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bentleys_momma 08-27-2009 04:53 PM
Slicker vs. Pin
 
I currently use a pin brush on both my Yorkie and Yorkie Maltese. but then I use a bristle brush after. Is the slicker better than the pin? What difference is there in the result?

Bentley has very thin and fine hair, but Houston has half curly half straight thick hair. What is best?

Thanks for all in advance :cool:

HERBS 08-27-2009 04:56 PM
I have heard the slicker is better for the hair leaving less breakage. I personally use a dog comb after the bath and a pin brush for drying. I brush my babies daily so I don't have any problems personally. If what you are using is not pulling and breaking the hair, it is fine. IMO

Darlene68 08-27-2009 04:58 PM
I'm confused, I thought you weren't suppose to use a slicker because there is no undercoat?

bentleys_momma 08-27-2009 05:01 PM
haha I am not sure. I'll tell you one thing, for being a hair stylist when I get to the doggie brush section I am lost lol.

Nancy1999 08-27-2009 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Darlene68 (Post 2776081)
I'm confused, I thought you weren't suppose to use a slicker because there is no undercoat?
This is what I've always read, and I saw a grooming show where the groomers used a slicker on a silky coat and the judges were furious, so not all groomers know this either, the slicker rips out the undercoat, and since Yorkies don't have an undercoat, you wouldn't want to do this. Plus the slicker is a very sharp brush and if there were no undercoat, this would be painful. A pin brush is considered the best for yorkies, and the pins should not scratch your arm if you run the brush down it.

The bristle brush is something different, and it isn't made for getting tangles out, but some people recommend it for spreading the oil that's formed on the body to the rest of the hair. People say it gives their dogs a shinier look, and this is similar to when women were told to brush their hair 100 stokes every night, you are just spreading your natural oil around.

bchgirl 08-27-2009 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Darlene68 (Post 2776081)
I'm confused, I thought you weren't suppose to use a slicker because there is no undercoat?

You are correct.

I love the chris christensen wooden bristle brush for initial comb outs...followed by a pin brush and then a greyhound comb.

kalina82 08-27-2009 05:15 PM
i have a cotton coat yorkie and a pin brush will not penetrate the entire coat. I use a CC slicker brush on her coat now. Its really soft and does not scratch her. I can run it up and down my arm and it doesn't hurt. After brushing with a slicker i run a comb all over to make sure there are no mats.

i think a pin brush is good for a silky coat but for the thicker coats its just not good enough in my opinion. As a groomer i usually just use a metal comb on all yorkies after the bath. never comb a wet coat and use a conditioning spray on dry coats to brush. I use CC Ice on Ice or The Stuff.

I have used the CC wooden pin brush before and it is really nice on the silk coats. didn't do a thing on morgan's cotton one :rolleyes:

If you want a show coat you should never use a slicker on it because it will break the hair.

Darlene68 08-27-2009 05:21 PM
I have another question, when combing through the hair and sometimes encountering knots, is it normal for a little hair to be left in the comb, or is that breakage? Thanks.

chachi 08-27-2009 05:25 PM
I use a slicker brush to help me get out matts and pin brush for every day brushing

Ladymom 08-27-2009 06:42 PM
Slicker brushes will break the hair on a single coated dog. If your Yorkie has a short, cottony coat, they are great for fluffing a coat, though. I love my CC slicker for feet.

Madan pin brushes are the best IMO.

Nancy1999 08-27-2009 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Darlene68 (Post 2776119)
I have another question, when combing through the hair and sometimes encountering knots, is it normal for a little hair to be left in the comb, or is that breakage? Thanks.
I noticed this happening, especially when Joey was a puppy. Each hair has a specific life, and falls out even though you are doing everything right. Sometimes when a hair falls, it doesn't fall to the floor it just gets tangled with other hair, and this can cause a little mat, or tangle, and evidence is seen in the comb or brush. You will also see old hair in the brush, but this doesn't mean you have broken it.

Darlene68 08-28-2009 04:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Nancy1999 (Post 2776315)
I noticed this happening, especially when Joey was a puppy. Each hair has a specific life, and falls out even though you are doing everything right. Sometimes when a hair falls, it doesn't fall to the floor it just gets tangled with other hair, and this can cause a little mat, or tangle, and evidence is seen in the comb or brush. You will also see old hair in the brush, but this doesn't mean you have broken it.
Thanks Nancy:)

LuvMySissy 08-28-2009 05:36 AM
IMO there is nothing that compares to the CC Fusion pin brush for daily brushing. My girls have very different coats - one is silky, but very tangly and the other is is coarse coat. This brush works great on both of them.

For daily brushing, I use Bio-Groom Mink Oil coat conditioner. I've used just about every product out there (including Ice on Ice and The Stuff). This is the ONLY one that leaves the coat super shiny, very silky, reduces static and makes it extremely easy to detangle. It is not oily at all and does not build up on the coat. If you haven't yet tried this, I highly recommend it. I don't think you'll ever go back to anything else once you have.......

I believe having some hair int he brush/comb is as normal as it is for humans. We all lose hairs every day.

Roxy_Mom 08-28-2009 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Nancy1999 (Post 2776315)
I noticed this happening, especially when Joey was a puppy. Each hair has a specific life, and falls out even though you are doing everything right. Sometimes when a hair falls, it doesn't fall to the floor it just gets tangled with other hair, and this can cause a little mat, or tangle, and evidence is seen in the comb or brush. You will also see old hair in the brush, but this doesn't mean you have broken it.
Thank you so much for answering this, I was wondering the same thing about Roxy....any ideas on how to tame that unmanagable puppy coat!! UGH!!

Nancy1999 08-28-2009 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Roxy_Mom (Post 2776878)
Thank you so much for answering this, I was wondering the same thing about Roxy....any ideas on how to tame that unmanagable puppy coat!! UGH!!
I bought a huge bottle of Cowboy Magic Detangler, and it was great for when Joey was a puppy. He matted under the arms, especially after wearing clothes, and I would use this before a bath and get all tangles out first, once wet a tangle can become a mat. I still have most of the bottle left; Joey's adult hair is so much easier. So time will help most!

I just noticed I said under the arms instead of under the front legs, lol, he's my little boy!


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