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Breeder is will to sell pup....... Breeder is willing to sell pup before she is 12 weeks old??? Is this a red flag not to buy from this person? Willing to sell pup at 9 weeks seems to soon am I correct?? |
that is a matter of opinion plus i think a lot depends on the puppy is it eating good on its own? is it a tiny if so it needs to stay longer has the mom been taken away already? i like to keep mine until they are 9 to 10 wks tinies stay longer. |
I got Jackson at 9 weeks but he was larger. He's over 12lbs now but as a pup, he was already about 3.5-4lbs. |
I hold all my pups till at least 12 weeks, no matter the size, except smaller ones I do keep longer. I prefer to see how the pups are developing and what they are looking like, as well as getting them that extra booster, and having them be socialized more with their mom and siblings. They are terriers. Also less stress for them and I never have to worry about one of my pups getting hypolgycemia at their new owner's home. I just would rather be safe than sorry for the pup and the new owner. All around it just makes more sense to hold on to them for min. of 12 weeks. |
Many will sell at 9 or 10 weeks. I like to keep mine til 10 weeks. |
9 wks is ok |
According to the YTCA Code of Conduct (Yorkshire Terrier Club of America), all breeders are to keep puppies until 12 weeks of age. Any breeder I would consider buying from would have to follow that rule. Some people feel differently, though. |
I like to keep my puppies until 10 weeks. 12 for smaller ones. |
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Besides not soiling it's bed, what skills does the mother teach the pup in those extra few weeks that help it with it's human family? I have never watched a mother in action so I was wondering exactly what she does and how she does it. Also I wonder if it is easier or more painful for the pup to leave it's original pack(mom and siblings) earlier or later after more bonding has occurred. |
There is so much that is going on between the mother, siblings and the puppy. For one thing the mom is teaching them to play correctly. Also how to be patient and respectful. I watch mine closely and it is amazing. She also teaches them to love and be close. After they have played they have quite moments where they will get close and touch one another - they also use their paw and mouth to touch one another is a very sweet way. Humans cannot not do this in just the same way - it is different. Yorkies are terriers! I have seen some pups of others and it just seems like something is missing with them. It is hard to put it into words. But besides the training they get from their mom staying longer - the pups get an extra booster. I know that would be more money the breeder would have to pay out on a litter, but I think it is better. Also while they go through that they are still home and would not have to go through more stress thus reducing a chance of getting hypoglcemia. Think about it this way - the pup leaves younger, stressed out due to new environment, then they go to the vets with new owner - more stress, then they get a shot - added stress to what they already have - and some do not eat when they go to their new home - more stress. No wonder all these young pups get stressed out and get sick. As a breeder to my pups - I do not want them to ever get sick or stressed out - Reason I keep my longer added with them being terriers and best to have that longer relationship with their mom - you want them to be very well adjusted pups. So I hold on to my till at least 12 weeks. And yes - the YTCA does say to keep pups till they are a min. of 12 weeks because they feel it is best. Yes, keeping pups longer would mean more work cleaning up after them and more money with an extra vet bill for the extra booster - but it is doing what is best for the pups, in my opinion. :D |
We hold 15 weeks We hold our puppies back for at least 15 weeks so that we can give all 4 rounds of vaccinations and have a uranalysis and a comprehensive well check completed prior to puppies going home. The extra time does, as other have explained, aid in socialization; however, it also gives the breeder a heads up on any issues like PSS as symptoms generally do not appearer prior to 12 weeks.... Anyway, I also use that extra time for beginner training, ect.... IMO, anyone who allows puppies to leave in the 6 to 9 week range is just not wanting to spend the extra money on vacs and vet checks, by 6 weeks, puppies start getting really messy and are a lot of work.... at least that is what I see often in this area, although I would expect that is a common issue.... they want those puppies out as quickly as possible. |
