I would never blame the child, its apparent the child doesnt know wrong from right. How is it his fault? Obvious the Mom has not taught the kid that hanging a dog upside by his legs is wrong.. I would be upset as well, but when I have Peanut with me WHERE EVER I am he his watched like a hawk. It is your duty to watch your dog to make sure things like that do not happen.

If you spanked my kid on his bottom I don't think you would have the capacity after that to even see straight let alone care if I forgive you :D

Thank's everyone
 

I thank everyone for their point of view.but i dont regret what i did.if the mom couldn't apoligize to me for her son doing that to my furbaby ;) i have to protect him from all harm.and my furbaby was in a safe place he shouldn't had went to my room i couldn't keep an eye on every child that was there i was attending a birthday party.i feel that parents should be responsible for their children's behavier.next party i make sure is done at chucky cheese:).thanks everyone!!!

You hit it on the head when you say "Parents should be responsible for their children's behavior" that also applies to their discipline..JMO :D

:yeahthat: Furbaby or skinbaby, I will be the only one grabbing ears....not that I would do that.:p

Yeah, but she didn't get the chance to apologize before you put your hands on her child. My guess is that this is the reason you haven't received an apology yet. It's always been my opinon that "two wrongs don't make a right". It is not the childs fault. Kids will be kids. His Mother should have had a better eye on him, and even at that...people make mistakes.

As someone who works with children, YOU were in the wrong handling this situation.

Kids will be kids. They a curious little people, and when they love- they love a lot (ever seen kids with cats' tails?) I believe that most children don't fully comprehend the way you should treat a pet- ever seen preschoolers with their own friends? Same difference. They don't understand their own strength, and most of the time they don't mean to hurt anyone/thing. They're playing! or being grabby or whatever. They get so excited they can't handle themselves! Some of them even pee their pants at 5 they're so excited... Get it? How are they supposed to understand exactly how to handle a pet when some of their peers can't even control their bladder? Do you see now, a child is a child...

First Step. CALM DOWN.

Handle the situation like an adult. If you get upset, say sorry.

Is the dog ok?
Is the child ok?

Try talking to the kid EX: "Gentle! Gentle... You can't handle dogs like that... they're very fragile and they can get hurt..." Try talking to them in words they can understand. Show them how to handle the dog, how to pet the dog etc.

Then speak to the mother "Just so you know.... this and this happened and it really scared me, and I yelled- but we worked it out."

If was your friend, and you had handled it this way? I'd still speak with you, and if you handled it the way you said you did? Start grovelling... You handled my child, and as an adult you KNOW better. A kid is a kid ! It's not "eye for an eye"

And the kid went into your room? I bet money that that kid heard a dog in there... (or, what's behind this door? No one's looking...lol) Back to my original statement, they are curious little people...

With an attitude like that? If I was a kid, I'd be mean to you on purpose. :p

What kind of education did you have to be a nanny? Was childcare your first choice? Something tells me no...

"Brats" to nannies are usually kids who don't like their nanny...

Wonderful post.

.......

Are you kidding me?

A. I was KIDDING!!!!!

B. YOU DON"T EVEN KNOW ME! How dare you make a comment like that.

C. I am and was a WONDERFUL nanny. I absolutly love children.

Those kids were bad because they never had EVER heard the word NO before I moved in with them and because their parents would take off for weeks at a time and leave their three children with a nanny. Children act out when their parents do not know how to be parents.

I can't even believe you would say something to me. It doesn't take a genius to understand that I was kidding.... clearly I don't think a child should be bitten by a dog. But I do think that parents should be watching their kids when they are over at someones house. This situation NEVER would have happened if the mother was watching her child. The dog was in a crate exactly like it should have been.

and also, YES, childcare was my first choice at the time. I absolutly adore children and was with that family for three years even though I was completely under paid and taken advantage of BECAUSE I LOVED THE KIDS. And by the time I left they were much more well behaved then when I started and they absolutly LOVED me..... children NEED to be disciplined. It shows them that they are loved and that their caregiviers actually care about them. I spent more than double the amount of time with them than their parents did and that is why they acted out. They were absolutly starved for attention.

