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Yes, I agree with the last post. I do believe in forgiveness and I do believe in second chances to prove yourself redeemed of a big huge cruelty to animals error, but I also believe that part of accepting that forgiveness is stepping up to the plate (wrong sport) and accepting the consequences of what you've done. The consequences should be that he should spend the rest of his life doing penance towards animals and the children that looked up to him. My son had a Christmas ornament of Vick and when this news came out years ago, he wanted to break it. I told him to keep it and it's funny, I went to his room about 3 weeks later and the ornament is in a little jail he made out of a basket. It also no longer goes on our tree. He has lots of other football ornaments, but Vick is missing and doing penance. Yes let's forgive him and give him a chance to make it up, but playing football is not how he gets back to goodness. |
This sickens me but I'm not shocked...bottom line for it all is greed. The only thing that he's sorry for it that he got caught!!! |
yeah i just dont get it why is it fair he can just assume a normal life again and what of the animals he tortured and that suffered they will never have a nnormal life again seeem right? not to me and to pay him millions on top of it all nope sickens me i dont get it! ! i like pit bulls! no matter what peoples opinions may be of them i even speak up about it and have argued many a person for and about them including the husband even gone so far as to take home one that was about to be euthanized at two days old and bottle fed it found it a home someone who still has her today shes a great dog!!!!!! anyways!! shame on him and the eagles booo hisss!! im not really into sports but ughhh! heres my pit baby i took home i wanted to keep her!! 1st pic when i took her home next pics about 7 weeks old last pic was ent to me about 2 days ago she was born the day befor halloween last year i think i posted her story here i cried when i gave her away!! Eva http://www.rockyou.com/show_my_galle...ceid=141964802 |
[QUOTE=red98vett;2755840] My son is big into sports and he seems to think the man is genuinly sorry for what he did. He (Vick even made some humble comment like "I can't believe I'm getting a second chance when my dogs never had one"....could be he's lying or it could be he really is sorry for what he did....he really just may not have known any better./QUOTE] I don't think it was a humble comment. It was a good bull crapper saying what he knows everyone wanted to hear. He's not sorry. He's sorry he got caught and he knows he's on a probationary period so he's saying and doing all the right things so he can be completely reinstated. And, his agents are probably feeding the words to him. I hope he does realize he did wrong but if this were even remotely true then he'd go out of his way to volunteer to work with abused dogs, rescues, shelters and he'd donate some of the loot he'll be making to educate people on cruely of animals. I don't buy any of it. And personally hope that there are some NFL players who are real animal lovers and beat the piss out of him when he gets out on the field. Elaine |
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Vick is only sorry he got caught!!! It takes a soul-less person to do something like that. |
I will try to take pics of some of the signs I have seen in peoples' yards and post them. We Eagles fans are quite frenzied right now at the thought of MV playing for the Eagles. I think people deserve another chance, but it takes a certain kind of person to condone and take part in animal fighting where the poor things DIE!! I don't think he is remorseful - he just got caught. I don't want him on my team!! :D |
There are thousands of more worthy men and I'm sure just as talented as Vick that deserve a spot on the NFL. I think it's sick that the Eagles would even consider him. :thumbdown:thumbdown:thumbdown:thumbdown |
The opposing team fans should wear pit bull masks! |
Sorry if I repeat anything that someone has already said... I got through the first page and had to comment. There aren't many things that make my blood boil but Michael Vick and Animal Cruelty are 2 of those things. My problem is that the man isn't just going back to a "job"... he is going back to a career making millions and I find that disgusting. His old team or a new team could hire him as a cleaning person to clean the locker rooms. I'm sure there are plenty of things he could do to make a normal living and I believe he should be able to keep what he earned up until that point. I also find it disgusting that he is going to be speaking to the youth about dog fighting... blah, blah, blah... I think in order to be a mentor, you have to have gone through something horrible.. like... I got into drugs and almost died then I went to jail for 30 years and I lost everything I had. That's going to make someone think twice about doing drugs. What is Vick going to say?? I got caught dog fighting and then I spent a little time in jail but I went right back to playing football and making millions. oh, that's a scary story right there. Puhlease, this man is a monster and as I said before, he isn't sorry for hurting those innocent dogs... he's sorry for getting caught. He should be the towel boy NOT the quarterback. :mad::mad::mad::mad: |