Not soiling in their bed is just one step, mothers teach their pups. With my pups this usually happens around 4 weeks of age, when they are able to meander out of their whelping bed on their own. There is so much more that mothers teach their pups; how to enteract with each other; within the pack; what the pecking order is within the pack, acceptable behavior. If a breeder is doing their job correctly they are assessing every pup assessing the litter's temperament to better place them in a home enviornment that is best suited for the pup, ensuring that the new family will have an easy transition and both will have a long happy relationship. Breeders are also training are training pups, grooming, basic commands, interacting with them on a daily basis. As far as making it more difficult for a pup to leave the breeders home, allowing the pup extra time to mentally mature and given more socialization time a pup can better handle changes at 12 weeks or older than they can at 6, 7, 8, 9 or 10 weeks. |
Generally speaking, yes, it would be a huge red flag to me for a breeder to let one go at only 9 weeks. |
wow your gonna love me then lol i just got my new pup and she is 8 weeks this comin saturday the breeder was willin to let her go at 6 but i choose to pick her up at 7 weeks the first day home she barely eat so i was worried but after the first day she is gobbling her food down and is very well adjusted. i live in england and if you try looking you wont find anyone waiting till 12 or even 15 weeks they all go around 8 weeks of age. i know people would say why did you take her at such a young age but to be fair if i wouldnt of took her someone else would of. heres a link to a local paper so you can check the ages of the dogs going at iam sure you wont find one going at 12 or 15 weeks. if i was a breeder i too wouldnt let my pups go till i know 100% the are ready :animal36 www.loot.com |
Sounds to me by your question you have second thoughts. As others have stated 12 weeks is best. If this were me I would give serious consideration to choosing a different breeder. Also go with your instinct. Is this the only red flag? There are lots of breeders on YT with puppies if that would make you feel more comfortable. Let us know what you decide! |
The longer the better. |
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but most moms are still weaning at 5 to 6 wks, i have a small male singleton 6wks and mom is done with him so now i will care for him until i feel that he would be safe in a good home with someone that would take the time that is needed to care for him. good luck with your precious baby |
i got gatsby at 7wks 6days and i wish i had found a breeder who was holding it was terrible he couldn't eat hard food he had no absolutely no bladder control and he was afraid of his own shadow i couldn't potty train or crate train or even leave him alone until he was about 12 wks old i wish i had yorkie talk befour i got gatsby a lot would have been diffrent now thats hes almost a year he is very clingy he will not stay with other people and if im not home he will not sleep but he is very socialized |
Back in the 70s and 80s you could find pups available to go by the breeder at 8 weeks in the paper all the time, but again the ones that were concerned for their pups and wanted to make sure they got the best start held them much longer. So 12 weeks have been a norm for me for 27 years. I prefer to make sure they are stronger, more protected, and better socialized, as well as training started. And I want to be able to judge my pups (result of such and such breeding), I prefer to see how they are turning out to make sure it was a breeding worth it. Was it a good match? Are the pups very nice? One can not really judge if the breeding was good or not if pups leave too young. And by holding on to them longer they get an extra vet check up and the vet can tell so much more!! How is the knees, heart, lungs, etc...And the breeder can see and judge the pup better with its personalities it might have, color, earsets, bite, texture, squareness, and I could go on. Breeding is not just to produce as many puppies as you can, raise them till they start pooping a lot and making a mess. There is a lot more to breeding than that!! It is harder waiting longer before you let the pups go and cost more too, but I am not into this just to produce a pup and sell it!! I would never buy a pup until it was at least 12 weeks of age. I would want to make sure that my pup got the best start possible and that I could see better as to what kind of quality it might be by waiting. I would not want to buy from that kind of breeder that sold their pups younger than 12 weeks!! JMO - Not the best breeder in my mind. I am sure there are good breeders in your area that wait, and they probably do not advertise in the local papers. |
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YTCA has always advocated 12 weeks at a minimum. You still have breeders letting them go at 6 or 8 weeks of age. But, there are Lemon Laws in a few states that make a breeder responsible should anything go wrong with the pup. Letting them go at 6 weeks, puppies haven't even received their first shots. Breeders of larger breeds do let their pups go at a younger age, however, they are not prone to hyperglycemia. |
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How could any breeder let their pups leave before their first shots - protection from some serious illness that can kill! |
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