I am going to try to be as nice as possible and give you my opinion regarding your above post. :)

I think you need to go back to the very first post in this thread and look under the user name ~she has been :banned: after only 20 posts and 1 DAY on the forum. :rolleyes: Without consideration of that FACT you have now put yourself out onto a limb to defend her NEED to breed. :thumbdown

Please also take a look at the many WELL informed breeders that came to this thread to give their opinion, thoughts and guidance. They all have been members on this forum for YEARS and have THOUSANDS of very knowledgeable posts behind them.

Finally, I would like to suggest that you take a look at this thread and please consider all of the knowledge and information that you have at your fingertips.

It is my hope that after careful consideration of these facts that you will take a step back and reevaluate your rush to put forth your opinions in defense of the OPer. Sometimes, things are not quite what you perceived them to be and seeing how this has turned out IMO this makes an excellent example.

Whew ...talk about "going on and on with your opinion" as you said......... You say there is nothing wrong with someone breeding two genetically sound, healthy dogs....the point many were trying to make is that if you do not do the testing, the peer evaluation, how in the world are you going to KNOW they are genetically sound and healthy? One of the main reasons breeders strive to meet standards is to keep their dogs within healthy genetic parameters. Reading through your post, it does not seem like you understand the philosophy behind responsible breeding. But the difference between your posting and mine, is I still respect your right to post your opinion (whether I agree with you or not or whether you go on and on or not). ;)

need/ want -- symantics.

and to the other responder, yes I did go "on and on" didn't I? For that I am sorry --that wasn't my intention, I've found one has to be so careful with their wording, lest someone pick it apart, I was probably trying to cover it all in one breath. My opinion is still that anyone who wants to breed and asks an intelligent question should receive an intelligent response that's all. I find it odd that rather than answering the question new posters are often given a lecture of opinion with nary the answer to be found that's all. Thanks for reading my long post, I'll try for shorter in the future.

That was a little kidding and not the point of my post to you -- I am the queen of the long post and would never really tell anyone to shorten their posts!

I still disagree. I believe if someone is posting that they plan to do something another feels is morally wrong, they have a responsibility to tell them. When someone OBVIOUSLY does not know all they need to know to breed, then another that has more information has a moral obligation to help them learn -- at least point them in the right direction. I did not have all of the same information or opinions when I first came here. Thankfully, others let me know how they felt, passed on lessons they had learned, and did not stop just at answering my basic question. They CARED ENOUGH to really educate! No one is telling her she HAS to follow the advice. We all know anyone is free to do as they please. But it would not be very responsible of us to stand by without a word when someone is doing what we know in our hearts is wrong.

My 2 cents, for whatever it is worth!
 

YTers are hard on people who want to start to breed their dogs. And rightfully so. But it is hard to come on Yt and ask for help with breeding questions without being handed your head on a silver platter. I breed and I also did a lot of research before deciding to get my first girl pregnant. Even after all the research and testing, I still had many questions. (Thankfully I had a very knowledgeable breeder help me with all my concerns and questions, she was amazing and if I didn't have her I don't think I would have done 1/2 as good as a job) (She is a YTer)

The problem is people are going to breed their dogs whether they know enough or not. So I think we, as YTers need to try to answer their questions and give some sound advice and hopefully they will either have a very successful breeding or decide not to do it.

People unfortunately are breeding their dogs without a second thought, at least these newbie breeders are asking the right people (YTers) the questions.;)

You make some good points. However, I think YT is very good to people who want to become responsible breeders just starting out. If someone is asking questions before they breed, there are usually lots of experienced breeders to respond and help. If someone wants to do it right, they will find a welcome hand to guide them through the process of learning. BUT, when someone says they do not want to become a breeder, they just want to breed their dog?????? In other words, they do not want to learn to do it right, they just want to breed as they have already decided to do. But even at that, there were several very helpful posts, from suggesting holding both male and female, to phone books, to couch with cushions removed. So, if getting them in position to mate was the only question, that has probably been covered. I really wanted her to think hard about the potential of losing her girl. I was like her in one way that I thought I, or my girl anyway, was invincible -- It couldn't happen to us. Other people lost their dams, not me! I hope I did get her to consider the possibility at least. It is heartbreaking when you finally accept the possibility but only because the vet walks in and says, "We did all we could but she didn't make it."

And though it doesn't happen a lot, it does happen. I myself have never lost a bitch, I have lost puppies. And that alone is heartbreaking. It never gets easy.
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So this may not be the best thread to post on, but i'm hoping that some of you experienced breeders will come back and maybe pm me or just reply on this. One day I would like to become a Yorkie breeder. I have no idea how to go about finding dogs that would be suitable for breeding, finding a vet that would be ok with breeding, etc. I have many reasons for wanting to breed, among them being I love Yorkies, I want to participate in creating pets for families that are good quality pets. I believe that I would be able to help create pets that would be wonderful for families with or without kids. Also, there are no "reputable" breeders in my area. I have done searches before, and there aren't any breeders "registered" on websites (such as AKC.org) in my entire state. After doing another search tonight, there were no matches of any Yorkie breeder within 500 miles of where I live. I tried zipcodes for other states also, and didn't get any hits. Yorkies are wonderful dogs, and I believe that I would be able to if nothing else be a good, honest, reputable breeder in this area (area being like 5 states). I am young and could be quite mistaken, but I've begun research before any sort of breeding. I do have 2 registered males we have considered studding out at some point (healthy, registered, wonderful temperments and bloodlines), but we haven't done so, because I don't feel my research is complete. Please, experienced breeders, give me some information that could help me begin the long road to becoming a good breeder, not just a "backyard breeder".

PS - I do realize that if I do become a breeder, I will inevitably have to deal with the loss of my female(s) and/or pups. This will be a difficult thing, but I believe that with good preparation, I will be able to minimize risks to mothers and babies. Thank you all in advance!

I think the experienced breeders have to hold back alot here sometimes......

I can just see you all having to force your eyeballs back into your head :eyeballpc

I just wanted to add, that while everyone has "their" own right to breed, it just sickens me to keep hearing it over and over again....

Does anyone stop and think: Hey, there are just too many dogs being breed already, why should I add to that over population?????

Do any of you realize just how many Yorkies are out there already needing homes???? Whether they are from good breeders, bad breeders, pet store and in shelters and rescues?

PLEASE STOP ADDING TO THE PROBLEM :(

And with the state of the economy right now, it is even harder to sell them, AND the amount that are being dumped at shelters and are on the Euth list because their owners can't afford to care for them anymore is mind blowing.

A responsible breeders looks at ALL aspects of breeder, and this truly includes:
Is this really necessary :confused: :confused: :confused:

Great post! :thumbup::thumbup:

I also wish anyone thinking about breeding would think about what irresponsible breeding has done to Yorkies.

Yorkies are 36 times more likely to be born with a liver shunt than all other breeds combined!

The Orthopedic Foundation of America ranks Yorkies #4 in cases of luxating patellas.

Look at all the threads questioning whether a Yorkie is purebred or not. Most of the Yorkies I see today are a far cry from what the standard calls for.

Please leave the breeding to the experts who faithfully follow the YTCA guidelines and only breed Yorkies who are excellent representatives of the breed and have been screened for genetic illness.