YorkieTalk.com Forums - Yorkshire Terrier Community

YorkieTalk.com Forums - Yorkshire Terrier Community (https://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/index.php)
-   General Yorkshire Terrier Discussion (https://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/general-yorkshire-terrier-discussion/)
-   -   Another stupid owner (https://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/general-yorkshire-terrier-discussion/178635-another-stupid-owner.html)

MizMaRLeysMoM86 07-15-2009 06:56 PM

Another stupid owner
 
So as I went home today on lunch to check in on my furbutts I saw one of the most irresponsible things a pet owner could do. There, on the second floor of my building was a dog on the balcony sticking his little head off the side barking at passer-bys. The dog was a pug. He was small enough to where if he wanted to, he could wiggle through the little space his head was protruding from!! The owner was yelling at him to stop barking, I could hear from inside the apartment. The weather here right now is really hot and humid. What in the hell is this woman thinking? Even if he was on a leash he could wiggle through and hang himself!! I live on the 2nd floor as well and my DH and I don't even let Marley or the new lil guy on the balcony with us! This lady is the same lady that offered to watch Marley while we were at work because her little 1 1/2 year old boy likes dogs! Yeah right lady in your dreams!! Sometimes I get soo angry with dumb people. It's hot, humid and your dog could hang himself. Do you not see the red flags?? Some say ingnorance is bliss. I sayits fatal!

JeanieK 07-15-2009 07:02 PM

Puppys develop a sense of height at about 4 months. I have a second story deck that my dogs could jump off from, but they don't. I do not allow my puppies out on it, but do not worry about the older dogs.

There is a better chance of them getting hurt jumping off from your sofa than ther is of them jumping off from a balcony.

MizMaRLeysMoM86 07-15-2009 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeanieK (Post 2714236)
Puppys develop a sense of height at about 4 months. I have a second story deck that my dogs could jump off from, but they don't. I do not allow my puppies out on it, but do not worry about the older dogs.

There is a better chance of them getting hurt jumping off from your sofa than ther is of them jumping off from a balcony.

This was a puppy!! And I don't care how old a dog is, IMO to leave a dog on a second floor balcony while it is mostly unsupervised is a dumb move. Accidents happen and that is one that is preventable. I'd much rather my puppy jump off my couch then my second story balcony!

JeanieK 07-15-2009 07:17 PM

The point is, they won't jump off the balcony, they will jump off the sofa. And puppies also don't tend to bark at people, that is the behavior of an adult dog.

MizMaRLeysMoM86 07-15-2009 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeanieK (Post 2714253)
The point is, they won't jump off the balcony, they will jump off the sofa. And puppies also don't tend to bark at people, that is the behavior of an adult dog.

I'm by no means trying to be rude, but if puppies don't bark at people then why does my 11 week old bark at people ( I had some visitors from upstairs in my building that wanted to see him) he also barks at me when I come to his cage to let him out. And my point that I was trying to make is you never know what could happen. I have seen so many accidents that could have been prevented but things were innocently overlooked. Who is to say that the dog would not jump? You don't know, I don't know. It is better to safe than sorry. I am sure alot of people would agree.

Mardelin 07-15-2009 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeanieK (Post 2714253)
The point is, they won't jump off the balcony, they will jump off the sofa. And puppies also don't tend to bark at people, that is the behavior of an adult dog.

Incorrect, my friends year old Besenji jumped off their 2nd floor balcony and broke both it's front legs. Why take a chance.

Dogs don't have a sense of what is there and what isn't. Proof in point; puppies will walk off the side of a pool deck. Each and every one of my dogs have done at least once. After that one time, they never do it again. But, all it takes is that one time. And I've had older dogs that have done it, if they've never been around a pool.

roxies_mom 07-15-2009 07:24 PM

I'm not so sure if they'd jump or not. If they see something worth going after they might just leap. We were at my brother's last fall visiting and he has one of those cat walks that overlooks the downstairs living room from upstairs. It's high due to the ceiling being vaulted. Roxie ran towards it barking because she could hear that her daddy came in. I of course was able to stop her because I was nervous about that thing anyway. She could have slipped right through those rails no problem. Maybe I'm just overly nervous but it's not worth the risk to me.

Mardelin 07-15-2009 07:27 PM

To the OP, if it's ok with the owner of apts/condos, have you thought of putting plexi-glass around the balcony fence.

MizMaRLeysMoM86 07-15-2009 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 2714270)
To the OP, if it's ok with the owner of apts/condos, have you thought of putting plexi-glass around the balcony fence.

