:eek: A vet should know to NEVER strike an animal! Your fur kid was already scared of him...how in the world did he think that hitting would help matters?! :mad: When we took one of our kitties to the vet, he was growling nonstop. He is harmless and would NEVER do anything other than make tough boy sounds. ;) Anyway, our vet laughed at him and just continued with the exam and would, from time-time, call him tough and was still laughing at his growl. Your vet was WRONG for putting his hands on your fur kid in such a way!

I would FREAK OUT! I have never tapped, smacked, hit, or bonked one of my dogs on the nose. In the past I have used *touch* to discipline my dogs (never my yorkies, I haven't had to). I used the touch correction as Caesar Millan teaches and I would tap them with a finger or two on the side of the body. I use it just to surprise them, and never to hurt them. This was always with my larger dogs (20-70lbs), and that would be a huge correction that I would only use if they were really misbehaving. If my vet were to be the first one to hit my dog, I would be extremely upset. A smack on the nose is completely inappropriate IMO, and I would be finding another vet pronto. There are other ways to correct a dog's behaviour, you'd hope that he would know that. Did your dog actually touch the vet with his teeth? Maybe in that instance I could see it, because you do need to match the intensity of the dog while correcting them, but still....what a way to make Rylie more fearful of the vet!

Please don't leave the forum. Just ignore the posts that ruffle your feathers and learn from the rest. YT is an invaluable resource. :thumbup:

I totally agree with you here, and know this to be true from experience with one of mine. If your furbaby did this and has never acted like this before, it is very possible it was related to his last visit there.
The vet was in the wrong, no doubt about it. Hope you find another that you like. A lot of good vets will suggest you just come in and visit and meet with staff and get to know them before you even decide to take your furbaby to them. Check around, you might be surprised!

And, PS - my late girl, Casey, had to muzzled for any and all sorts of professional procedures. This may also be an option for your dog. Although, I'd be more concerned w/the dog turning temprament (as yours) at such a young age...

Not in defense of any one particular person, you DID ask peoples advice. That means you are asking them whether they agree with you or not. You say right there "thank those of you that felt the vet was a bit harsh", so are you only wanting people to agree with you? It's not wrong to want that, but maybe you should state in your post that you want to hear from others who agree with you on the subject instead.

There are a lot of people on this forum that are experienced yorkie owners and really like to get their points across, in this case someone as only saying you should address the aggression issue with care and not take lightly (as in, they do not know how you feel but are suggesting to you maybe to get help with the dog. they did later say you could get a trainers help). That's not something you should take as a blow, but as someone sending you a precautionary suggestion on what you could do.

Now I will also say this. Sometimes I have made a post and didn't get the type of replies that are soft and comforting as I would have liked. But that is the reality of it. If someone sees something as a serious situation, they will give you a serious answer. Sometimes people say things in text that seems harsh but they don't mean it to be that way. You just have to understand that the context in which you read something might not always be how the person replying meant it.

With that, I leave you with this also. Sometimes people want to give advice for worst possible scenario on what could be wrong or what could happen in the long run on a situation. This sometimes is confusing because, for example, not EVERY little problem (especially for a new owner like me) has to be brought to the attention of a vet EVERY time. It's ok to call the vet a million times to ask opinions.

Now my reply to the posts.. If you are too shy to say something to someone who is hitting your dog, then there is a bigger issue than the dog having an aggressive spell. What if someones dog in the future comes up to your dog and attacks it? Will you not say anything to that dogs owner? Hypothetical situation but the relevance lies within the well being of your dog, and you being able to speak up to someone who may be hurting your dog emotionally or physically. I would have said something to the vet. It's not too late to do so. Call up that vet and say that you didn't appreciate him hitting your dog and how the dog cowered down when he did such. Maybe ask him why he did it and what he thought it would accomplish. Then move on to another vet that suits your needs.