I'm glad Michael Vick's position has allowed the news of dog fighting to become so well known. I don't think most of us have any idea how big of a sport it is. Laws in this country are being made and rejected because of these dog-fighting enthusiasts. Many communities can't pass neutering laws, mandatory microchip, or stray laws because the dog-fighting lobby is so large and powerful, and they send out much propaganda regarding these bills, and others. Dog fighting enthusiasts, do not want their dogs neutered, and they do not want their dogs microchipped; if a bloody mutilated animal, is linked back to them, they will be forced to answer too many questions. Many of their dogs are found as strays for this reason, and so they are fighting laws that say a stay must be neutered after being found three times, and they have convinced good breeders, that this is wrong, and so they have joined them in fighting these laws. I think it's time people understand how powerful these "sporting dog" organizations are and become aware of any legislation that they are against. They are only trying to serve their interests, not the typical breeders. Remember a neutered dog, is not a fighting dog. I hope Vick can turn this around, and help with the situation, he has been given a real opportunity to help these dogs, and let the people know what's really going on behind closed doors. I also think it's important to teach children that athletes and other famous people should not be their role models on how to live their lives, unless the athlete or famous person is living a life that sets a good example. |
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How do you explain the torchering and killing of the animals who lost the fight? The ones who were hung from a tree? That's the part that sets me off. I might mostly agree with what you said if it were only in regards to the actual dog fighting. The torchering wasn't part of the "business"... it was for the sick "thrill" |
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They should lock up the people that think this a sport , to hang or to electrocute these innocent animals. And the people that go to see these fights on dog's and rooster's r sick and should also go to jail and get fine. Maybe if people would stop going to see these fights, we can save some of these innocent animals. and if there r breeder , breeding animal for these clowns they should go to jail and we should throw the keys away. This is all so sad !!! I will do my part in writting letter to every one on that list, and I pray, hope and wish no one ever lose a furbaby and have to wonder what happen to it. If someone finds them and keep them or some nut like these people get a hold of them. We will never know, we need to fight as one to change the law on this so call sport . bark@ulater!!!!! manina,miley:aimeeyork,max:animal36 |
I believe like many others that he is not sorry for what he did, only sorry that he got caught. My daughters and I are big Cowboys fans and hate the Eagles. I have emailed the Cowboys with a good marketing idea ( dog t-shirts that read Dallas Cowboys - No dog killers here. I can't wait to run into a Eagle fan wearing vick's jersey, I told my daughter I was going to start barking. I have read so many articles of Eagle fans saying that dogs aren't equal to humans and to get over it. My animals are my family and if anyone would harm them they would pay dearly. |
I agree that a percentage of his pay should go to organizations for crualty of animals.. I feel he should have never played football again, yes he did do his time but why should he be able to go back to his job when there are others out there that do their time but they don't get their jobs back. So he sholudn't.............. |
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I'm glad there are so many protests about him being signed...everyone should be upset that he is going to make millions again - but the awareness about dog fighting went National with his arrest.....maybe more 'rings' will get busted and it will be more than a misdemeanor when arrested for animal cruelty....... I know due to the money involved in Vicks ring is probably the only reason he did so much time, but still ...... people are paying attention. |
Michael Vick It is illegal. Too many lawmakers just turn their heads. So does law enforcement in many cases. We do need to unite, and try to fight it. Tucker's Mom |
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Michael Vick (VickOnEagles) on Twitter. Don't know if someone already posted this, but here you go! |