I have thought about putting something up before but not since we bought a grill/smoker and keep it out there. The only time we are on the balcony is when we are cooking and that isn't safe ( she could get burned ) so we just keep our furbutts off the balcony :)

Mardelin 07-15-2009 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MizMaRLeysMoM86 (Post 2714276)
I have thought about putting something up before but not since we bought a grill/smoker and keep it out there. The only time we are on the balcony is when we are cooking and that isn't safe ( she could get burned ) so we just keep our furbutts off the balcony :)

Just a thought, since more and more balconys are being built with plexi-glass

QuickSilver 07-15-2009 09:28 PM

That's interesting. Thor usually won't even jump off my bed, or out of the car. He ran up some steps tonight and when I called him, he looked over the side because that was the most direct way back to me. It was maybe three feet down, with a dirt surface. He couldn't bring himself to jump; he ran back down the stairs. It was very cute.

smartpuppiepets 07-15-2009 09:29 PM

Our Penelope was already over a year old when she jumped and broke her leg....
I guess they can Jump....
I would never allow them on a balcony "annoying" passer by's anyways :D

mscat 07-15-2009 10:57 PM

Humm , I live upstairs on the second floor .We have a balcony> My 16 month old yorkie is outside with me always on the balcony , never with any problems. She also never goes up or down the stairs, she's scared to . Even when she has seen me on the bottom floor, she does not ever want to jump or go down the stairs . I do not leash her either. I guess some would say i am a Bad owner, or just maybe my yorkie is trained not to do so, she is a good dog. I however, would never, and do not allow my 11 week old puppy out on the balcony. Suzi is well trained not to go anywhere, and always supervised.

LilMissy 07-15-2009 11:04 PM

If my dogs head could fit through the railings on the deck, I would not allow it on the deck without being secured in some way. They do, will, and can jump from high places. My brothers doberman jumped off a balcony from a few floors up. Accidents happen! They could be startled, see something that gets their attention, or even slip or lose their footing. I know that I wouldn't take the chance.

adorame 07-15-2009 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mscat (Post 2714449)
Humm , I live upstairs on the second floor .We have a balcony> My 16 month old yorkie is outside with me always on the balcony , never with any problems. She also never goes up or down the stairs, she's scared to . Even when she has seen me on the bottom floor, she does not ever want to jump or go down the stairs . I do not leash her either. I guess some would say i am a Bad owner, or just maybe my yorkie is trained not to do so, she is a good dog. I however, would never, and do not allow my 11 week old puppy out on the balcony. Suzi is well trained not to go anywhere, and always supervised.

I guess the BIG difference in your case would be that you are at least outside with your dog while the OP said this dogs owner was not. It's a big difference when you are supervising them:)

Lia 07-15-2009 11:19 PM

I also have a balcony right off my living room and I let my 10lb Lucky out there because instead of railing it has a type of criss cross fence all around it. I also let Bella out there just as long as the curtains have been pulled back and I can see her. I know there is no way she can fall because there aren't any oppenings that her little head could fit through. Plus, my balcony faces the canyons and I live in southern cali, so the weather is never too hot out here.
Still, I get that you can never be too careful.:thumbup:

MizMaRLeysMoM86 07-16-2009 01:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mscat (Post 2714449)
Humm , I live upstairs on the second floor .We have a balcony> My 16 month old yorkie is outside with me always on the balcony , never with any problems. She also never goes up or down the stairs, she's scared to . Even when she has seen me on the bottom floor, she does not ever want to jump or go down the stairs . I do not leash her either. I guess some would say i am a Bad owner, or just maybe my yorkie is trained not to do so, she is a good dog. I however, would never, and do not allow my 11 week old puppy out on the balcony. Suzi is well trained not to go anywhere, and always supervised.

No you aren't a bad owner! You are supervising her! These people just left this dog on the balcony by itself. They were inside not even concerned with this dog except when he was barking!

MizMaRLeysMoM86 07-16-2009 01:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adorame (Post 2714451)
I guess the BIG difference in your case would be that you are at least outside with your dog while the OP said this dogs owner was not. It's a big difference when you are supervising them:)

There is a big difference when there are holes where the dog can easily slip or wiggle through too!! Your right though, when you are supervising I don't see a problem!

Shelby&Seymour 07-16-2009 02:36 AM

I have heard of people using a small web chicken wire. Just staple on the inside of the rails. It is not very expensive, so maybe if you buy some, you could tell your neighbor that you have "extra" and maybe she would be interested in using it for a "safer" balcony for her dog, too. (I know, I know...she is probably an idiot... but we have to think of the DOG in this case)

cheryl19 07-16-2009 03:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shelby&Seymour (Post 2714487)
I have heard of people using a small web chicken wire. Just staple on the inside of the rails. It is not very expensive, so maybe if you buy some, you could tell your neighbor that you have "extra" and maybe she would be interested in using it for a "safer" balcony for her dog, too. (I know, I know...she is probably an idiot... but we have to think of the DOG in this case)

Good idea!!!:thumbup::thumbup:

Roxy_Mom 07-16-2009 04:41 AM

I would never let Roxy out on a balcony like that. She already thinks she is a lion (or eagle) and a jump like that would kill her. I cant say the same thing for the owner of the pug, but as for me....NO WAY!