I just am appaled that you have the nerve to speak to me like you have any idea who I am.

And again..... you probably missed the smiley face at the end of my post.... I WAS KIDDING.

I'm sorry, but abuse is abuse. i don't care if it's a small child abusing a defenseless dog, or an adult abusing a defenseless child.

It's humiliating and terrifying for either of the abused.

In as much as it's not OK for a man to slap a woman because she has insulted his "lady" it's not OK for some who is stronger/more powerful to physically abuse anyone else who is weaker.

Abusing someone because they abuse someone just perpetuates the cycle.

Abuse is abuse is abuse and it's wrong.

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Michele :-(

I didn't read all the posts, but I would just like to mention that your baby was more scared than hurt...when my Joey was about 6 months old, my mom's friend's kid picked him up and started swinging him around by his arms (like...spinning around holding him just by his arms...not around like a windmill). I of course immediately jumped up and grabbed him back and explained to little Liberty why this wasn't ok to do, but Joey wasn't hurt at all. Actually, Joey was fine within about 5 minutes, and he LOVES children and babies to this day! I think that it was probably not handled the best way by you or the mother of this child. maybe you could have explained to the child why this was wrong, and then calmly mentioned to the mother that their kid was doing that, and that you think they might benefit from being told by a parent what is and isn't appropriate to do with small, fragile animals.

Calm down.

You're right, I don't know you- but you made quite the post there and I commented it.

Sorry you are APPALLED, but next time- if childcare was your first choice? Maybe you should think before you say things like wishing the dog "bites that little brat" smiley face or no smiley face...

I have a sense that you are angry, but you are very parental-blaming this situation. (nevermind that you felt more of a parent in your nanny position, but I don't know the parents side of the situation... so I won't go into that!)

I understand that kids need discipline (proper CARE maybe is the better term!), but no one deserves to be hurt.

While parents should be watching their children, they also don't watch them 100% of the time when they are around a group of people their parents know (in a house). It's boring for a kid to stick by moms side, and I would have assumed that the kid was off with some other kid, or chatting it up with someone's else' mom or another adult. I know these things take 2 seconds to happen, but no one is perfect.

"It takes an army to raise a child". If no one saw the kid wander off, then what does that say for the people there? That no one cared to keep an eye out for her kid either... Something bad could have happened!

People make mistakes, but in no way shape or form did that kid deserve what he got.

I say shame on every single adult present.

Well you just should not be so judgemental.... enough said.

Maybe you shouldn't "joke" about wanting a child to get hurt, and claim to be a great nanny.

I would of been livid too, everyone says it was wrong well when your upset and shocked by what you seen your brain goes into a no think mode, my pet is my child and no kid should go into your room and do that period, I think if more of these posters would of been in the same situation, they might of done the same thing. Im glad your fur kid is okay

agreed :)

Are you not judging everyone in that situation? The parents, the child?

A tad hypocritical to judge then demand not to be judged.

Yes I am judging the child and the parents because this whole thread was everyone's opinion on the situation. So I gave mine.

What I have a problem with is someone judging me and my character when they don't know me. Every single person on here is judging the situation, but nobody else seemed to open up their mouth and start talking poorly of other people's opinons.

This really is riddiculous now.... all I did was stand up for a fellow YTer and make a little joke.... I even posted afterwards that is was innapropriate but that I was just letting the person who posted this know that I was on her side and that our puppies are just as valuble as children. This really is absurd... do you have nothing better to do than pick a fight with someone you don't know? Let it go already. Grow up.

I'm not trying to pick a fight. If you think this is a fight, that's your issue.

My opinion is what you said was horrific and cruel. If you think what I'm saying is nasty and bitchy, whatever. Don't particularly care. Being a nanny and wishing harm on a child makes me think of that old Bette Davis film. I don't really give a rats if you said it was innapropriate. /You still said it, and obviously have no intention of taking it back. It's kinda like saying "no offence, but...' Defeats the purpose.

