Originally Posted by LilMissy (Post 2741414)

BINGO! :thumbup:

The breeder breeds YORKSHIRE TERRIER | MALTESE | MORKIES | CHIHUAHUA | BOLOGNESE | PAPILLON | GOLDENDOODLES | and it sounds like he has a couple of litters of each breed at a time? :confused:

This is not a loving "home breeder". My strong suspicion is that they are running a puppymill, if not, it's still a large scale operation.

If the OP would quit defending this breeder, I don't think that everyone would be getting so worked up. There are many YT-ers who have bought their puppies from petstores, puppymills, and byb because they didn't know any better at the time. I know that YT has helped me to learn how to find a good breeder, and I will never support an irresponsible breeder again.

Rachel, why not just admit that you know where you are getting Sadie from isn't the best place, but you love her already and you are buying her regardless. Just be honest :) I think YT-ers just keep re-hashing this argument because you are posting nice things about a breeder that doesn't appear to be that great. It's like false advertising.

Hang in there...I know that you're probably about ready to *burst* with excitement. Make sure to post lots of pics when she comes home please!

Originally Posted by RachelandSadie (Post 2741586)

Thanks for ending in kindness, i just wanted to make one thing clear on your statement, the website for this kennel lists several types of dogs here because there are actually TWO different families that are breeding dogs using the same website. I know there are still several breeds for only two breeders to have, but you will notice that there are Linda's puppies, and also Suzanne's puppies and that there are two family numbers and emails listed. Linda and Marvin only have yorkies, a few morkies (SOMETIMES) and maltese. in the future, when they aren't having yorkie/maltese pups going, they may switch to the goldendoodles for awhile, and sometimes they have bolognese around. this isn't all the time, and they don't have that many pregnant dogs all in the house at once, the website i agree can be misleading and cause concern, but they really don't have tons of litters of many breeds of puppies just laying around everywhere. haha, they have a couple litters of one breed, then rest those parents and switch to another breed awhile...

not as bad as you make it all sound when you know a little bit more of the facts and you understand that there are two families with FOUR people who breed these dogs and use the same website.

thanks

Originally Posted by Zanders' mom (Post 2741757)

I hate to sound repetitive but the 4 hour drive would be an investment for you. You see with your own eyes the condition of the breeders setup. They can tell you the place is glorious, yet it is not. I went to a breeders home and they would not even let me see the mom & dad. I walked away. If the conditions of the facility are not up to par, then the dog is not going to be a healthy dog.
The people on YT are trying to spare you heartache and cost at the vets.

About a month ago Lexie came down with something, she was vomitting and had diarrhea... there is NO waiting until I can get off work, it is take her to the vet now, because she could get dehydrated fast since she is small. That vet visit was close to $500., bloodwork,etc.!! Luckily with meds she is fine now. The cost at the vet can be painful to the pocket.

During this time that you are waiting for your baby to get home, read, read, read all you can about illness, liver shunt, luxating patella, pancreatitis, potty training, vaccines, etc. Have a savings account for the yorkie or a credit card just for her or a pet plan.

I hope for your sake the puppy will adjust and is healthy.

Originally Posted by LilMissy (Post 2741414)

BINGO! :thumbup:

The breeder breeds YORKSHIRE TERRIER | MALTESE | MORKIES | CHIHUAHUA | BOLOGNESE | PAPILLON | GOLDENDOODLES | and it sounds like he has a couple of litters of each breed at a time? :confused:

This is not a loving "home breeder". My strong suspicion is that they are running a puppymill, if not, it's still a large scale operation.

If the OP would quit defending this breeder, I don't think that everyone would be getting so worked up. There are many YT-ers who have bought their puppies from petstores, puppymills, and byb because they didn't know any better at the time. I know that YT has helped me to learn how to find a good breeder, and I will never support an irresponsible breeder again.

Rachel, why not just admit that you know where you are getting Sadie from isn't the best place, but you love her already and you are buying her regardless. Just be honest :) I think YT-ers just keep re-hashing this argument because you are posting nice things about a breeder that doesn't appear to be that great. It's like false advertising.

Hang in there...I know that you're probably about ready to *burst* with excitement. Make sure to post lots of pics when she comes home please!

Originally Posted by vlccairo (Post 2741776)

I can tell from your post that you mean well, are not attacking Rachel, and want to spare her potential heartbreak. But as someone else has posted higher up, she has decided to take Sadie, which should be the end of it. She has done a lot of research on all the things you listed and has prepared very carefully for Sadie's arrival. She also has an aunt who has a Yorkie and can advise her.

You obviously have a good heart. Please try to support her. I'm so glad your Lexie is fine now.
Vivian

Originally Posted by QuickSilver (Post 2741375)

This breeder advertises large numbers of breeds and mixed breeds on his website. He lets them go too early. He has only a nominal health guarantee. YT members have contacted him and he appears to have a very large number of puppies for sale (different litters), and he either knows nothing about what medical care puppies require, or is counting on his buyers not to. The registry he uses is known to be a popular one with puppy mills.

The OP says that because she has spoken to this man in person, and because he is very nice in person, he must be breeding healthy dogs in humane conditions. No word about genetic testing for LP, liver shunt, or visiting the home.

Everyone posted this information as kindly and clearly as they could, and the OP decided that anyone who wasn't in enthusiastic agreement with the decision to buy a puppy from this operation was hateful and attacking. The OP knows she lives in a state known for the huge number of puppy mills and has decided it's not worth the time to be careful. This is how puppy mills and the like stay in business -- a lot of us didn't know better when we got our pups, but this person doesn't care.

To the OP again -- most of us here do not have show quality dogs. We support breeders who only breed yorkies, who make sure their yorkies are not carriers for genetic diseases, and probably only have a few puppies a year. $1,000 is a lot of money, but you are not buying a car, you are buying a lifetime companion. If you were as casual as you say you are about just getting a puppy from a neighbor's dog, you would go to a yorkie rescue. Or just go to the pound.

I promised myself I would not respond anymore, but I want it to be clear why not everyone is beside themselves with joy that the OP is getting her pup (7 weeks old now?).

Originally Posted by QuickSilver (Post 2741376)

To the OP: I don't understand why you are being so careful about all aspects of starting out this pup's life (supplies on hand, planning on puppy school), EXCEPT for where the puppy comes from. It makes no sense. Also, while you keep saying $1K, I very much doubt yorkies are that expensive where you live. They are more like $700, and cheaper if you are willing to get one that is six months old.

Originally Posted by itzzbarb (Post 2741363)

Oh for pete's sake, why not stop this all ready? I am not reading this thread any more. All it is is arguing and trying to "one-up" the other. A YT member is getting a new puppy, live with it or take your arguing to a PM. :mad::thumbdown

Originally Posted by itzzbarb (Post 2741363)

Oh for pete's sake, why not stop this all ready? I am not reading this thread any more. All it is is arguing and trying to "one-up" the other. A YT member is getting a new puppy, live with it or take your arguing to a PM. :mad::thumbdown