857 858 859 860 861 862 863 864 865 866 867 868 869 870 871 872 873 874 875 876 877 878 879 880 881 882 883 884 885 886 887 888 889 890 891 892 893 894 895 896 897 898 899 900 901 902 903 904 905 906 907 908 909 910 911 912 913 914 915 916 917 918 919 920 921 922 923 924 925 926 927 928 929 930 931 932 933 934 935 936 937 938 939 940 941 942 943 944 945 946 947 948 949 950 951 952 953 954 955 956 957 958 959 960 961 962 963 964 965 966 967 968 969 970 971 972 973 974 975 976 977 978 979 980 981 982 983 984 985 986 987 988 989 990 991 992 993 994 995 996 997 998 999 1000 1001 1002 1003 1004 1005 1006 1007 1008 1009 1010 1011 1012 1013 1014 1015 1016 1017 1018 1019 1020 1021 1022 1023 1024 1025 1026 1027 1028 1029 1030 1031 1032 1033 1034 1035 1036 1037 1038 1039 1040 1041 1042 1043 1044 1045 1046 1047 1048 1049 1050 1051 1052 1053 1054 1055 1056 1057 1058 1059 1060 1061 1062 1063 1064 1065 1066 1067 1068 1069 1070 1071 1072 1073 1074 1075 1076 1077 1078 1079 1080 1081 1082 1083 1084 1085 1086 1087 1088 1089 1090 1091 1092 1093 1094 1095 1096 1097 1098 1099 1100 1101 1102 1103 1104 1105 1106 1107 1108 1109 1110 1111 1112 1113 1114 1115 1116 1117 1118 1119 1120 1121 1122 1123 1124 1125 1126 1127 1128 1129 1130 1131 1132 1133 1134 1135 1136 1137 1138 1139 1140 1141 1142 1143 1144 1145 1146 1147 1148 1149 1150 1151 1152 1153 1154 1155 1156 1157 1158 1159 1160 1161 1162 1163 1164 1165 1166 1167 1168