Hey, I went to ESPN and there are three different items written about Michael Vick. I started reading some of the comments after each article and thought that some of you minght be interested in reading or posting. Click on this shortcut. NFL Nation - ESPN |
Michael Vick We're still in a friendly debate here ok ? I don't want anything I say to sound sarcastic. I don't mean for it to. Yes dog fighting has been around through the ages. I know you're familiar with the history of England, and another European countries. They put people on a rack, and stretched them until their bodies just broke apart. They also hung people, but gutted them before they died. We know of all the beheadings that took place. Most of the time they put the rotting heads on a stake along the Thames River. They also put dogs in a pit to fight lions. However, we're supposed to have come a long way since those barbaric times. Everyone alive today knows that cruelty to any living being is wrong. Yes' the player who got druck, and killed several should have spent a lifetime in prison. Believe me, I would never excuse or take up for a drunk driver. You know before you take the wheel of a car that terrible things can happen. However, the accident took place because of the excessive use of alcohol. This DOES NOt excuse the guy, but it was not a deliberate act of cruelty. His motivation was to drink, get high, and feel good. He didn't kill those people for the enjoyment of watching them suffer. It takes a person with a severe character flaw to condone suffering of animals. I mentioned before that Tony Dungee was mentoring Vick. There's no better person to use to try to bring about good in people. I still would never let Michael Vick baby sit my Tucker Baby. Tucker's Mom |
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I can't believe I am going to say this but I think what Vick did is worse than what this 21 year kid did or what that other football player did. Why? for the same reason that lgoogall said. 99% of drunk drivers just make a horribly BAD decision but don't intend to hurt anyone (or anything). It's not like me to defend a drunk driver but when I picture someone stringing a dog up on a tree and watching it suffer and put that next to a college kid (or whoever) who drank too much and thought they could make it home without hurting anyone... to me, it's pretty easy to see who needs the most jail time. However, I agree that BOTH of these issues need to be taken more serious and the punishment needs to be more severe or people will continue to do them. |
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I hope those of you who are against this terribly cruel sport will help support local laws that try to make it harder for these sporting events to occur. Here's a thread regarding Fort Worth's attempt to pass legislation requiring permits for unneutered dogs, and microchips. Sporting dogs alliances, are very powerful, and they try to scare responsible breeders with what this legislation will mean to them. Most of the time, it won't even affect responsible breeders in the least, but it will severely impact those who have fighting dogs. They don't want these dogs linked to them in any shape of form, so microchipping is a bad idea, and of course neutering would make these dogs worthless in the fighting ring. That's another reason I'm grateful to Vick, every time I wrote about dog fighting before, people acted like there was no such thing, or it was indeed a very small sport. Here's the thread: http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/ani...ml#post2758402 |
Michael Vick You're right about Michael Vick. In his dispicable way, he brought dog fighting into the minds and consciences of most of the US. It most definitely needed to be brought into the light. Many people are unaware of how prevalent it is. Bull fighting and other such cruel events take place in other countries where it is legal. There's a whole other mindset to the meaning of "macho" in those places. I''ll admit. There are some in the US too. I'm not ready to excuse Michael Vick, but in some twisted way, good may come from all of this. My last comment also. Tucker's Mom |
Michael Vick Actually, I was just diagnosed with a torn meniscus and cyst in my right knee. That's why I've been able to be on YT so much lately. I have to stay off my feet. It will require surgery. Anyone ready to wage war against the Dolphin Killers around the world.? I know it's not about dogs. But I hate the killing of Dolphins also. I've been around them a good bit. Just went swimming with them in the Gulf of Mexico. Don't you guys hope I get my knee fixed soon so I will quit blabbing? Not that I wasn't serious about the subject. Tucker's Mom |
Take him out Michael Vick should be taken out back & put down like a dog....there is a difference between a criminal that commits crimes like robing a bank, house, car etc & this guy....He is an animal himself....A person that has this in him to do what he did does not belong on the same earth as my family & yours..... |
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