Originally Posted by Rachael1983 (Post 2922859)

I don't think you should condemn pitbulls. Yes they have awful reputations. As a former owner of a pitbull I can tell you that if properly trained they are loyal and love their whole pack. My brother owns a pitbull and she loves my yorkie. I was initially afraid but she treated him like he was hers was gentle and knew not to be agressive. I have a 7 year old and worry more about Troy biting her than my brothers pitbull. Just bc Troy is not tolerant of excitement whereas my brothers pitbull is all for the play and is motherly with her too.

Originally Posted by Lee B (Post 2923005)

I had conniption fits when my daughter wanted to move back home - with her pitty. But Nitro's nearly 14 years old; he was bred back when Pits were still pets, not bred to be killers. She got him when she still had to bottle feed him; he's the sweetest, most temperate dog you could ever hope to meet. When I got the pups, he just loved on them. He snuggled with them, licked them, let them hang off his cheeks with their sharp little puppy teeth.

I may have doubts with younger pitties, but Old Bones is a good dog, and he will be greatly missed when he crosses the Bridge.

Originally Posted by Lovetodream88 (Post 2923072)

Pitts where first breed to be killers, fighters and guard dogs before they where breed to be pets.

Originally Posted by Lovetodream88 (Post 2923076)

I did not mean to attack pitbulls I was just having a bad day and that is what I took it out on sorry. Its not just pitbulls I worry about any larger dog with a small dog because even just playing on bit in the wrong place could cause death or they could even get trampled/steped on. In no way am I against big dogs I love them and so does Callie she actually prefers bigger dogs normaly maybe because she things she is one. I am an animal lover always have been but I personaly am afraid of pitbulls and rotties.

Originally Posted by westieboy (Post 2923025)

Do you even watch the show? The quick fixes are the easy dogs. When it's a big problem dog he always gives instruction for a long term plan of controlling the situation. He also has follow up visits to some of the tougher cases.

If you think he would run a yorkie for 6 hours then you don't get his methods. He wouldn't treat a yorkie the same way he would treat a pitbull.

Most people are not qualified to uses his methods. The show clearly states this in the beginning of each episode.

Originally Posted by diane boden (Post 2923083)

I've seen the yorkie in his last couple of episodes aired over here and was wandering if she was one of the puppymill rescues. Really if these rescues were so against him and his methods why would they not only be asking him to come in and help with difficult cases but also allow him to take dogs home with him. Dont forget he's mixed small and large dogs together from the start. The thing I like with Ceaser he prooves his methods work by allowing the program to show his own dogs. When have you ever seen VS with one dog that she actually owns, or any other t.v trainer for that matter. I've watched her methods from the original airing of the first show aired here in the UK and not once have I ever seen her actually with her own dogs. I alwaysjudge somebody on the evidence I see, what better advertisment for a trainer than people seeing how well their own dogs act. Sorry if I'm repeating myself.

Originally Posted by 107barney (Post 2923085)

Wikipedia = the free encyclopedia that anyone can edit.

Originally Posted by livingdustmops (Post 2923087)

Actually I am going to leave this thread as this has been argued to many times and for those of you who want to learn training by tv and you don't have books upon books about behavorial issues in dogs then you will continue to think he is great.

Originally Posted by Britster (Post 2923055)

I like Cesar because I think he has a great balance. He has NO issues allowing a human to treat a dog like a baby or a human, as long as you treat him as a dog first, then breed, then human. He doesn't think letting dogs sleep on the bed is a problem (Victoria usually treats this as a huge no-no in episodes I've seen). His dogs clearly love him and it's very noticeable on television. Dogs don't "act" on TV and fake showing him love. He views his dogs as part of his family but he gives them structure at the same time. Just like raising kids... you should be their parent first, then friend, and they need discipline. It's no different. I think people take the term "dominate" the wrong way. The definition of dominate is exercising influence or control. Simple as that.

He generally speaking works with dogs that have some major issues, whether it be guarding, aggression, fear, etc so he's not aiming to teach the typical sit-stay-down behavior. People say he's all negative but it's just not true. Every
dog is different for him and he never only uses ONE method. He never comes in and tries to dominate a dog that's terrified of everything for example. I've seen plenty of episodes where he uses food as a method to make something positive.

I, for one, have raised Jackson on a lot of Cesar's simple methods. Exercise, discipline and affection in that order. Jackson's honestly a great dog and I'm not just saying that. He hardly ever causes any trouble. He loves every dog he meets, never has growled, bit, showed his teeth, or done anything of the sorts to me or anyone because he knows better. He walks right beside me on the leash with no issues, he can walk past a dog and care less, a lot of issues I see in other dogs, he just doesn't have. He's very shy with strangers which I've been working on but if people just ignore him and follow Cesar's "no touch, no talk, no eye contact" he's absolutely fine. In general, I owe his behavior to Cesar because I started watching his show the week before I got him.

Bottom line -- I think that every single dog is going to be different and a method that works for one dog may not work for another and he knows that. Nobody is ever going to agree on how to raise a dog, or how to raise a kid, and I think the only thing we can do is agree to disagree and do the best we can. :thumbup:

I don't think anybody can deny he's a good person, cares deeply for his dogs and every dog, he seems like a wonderful father and husband, and he's helped out thousands of dogs from euthanized, he's supported rescue organizations and aimed to stop puppy mills. He's done a lot for the dogs of the world and I don't think anybody can deny him that.

Originally Posted by livingdustmops (Post 2923087)

I never judge something just by what I see and especially on TV. I don't see where anyone said rescue organizations were against him..... I said Behavorist and Humane organizations.

Actually I am going to leave this thread as this has been argued to many times and for those of you who want to learn training by tv and you don't have books upon books about behavorial issues in dogs then you will continue to think he is great.