That's what I would have done, shy or not. So you should do the same, at least you will know what the vets true intentions were. Whether other people feel the vet was wrong or not, the main thing is that YOU are comfortable with taking your dog someplace. It doesn't matter if you think you were over reacting or if other people think you were, you should not pay someone and have them treat your furbaby if you don't trust them.

Anyway I hope you don't find THIS offensive, I just want to try to help you understand where people are coming from and how you can better handle the responses here. You will not always get a response you want to hear but you can't let that run you off of here, either. People do give really good information and lots of good tid bits for lots of important things and lots of fun things, too!

Wait - let me understand this: OP came here seeking opinions. We should only express opinions that are in accordance, or say nothing at all? If OP already knew the answer, why did she create a post that sought differing opinions?

Just trying to learn the rules :) So, dissent is wrong, mean, and hurts feelings :(. Well, OP, keep laughing at vicious behavior, and see how many vetrinarians you go through, not to mention the general public :)

Not sure why you quoted me here, but to address your post, all the original post was asking for was whether or not we thought she was over-reacting to the action of her vet. She did not appear to be looking for opinions on how "viscous" (assumption here) her pups behavior was.
The rules of the forum are posted at the top in stickys :)
http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/gen...uidelines.html

was a mistake, and as for my misspelled word, 'vicious', I was typing on my iPhone. So, I'm back at my MacBook and flawless spelling. Sorry if I offended you.
As for the rules, thanks, but I saw nothing about expressing dissent. I do applaud you for playing the hallway monitor, though. Thanks! :):rolleyes::thumbup:

LOL

PS, my using the word viscous had nothing to do with you misspelling it. ;)

This is from Rule number #1 posted in YorkieTalk rules and Guidelines :)

"Please be civil and do not personally attack anyone or their opinions. If you disagree with their approach or method, feel free to reply, but do it in a civil way. Or you can choose to ignore their post altogether. YorkieTalk is not the place for rude, snide, or disrespectful remarks towards your fellow member or towards YorkieTalk itself. We also do not tolerate members that take advantage of our community"

UNLESS, I was referring to a possible android Yorkie of the future. That may usher in new uses for caustic soda & carbon bisulfide. And, needing copious amounts of high-viscosity oil for refills :thumbup::thumbup:

Where was I rude, snide, or disrespectful? I did disagree, but I felt I did so in a fashion that was both civil & respectful. And, she (OP) could have chosen not to read my posts (as well as the others that offended her :) ) It kind of goes both ways, as I see it. She asked a question, I answered. Cased closed, as I see it.
Civility is pretty subjective and that rule is wide open for interpretation :)

Seriously, I wasn't deliberately being an a@@.

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There was probably a reason that your baby was growling at him, you know they say that dogs can sense evil lol. Would you go back to a doctor that hit you? :wink:

:thumbup::thumbup: Very well said!! I would have stormed out telling all the other furparents what just happened. I'd be calling a news station tonight. In my opinion....just like BellaBlue 82 wrote, dogs, like young children innately know if someone is a good person or not. I'm terribly sorry you had to go through this and by informing the public they might choose to go elsewhere. :mad::mad:

Well I'm not sure what age has to do with anything (I'm 27 if it helps you at all), but I can see that you are on here just to start fights. And actually, my four year old pees all over the bathroom floor all of the time because he won't lift the seat and gets distracted easily... and it's called an accident! :D No one said the dog was abused, I think we can all agree (well, almost all of us) that it was just innapropriate behavior. I'm not comparing dogs to children, but the point is that in either situation, it's the owner/parent's responsibility to discipline, not anyone else. Hope you have a wonderful day though!