I will grow up. I'm 17. I'll make mistakes, learn and grow from them. You however, are a grown adult who makes jokes about animals harming little kids.

Who's the real child here?

This is absurd!
CLEARLY I did not actually mean that I would like a child or an animal to get hurt. Are you joking me. There are so many other people on here that agreed with her, too. I made it very clear that I was kidding and I even said two seconds after posting it that it was innapropriate, but I was making a joke and supporting her.
I did not say anything horrific and cruel..... this is just insane now. I never wished harm on a child. I never wished harm on an animal.
This is just baffling to me.

FOR THE RECORD EVERYONE:
I never said anything to be rude or mean or "cruel" All I did was tell the lady that posted this thread that I felt the same way that she did and that I would have been upset, too. Then I made a little JOKE that her puppy should bite the kid next time and put a SMILEY FACE next to it to make sure that everyone new that I was kidding. So I do not take it back. I think that the child should have been supervised and I think that she had done the right thing by having her dog in a crate upstairs. If a child went upstairs and took my puppy out if his crate and swung him around by his neck I would be pretty freaking upset too.
My little joke has now made some people think that I wish harm on children and animals..... which is absolutly absurd. I love animals and I adore children.... I care for children in my free time and get paid next to nothing to do it simply because I don't have kids and I love them, so CLEARLY I am not a child hater.
This truly is riddiculous and I am jsut so offended that these things are being said.

1. You would have taken a child by the ear?

2. You don't have children, but being a live in nanny means you know what's right? and you don't have any other formal training except babysitting ...

3. A woman is rude not to reprimand a child who has been abused by her so-called friend?

4. Calling a child a little devil, for just being a child, is right?

5. Joking that you wish a dog would bite a child, is funny?

Listen, I don't want to fight anymore either, but if you don't want to be judged- could you please reread what your posted! Your attitude portrayed! It spoke volumes to me.

That's why I said that if I was a kid, I would have been been mean to you on purpose. I'm not afraid to put myself in a child's shoes and realise that maybe you don't have my best interests in mind. You want to punish, discipline and as far as I'm concerned-- come down on someone's parenting when you aren't even a parent yourself.

Have some Empathy for the child.
They are JUST A CHILD.

children make mistakes, and they make a lot of them. Let them learn by teaching, with LOVE

I stand by my opinion. Not something to joke about, and I think it's deplorable.

I have nothing left to say. You know my opinion, if you are offended or baffled that's not my issue.

I hope you make up with your friend OP :)

Then mean what you say, and say what you mean.

You love children that much? Put yourself in their shoes for one second. Then put yourself in the mother's shoes who just got handed her kid by its EAR and called a "Little Devil" by her so-called friend.

anyway, I'm sure you love those kids you work with... it's just not funny.

Everyone around here stands up for the dogs, well I'm standing up for the kid.

I'm not the only one who joked. k? Thanks. Get off my case.

Everyone around here stands up for the dogs, well I'm standing up for the kid.

Go Derby! :D

I only pointed your post out because you stated you worked with children.

As someone who publicly states that they work with children, you should be careful what you say because if you don't, it doesn't give off the right vibe-- and it makes us question your ability in the field.

But anyway, like I said-- I'm sure you're really great with those kids, but just be aware of what you say about them. They're little people, and they have feelings too. They are often misunderstood, and they need lots of love and guidance to know what's right and wrong.

Since we both work in the field, we should always have the best interest of the child in mind- at ALL TIMES. Empathy goes a long way...

Here's to making mistakes, and learning from them!
I'm sure I've made many myself ... I'm not perfect either.

Peace.

The sad thing is, I don't think the boy learned a thing from this whole ordeal, except maybe that he's thought of as a "little devil", and it's ok to put your hands on people when they make you angry. I think it would have been far more productive to take this situation and turn it into a good learning experience for the child. That's what I would have done anyways....I guess that's why my kids are so well behaved and know how to handle Yorkies safely :)