BaileyGates 07-16-2009 05:24 AM

Bailey has never been on a balcony before. He jumps off the arm of the couch on to the floor loads tho (which i know aint the same haha) My bed is high and he will jump off that too thinking nothing of it. I get so worried i wont even let him in my bedroom now (that and the fact he humps my toys) I tell him not to get on the couch arms but he still does when i aint lookin, when i say down he just jumps onto the floor. i'm worried one day he will hurt himself. If i did have a balcony i wud get wire up coz i know Bailey, he wud love to jump off it eeek! I cant even open my windows i have to put them on a catch coz he jumps on to the couch and barks at people and i am worried he wud jump out. I think if ur dog will stick its head between balcony bars or through a window, it wont be long b4 he would jump. I hope this little pug doesnt jump before u can give the owner some friendly advice. Good luck <3

smartpuppiepets 07-23-2009 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shelby&seymour (Post 2714487)
i have heard of people using a small web chicken wire. Just staple on the inside of the rails. It is not very expensive, so maybe if you buy some, you could tell your neighbor that you have "extra" and maybe she would be interested in using it for a "safer" balcony for her dog, too. (i know, i know...she is probably an idiot... But we have to think of the dog in this case)

:d:d:d:d:d:d:d

Marilize 07-24-2009 07:53 AM

I have a cute story about our balcony. We live on the fourth floor, but there is no way they could jump off the balcony as it was built with brick and is quite high.

The doggies couldn't see anything beyond the balcony from their height and Cash didn't like going out there at first. One day, I just clicked that he couldn't see the view and I picked him up and let him sit with me.

Hehe, now every time I sit on the balcony, I have to have both of them on my lap so they can enjoy the view!

KimberlySRN 07-24-2009 08:51 AM

I would never chance it. If my pups could fit through then the only time they would be allowed out is on a leash with me. There have been too many innocent dogs who have been physically harmed from something we can prevent. When I was younger our neighbor had a great Dane, one day he went running up to the balcony and just didn't stop... He died and he had lived at that house since he was a pup. I know there were at least two yorkies on YT that have lost there lives in the same manner. Remember our dogs think they are lions... They may be okay for a while maybe even years but it only takes one time and they are seriously injured or lost forever... that isnot a chance I would be willing to take.

cslat1 07-24-2009 10:06 AM

Asking for trouble
 
It seems to me it's like playing Russian Roulette with your dog by allowing it on a balcony where it can put his head [to get stuck and strangled] and body inbetween slates. How much would it take to just put up some screening material or fencing up if you have to leave the dog out there. I personally would never do it. Especially in the hot sun. That's just cruel to the dog and also inconsiderte to the neighbors.

Cutie_Emmy 07-24-2009 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeanieK (Post 2714253)
The point is, they won't jump off the balcony, they will jump off the sofa. And puppies also don't tend to bark at people, that is the behavior of an adult dog.

I beg to differ. Thinking this way is terribly unsafe. Not too long ago a YT member posted in the RIP section about how their yorkie jumped off a balcony and died. Never ever take a chance with your dog and heights.

Mardelin 07-24-2009 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cutie_Emmy (Post 2724232)
I beg to differ. Thinking this way is terribly unsafe. Not too long ago a YT member posted in the RIP section about how their yorkie jumped off a balcony and died. Never ever take a chance with your dog and heights.

You are absolutely correct. What people tend to forget is they are canines first. Yorkies even worse they are inquisitive terriers. Puppies do jump and bark.
I don't care how well they are trained, when something or someone catches their eye their instincts take over.

ARCHIE 07-24-2009 10:42 AM

My neighbor also allows his three out on the seconed floor balcony
and yes, their little heads fit throw the openings and so will their
bodies:eek: It's a mother and two daughter's. The girls have long tails
and they are the most loving Yorkies I have ever met. Very small. It scares
the daylights out of me because when they see Buddy they all
start jumping and putting their heads throw the opening. I walk fast
and make him not look up for fear they will jump to get to him.
They love each other so much.
I have mentioned it once but I guess he didn't listen. He is a wonderful father
to these girls but I have no idea what goes threw their heads.
I think they think they won't jump. But they are so wrong.

RachelandSadie 07-24-2009 01:28 PM

Not to mention the heat and he's alone out there!
 
The thing that concerns everyone here is the balcony, but in response to the original post, i'm most concerned that

1. the dog is a toy breed and left unsupervised anywhere without the owner right beside him

2. the heat, doggies that size can't be left in the heat like that, he'll get too hot and die from that if the jumping part doesn't get him first


I hope you can talk to the neighbors in a kind manner and tell them that you are worried about their puppy being left along in the heat. The idea about offering chicken wire to use is probably the kindest way i've seen on here yet.

