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JeanieK 12-14-2009 09:32 AM
Good news for some breeds, Will the AKC follow suit?
 
It looks like the BBC documentary may have done some good after all. We can only hope that the AKC will folliow suit.

Healthier new bulldog will lose its Churchillian jowl - Times Online

This post is in reference to the following thread about Show dogs.

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/gen...s-exposed.html

misslissa 12-14-2009 09:50 AM
wow that sounds like it will be a good thing for the dogs but a bad thing for for the breeders and show dogs they just ended the showing career of hundreds if not thousands of dogs and probably put a lot of breeders out of buisness

livingdustmops 12-14-2009 09:52 AM
FYI - I posted a number of threads and breeds that have been helped by the documentary:

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/gen...us-guilty.html

hugz4all4 12-14-2009 09:53 AM
I was just watching this video.. Its a headliner on aol news. Its very sad and interesting at the same time. I knew that purebred dogs have changed but wow, I didnt relize it was that much. The part about the "show" german shepard and the "working" german shepard shocked me the most, how and why can the show dog have legs like that and it be ok, its just cruel. My heart was breaking for the cavalier, I was actually interested in buying one in the future, but not anymore. I think it will be awhile before I purchase a purebred anything. I will stick with my mutts, its stated in that video that there is links to cross breds being healthier than purebreds because of all the inbreeding that is being done and has been done for years... purebreds are being genetically ruined...
I know that there are a select few that actually do care about the animals they are breeding and put the time, money,love and effort that is needed to keep the standard but That video was a huge eye opener and I have very little faith in the "purebred" world anymore...

JeanieK 12-14-2009 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by livingdustmops (Post 2915422)
FYI - I posted a number of threads and breeds that have been helped by the documentary:

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/gen...us-guilty.html
Oh I'm sorry I missed that post.

hugz4all4 12-14-2009 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by livingdustmops (Post 2915422)
FYI - I posted a number of threads and breeds that have been helped by the documentary:

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/gen...us-guilty.html

Im very happy to hear that many dogs are being helped, this documentary should of been showed along time ago...

livingdustmops 12-14-2009 09:59 AM
It was, I posted it almost 2 years ago or at least 1 1/2 years. This is not new info...it just finally showed up on TV here in the states.

JeanieK 12-14-2009 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by hugz4all4 (Post 2915424)
I was just watching this video.. Its a headliner on aol news. Its very sad and interesting at the same time. I knew that purebred dogs have changed but wow, I didnt relize it was that much. The part about the "show" german shepard and the "working" german shepard shocked me the most, how and why can the show dog have legs like that and it be ok, its just cruel. My heart was breaking for the cavalier, I was actually interested in buying one in the future, but not anymore. I think it will be awhile before I purchase a purebred anything. I will stick with my mutts, its stated in that video that there is links to cross breds being healthier than purebreds because of all the inbreeding that is being done and has been done for years... purebreds are being genetically ruined...
I know that there are a select few that actually do care about the animals they are breeding and put the time, money,love and effort that is needed to keep the standard but That video was a huge eye opener and I have very little faith in the "purebred" world anymore...
The problem starts with the breed clubs that set the standards and refuse to see the problem.

But it also lies with the breeders who are breeding these dogs, knowing that they carry the genetic defect.

If the breeders stopped breeding them the breed would die off, but if the club changed the standard, the breed could continue and the damage be reversed.

It just makes one wonder that with the YTCA DQing all of the colors if the they are going to go the same direction.

Perhaps the off colors will someday become the standard out of necessity.
Parti breedeers have the option of breeding to any yorkshire terrier line, to create carriers. Our gene pool is not limited.

aqeuous18 12-14-2009 10:04 AM
Wow this is a huge reform! So many common breeds are involved. I'm not sure how this will play out, but it's very interesting. But I am happy. Bulldogs suffer so much. When they come in to the salon their faces always stink like BO and most can barely stand on our tables because they're overweight. Kudos to the UK!

JeanieK 12-14-2009 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by misslissa (Post 2915418)
wow that sounds like it will be a good thing for the dogs but a bad thing for for the breeders and show dogs they just ended the showing career of hundreds if not thousands of dogs and probably put a lot of breeders out of buisness
If the standards are changed, the breeders will just need to change which dogs they breed. It will be a big shake up for a while, but there are many gooddogs out there that were formerly considered not show dogs, that would now meet new standards.

JeanieK 12-14-2009 10:12 AM
It just made me sick that the Ridgeback breed club actually encouraged breeders to destroy those pups that did not have the ridge. :mad: How heartless.

livingdustmops 12-14-2009 10:27 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JeanieK (Post 2915437)
The problem starts with the breed clubs that set the standards and refuse to see the problem.

But it also lies with the breeders who are breeding these dogs, knowing that they carry the genetic defect.

If the breeders stopped breeding them the breed would die off, but if the club changed the standard, the breed could continue and the damage be reversed.

It just makes one wonder that with the YTCA DQing all of the colors if the they are going to go the same direction.

Perhaps the off colors will someday become the standard out of necessity.
Parti breedeers have the option of breeding to any yorkshire terrier line, to create carriers. Our gene pool is not limited.
How much studying have you done with the piebald gene or the irish spotting gene. There are some breeders that believe it could harm the dogs and we do know if to much white they will be deaf. Your Parti and the Biewers have both genes or one gene -piebald recessive so you can't throw dirt on this one until more research is done. I have not done research on the chocolate or golden but explain why you need to breed back about every 5th generation to the Yorkies or the dogs will go all white and slowly start dying.

livingdustmops 12-14-2009 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by JeanieK (Post 2915449)
It just made me sick that the Ridgeback breed club actually encouraged breeders to destroy those pups that did not have the ridge. :mad: How heartless.
This goes on with all breeds...and is still encouraged with the Parti's/Biewers showing up.

AmyChristine 12-14-2009 12:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JeanieK (Post 2915449)
It just made me sick that the Ridgeback breed club actually encouraged breeders to destroy those pups that did not have the ridge. :mad: How heartless.
me too the first 30min of the show I was sick to my stomach:( I could not even imagine choosing to destroy a healthy pup or giving support to a parent club that encourages it:(

AmyChristine 12-14-2009 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by livingdustmops (Post 2915482)
This goes on with all breeds...and is still encouraged with the Parti's/Biewers showing up.
So sad:( I wish they would just spay/neuter them and place them in a pet home.


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