tails docked?
 

ive just been reading a post on here on how they have had their puppys tails docked and iam appauled that anyone would want to do such a thing to a puppy. i live in england and its banned except for working dogs such as police dogs and emergency rescue dogs and so it should be its cruel if i was to go to a breeder i would not accept a yorkie that had been docked :mad:

does everyone here dock their puppys tails???

It is very common in the states. I got both of mine from a rescue and didn't have a choice. Mine are both docked. I love the look of a yorkie with it's tail and wish that more breeders here would stop docking them too. Our country could learn a lot about how animals should be treated from your's! ((((Hugs))))

i just dont see the point of cutting the tails off and the fact that the puppys are still awake thats why i think its cruelty i love bellas tail and when ive been out and open the door to her she wags it so much its so cute better than a stump :(

and i love watchin her chase her tail and i know she loves it s well.

I agree with you, but I wouldn't keep the fact that mine didn't have their tails keep me from adopting them. Barley was in a shelter and about to be put to sleep. I would have loved for them to have their tails too, but I love them none the less for not having it. Just wasn't something that was my choice.

if they were shelter dogs then yes i would still rehome them but from a breeder i wouldnt i would go else where poor dogs over here they will only get put down for medical reasons :(

I so wish that was the same over here!!! There are way too many animals put to sleep. People here treat pets like yesterday's newspaper. It's such a sad thing. That's why I chose rescue. It saves a life. If I was into showing dogs that'd be different, but I'm not...I'm just into spoiling my babies :D

over here you would be very lucky to find a yorkie in a rescue centre in some dogs homes i have even been told have sold pedigree dogs personaly rather than sell them in the dogs home iykwim so choosing a dogs homes isnt a place you would go for a yorkie so i think the usa is lucky for that x

The tails are still docked in the United States because that is the AKC standard for Yorkshire Terriers. If the standard is changed, then I'm sure many breeders would not dock the tails. In Europe, as in England, it is against the law to dock the tails.

does this mean withour their tails chopped they wont register a pup?

No. To be eligable for AKC registration, the Dam and Sire must be AKC registered. It has nothing to do with how well the dog matches the standard.
I enjoy the docked tails on Yorkies...It gives such a balanced appearence. Plus they're held high with that 'appearence of self importance' the standard calls for.

I deal with a lot of grief about cosmetic alterations myself because my great danes have their ears done for AKC showing. While natural ears are acceptable, sadly, they are only just that. No one seems to win with them. I hope for a movement toward the natural. My yorkie, Athena, like most yorkies in the USA, is docked. I think I've only ever seen one yorkie with a natural tail and that was on a TV show about a yorkie living in England.

there was a programme a couple of years ago on telly abouts crufts dogs (crufts is the biggest dog show over here in the uk in case people are not aware) and because people are breeding dogs a certain way the breed of the dog is changing which is ending up with health problems they shown one breed of dog that now sufferes from fits and another whos head wont fit the brain which leads to the brain becoming smothered and having to be put down and british bull dogs that cant even breath properly its so sad that dogs cant just be natural i think yorkies look so much better with tails.

AKC requires the tail to be docked to be of standard. Therefore if you want to have your puppies to adhere to AKC standards you must have the tails docked. I would love if they changed the standard to have either docked or full or to change it to just full tails.

I love Jackson's full tail and wish they wouldn't dock them. I just find it pointless. I think "nubs" are cute however! I just think it's a completely useless procedure done simply for human's vision of beauty!

I agree with you it's done only for human vision. But for safty I do belive in getting their dew claws done.