But yea you should mention something to them. My dog won't have a balcony or deck, but my aunt's has a high up deck, but that pup is NEVER outside alone.

Hope that helps


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 10:03 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright ©2003 - 2018 YorkieTalk.com
Privacy Policy - Terms of Use


1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360 361 362 363 364 365 366 367 368 369 370 371 372 373 374 375 376 377 378 379 380 381 382 383 384 385 386 387 388 389 390 391 392 393 394 395 396 397 398 399 400 401 402 403 404 405 406 407 408 409 410 411 412 413 414 415 416 417 418 419 420 421 422 423 424 425 426 427 428 429 430 431 432 433 434 435 436 437 438 439 440 441 442 443 444 445 446 447 448 449 450 451 452 453 454 455 456 457 458 459 460 461 462 463 464 465 466 467 468 469 470 471 472 473 474 475 476 477 478 479 480 481 482 483 484 485 486 487 488 489 490 491 492 493 494 495 496 497 498 499 500 501 502 503 504 505 506 507 508 509 510 511 512 513 514 515 516 517 518 519 520 521 522 523 524 525 526 527 528 529 530 531 532 533 534 535 536 537 538 539 540 541 542 543 544 545 546 547 548 549 550 551 552 553 554 555 556 557 558 559 560 561 562 563 564 565 566 567 568 569 570 571 572 573 574 575 576 577 578 579 580 581 582 583 584 585 586 587 588 589 590 591 592 593 594 595 596 597 598 599 600 601 602 603 604 605 606 607 608 609 610 611 612 613 614 615 616 617 618 619 620 621 622 623 624 625 626 627 628 629 630 631 632 633 634 635 636 637 638 639 640 641 642 643 644 645 646 647 648 649 650 651 652 653 654 655 656 657 658 659 660 661 662 663 664 665 666 667 668 669 670 671 672 673 674 675 676 677 678 679 680 681 682 683 684 685 686 687 688 689 690 691 692 693 694 695 696 697 698 699 700 701 702 703 704 705 706 707 708 709 710 711 712 713 714 715 716 717 718 719 720 721 722 723 724 725 726 727 728 729 730 731 732 733 734 735 736 737 738 739 740 741 742 743 744 745 746 747 748 749 750 751 752 753 754 755 756 757 758 759 760 761 762 763 764 765 766 767 768 769 770 771 772 773 774 775 776 777 778 779 780 781 782 783 784 785 786 787 788 789 790 791 792 793 794 795 796 797 798 799 800 801 802 803 804 805 806 807 808 809 810 811 812 813 814 815 816 817 818 819 820 821 822 823 824 825 826 827 828 829 830 831 832 833 834 835 836 837 838 839 840 841 842 843 844 845 846 847 848 849 850 851 852 853 854 855 856 857 858 859 860 861 862 863 864 865 866 867 868 869 870 871 872 873 874 875 876 877 878 879 880 881 882 883 884 885 886 887 888 889 890 891 892 893 894 895 896 897 898 899 900 901 902 903 904 905 906 907 908 909 910 911 912 913 914 915 916 917 918 919 920 921 922 923 924 925 926 927 928 929 930 931 932 933 934 935 936 937 938 939 940 941 942 943 944 945 946 947 948 949 950 951 952 953 954 955 956 957 958 959 960 961 962 963 964 965 966 967 968 969 970 971 972 973 974 975 976 977 978 979 980 981 982 983 984 985 986 987 988 989 990 991 992 993 994 995 996 997 998 999 1000 1001 1002 1003 1004 1005 1006 1007 1008 1009 1010 1011 1012 1013 1014 1015 1016 1017 1018 1019 1020 1021 1022 1023 1024 1025 1026 1027 1028 1029 1030 1031 1032 1033 1034 1035 1036 1037 1038 1039 1040 1041 1042 1043 1044 1045 1046 1047 1048 1049 1050 1051 1052 1053 1054 1055 1056 1057 1058 1059 1060 1061 1062 1063 1064 1065 1066 1067 1068 1069 1070 1071 1072 1073 1074 1075 1076 1077 1078 1079 1080 1081 1082 1083 1084 1085 1086 1087 1088 1089 1090 1091 1092 1093 1094 1095 1096 1097 1098 1099 1100 1101 1102 1103 1104 1105 1106 1107 1108 1109 1110 1111 1112 1113 1114 1115 1116 1117 1118 1119 1120 1121 1122 1123 1124 1125 1126 1127 1128 1129 1130 1131 1132 1133 1134 1135 1136 1137 1138 1139 1140 1141 1142 1143 1144 1145 1146 1147 1148 1149 1150 1151 1152 1153 1154 1155 1156 1157 1158 1159 1160 1161 1162 1163 1164 1165 1166 1167 1168