:confused: HUH? I just wanted you to clarify the bop he gave your baby on the nose, that is all. If you say it was for sure a smack and not a tap I believe you. I don't think people just asking you for clarification means you should get offended. If you don't want opinions that don't ask for them :confused:
Sorry if I offended you in any way.. :)

OP, if I felt uncomfortable with the actions of my vet, I would seek another vet. Ultimatly, it is what YOU feel comfortable with.
My vet always has a tech in the room with him to help correctly hold the animals on the exam table.:)

First of all..I didnt come here knowing the answers....secondly, I never imagined that my question would start this big of a problem, so for that I apologize. As for my laughing about Rylies vicious behavior, maybe VICIOUS wasnt the right word to have used......so again I apologize for that. He was yapping (barking) and appeared to be afraid IMO. I have truly learned lessons both at the vet, and on the forum, I APPRECIATE all opinions NOT just the ones that did not think I was over reacting. Im shocked at how nasty some can be in their opinions, my mom always taught me that there is a time and a place and a WAY to handle all situations, so I try to use just that. Im sorry if I offended anyone in my original post, it wasnt my intention.......:confused:

BUT there will come a time when she may need to take that dog to the vets and drop it off for surgery or whatever and she wont be there to "control" her dog. I dont think the vet was out of line, if it was just a "bop" on the nose. He was telling the dog that he was the boss and that was it.. Im going to assume after the "bop" that the dog stop his growling?? Your dog was showing signs of aggression towards another person, this isnt funny nor acceptable. The next time he shows aggression may be the time he decides to strike and hurt someone. If the vet truly "smacked" the dog then yes he was out of line, I would of said something, walked out the door and be hunting for a new vet.

you are absolutely wrong. I am here to gain information, as well as to dispense information that I have learned with my yorkie girl. If to you, this translates to I am here simply to 'start fights', so be it.
The reason I asked your age was b/c your argument was so simplistic and it did seem to me that you were, indeed, comparing dogs to children ("if your child's doctor hit them, would you go back?"). It's rainy, dark, and cold in SoFL, but other than this, my day is great, thanks :)
You have a great day, too! :):p

Gisela & Pippita :aimeeyork

Thanks :)

No, Rylie did not stop his growling and began shaking after the "bop"......now Im off to dinner with my children....and husband, wishing you all a good night :)

Well, then you need to be finding a new vet..;) Its obvious that Rylie wasnt happy being there. Have a great night..:animal36

But, in all fairness, it was the word you used, followed by 'lol, it was so funny or cute [IIRC]. So, that's all we, as posters, had to go by.
Sincere apologies if I offended you. This was not my intent. I see and hear things like what you said (about your dog's behavior being cute & funny) many times, when it is anything but. I also disagreed that your vet was out of line by tapping him on his nose. There will be times (whether at the vet, the groomer, whatever the case may be), where the pup will be alone. That is why it's so important to regulate his temperament at a young age :). That's the gist of what I was trying to say.

Best wishes & sincerest apologies for offending you :) (Seriously :animal-pa)

I don't know if this will be helpful for Rylie or not, but I always take the hands on approach with my dogs when they are at the vets. They don't need a vet tech in the room because *I* assist them. I think it puts my girls more at ease, and I feel better knowing that they won't jump or fall off the table. I always keep my hands on or around their head and shoulder area. That way they would have to get through me to get at the vet. They never try though, my girls love their vet. They even kiss her, and the vet kisses them back :)

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The vet should never have disciplined a dog unless asked by the owner or in fear for injury.
The vet should have used the situation as an opportunity to teach and instruct on examples of how to discpline bad behavior
.Dogs absolutely are the best judges of character ...find a new vet the trust has been broken.

I agree, mine has tried to bite me and not calm down and I too have tapped him on the nose (did you take this for more then what it really was?) just courious...hope you get it worked out I personally love my vet and had he done that to mine I would have said thankyou, you don't want to teach your dog that this behavour is ok.

Well no, you asked my age because you were trying to be insulting, that's a give in. I too am here to just give my opinion, and gain knowledge about this wonderful breed. You don't need to be on here saying that my argument is "simplistic," as this just indicates, as I stated before, you are here to pick fights (at least on this thread).

Anyway, OP, don't go anywhere! Just take in everyone's points whether you agree with them or not, and ultimiately do what's in your heart. ;)