Yes, dew claws, I'm fine with because it's for a safety/health reason. Jackson still has his dewclaw and luckily, we haven't had any issues with it yet.

why do people get their dew claws done and how do they remove them never hear of this before x:confused:

hi, my little man has a dew claw on the back leg, it will have to be removed, it catches on everything, before he actually rips it off, my mates dog riped its one right off[running through fields] and ended up in vets,:D

Not to be obtuse, but I've never understood people who are okay with SOME alterations and not others. The dew claw is tantamount to a thumb. Who didn't slam their fingers in doors when they were little or get them stuck in the vcr? The potential for trouble is not great enough for removal; in fact some vets are moving away from it as something we used to do but should have put into it more thought.

i understand what u sayin but my boy has only one foot at the back, and the dew claw is what we call a floating one , that sits away out and only a piece of skin holding it, he will be getting it off when he has to go about the leg to be either took up moe or the whole limb to be removed

Correct me if I'm wrong here, but since Yorkies were bred for ratting and going to ground after vermin, weren't the tails originally docked for their protection. Same as the dew claws, which have no function, but can get torn up with digging and running in rough terrain.

yes thats right, i have 1 with tail which i love and 1 without and she is also beautiful, i think now that they are not used for that anymore, they shud not need tails off, but i do agree about dewclaws, if they cause problems, jmo :D it will probably one day be the same all over the world about docking, some countries its against the law, thats why people have such different opinions:animal-pa

i do not believe in docking but i was told by the breeder that Gatsby was born with a naturally docked tail its about 2or3 inches and his sisters tail was bent almost to the base so she had it removed the other puppy had a full tail. I have been told this was impossible, but i do not know she showed me pics of the girls bent tail but none of Gatsby. If i had the choice i would like a all natural Yorkie floppy ears and full tail and at least 7 pounds

My yorkie is a rehome so she came with a docked tail. I've seen them with a long tail and they are so pretty. My way of thinking is if they weren't meant to have a tail then they would be born without. I also have a cattle dog and you will see many of them with docked tails which just gripe my behind. AKC won't accept them with a docked tail. The worse part the cattle dog needs that tail as a propeller, to slow down while working. Animals are born with their tails for a purpose.

I've never seen a yorkie at a breeder without a docked tail. I think you would have to order one well in advance and then take whichever one they saved for you by not docking it's tail.

Yorkies ears arent "cropped" to stand. They are suppose to stand, they are born that way. Some dont stand because of whatever reason. I have a yorkie mix that has big floppy ears and nub that I just adore. I honestly prefer the tails docked and do not feel that it is mutalation as long as it's done the correct way. IT is the standard here and I dont see it changing anytime soon.

There are always alot of opinions on this. Mine is I like the look of a docked tail

I like both. Madison's tail is docked. I would love for my next one to have it's tail.:)

Tail docking has only been illigal over here for a few years so there are still many older dogs with docked tails out there. Some breeders choose to take their pups to Ireland to get it done as its still legal. I've owned yorkies for over 20 years and have had both docked and natural and will admit the docked tail does give a more balanced look. It also is more hygenic as they can get quite messy at times. Some would say well get their coats clipped, for me the yorkie coat is its crowning glory and I love to see them in a long coat. I've seen some shaved almost to the skin, not very attractive. The program you refere to was a very much one-sided and biased, aimed to make show breeders look bad, and yes there are some bad ones out there, but it was filmed to look like the boxer and cavalier camr from show breeders but it was carefully never stated that was the case, the public were just left to make that assumption. Those dogs could have easily come from Joe Bloggs down the street. It was very much a politically based program aimed at bringing yet more money to a certain animal charity, which by the way was then 'forced' to return more than £30.000 donation they'd taken quite happily from the kennel club that year. Very embarressing for them.

I never understand this at all. How is a dog having a full tail more messy?! Jackson has a full tail that I keep with a lot of hair on it and he needs the same exact clippings around his butt as yorkies with docked tails. Hygiene seems like just an excuse really. If it really affected their health and hygiene, all dogs would have docked tails but that's not the case. It's obviously not a big issue. My mindset is just that dogs are born with 'em, let's keep it that way. I totally understand some prefer the look of the docked tail but it just seems kinda selfish to have their tail chopped off cuz it looks better. I also don't think it's a cruel procedure or anything, as their so young, they won't remember it and I've never seen a dog traumitized from it LOL, so it's not that I think it's cruel. Just pointless.