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IMO, it is a shame that the most important thing to the OP was the size of your new puppy ? Gosh that was the furtherst thing from my mind when looking for a yorkie. I wonder why this is such a big deal to you. + this is not a huge size difference at all. If your not going to be happy with your little male puppy then, rehome him, take him back, just do not keep him. He deserves a loving home. I am sorry you feel angry and mislead . Let this be a lesson to you .Do not do business over the internet, not when it comes to live animals. |
I'm going to try and not repeat what others have already said, you got some good advice already. I just want to ask, if you already had three "teacups" shouldn't you know better? Also as far as the weight being scratched out, that can happen. Just the other day when I took Uni to the vet, the tech weighed her, and she said 4.8 as she wrote that in Uni's file. I said "what? no way", so we weighed her again on another scale and she said 5.1. So she proceeded to scratch out the first weight and put in the second weight, b/c I know Uni is over 5 lbs. Anyway, be glad that since you bought online, and from kijiji at that, that you didn't get a half dead parasite infested pup. You should consider yourself very very lucky. |
:)A 4lb dog is still tiny. I understand that it is upsetting that the puppy was not correctly represented, but it is yours, and we all live and learn from our expierences. I also wanted to add that a good breeder shouldn't necessarily charge alot more money for a tiny yorkie. Maddie, my little girl is 2 1/2 lbs and alot more work than any dog I have ever had. The breeder I got her from knew that the small ones take extra care and sold her to me for about 600 dollars less than what she sold Maddie's bigger brothers. Mad's sister is slightly smaller than her and sold for 300 less than Maddie. I would just enjoy my new puppy if I were you, I am sure that she is just precious. We love puppy pictures here on YT!:) Oh and Welcome. |
To the OP, so you want to return the pup for a refund and she is not willing to do that? Or are you looking for some sort of rebate? I'm feeling sorry for the little guy you got who might not be as small as you want but still deserves to be loved and spoiled..... |
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I just can't get over why someone would want a 2 lber? I mean if you have read and researched the breed WHY on earth would you want a 2lber? I think the OP didn't do the proper research, thought she was getting a "teacup" and thought they cost more when in fact you shouldn't charge more for a smaller yorkie, the standard size yorkie is under 7 lbs not 5-6 lbs. 5 lbs is tiny. The smaller you go the less of a "dog" you have. |
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I'm feeling sorry for the little guy you got who might not be as small as you want but still deserves to be loved and spoiled.....[/QUOTE] :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup: |
ok first i dont even know where to start. i do agree with one of the mothers on here they are right and im not sure how to say this without offending you BUT if you did your research before you bought the baby you would have known that you do not want a yorkie 1 1.2lbs that is unsafe and unhealthy. i dont want to offend you but i am stating facts here. second off there is nothing wrong with buying a dog online to be honest i purchase my baby from a breeder in minnesota and there is nothing wrong with him he is in perfect good health and he weight 3.4lbs i got him december 08 he was born october 08 and still till this day the breeder emails me and checks on denzel and i send her pictures every month. so i dont agree with some people who say dont purchase a puppy online i guess maybe i was lucky. but i do believe you should take this to court especially if you have the documents as i have seen this many times on court tv and the person with the documents always win in favor. and if you say this puppy is adorable you should keep it if it will not have a negative affect from your part. but if this baby makes you happy i would sue the lady for the amount owed because i agree 1300 is wayyyy to much for a dog i paid 500 for my dog and i paid 100 for his plane ticket. but i am so sorry you had to experience this its awful because people like her make it hard for people to trust other people in life PERIOD. good luck and keep me updated please |
I think what the problem is is that the OP was lied to about the current weight of the puppy. Yes she wanted a smaller yorkie, which is why she paid more money for this one. The day before the puppy was shipped to her the breeder told her it weighed 1lb 10oz and then a day later when she received said dog it weighed 2lbs 6oz. A dog does not gain 12 oz in a day. She was lied to about the current size of the yorkie so that the breeder could charge more. THAT is the problem the OP is having. I don't think its because she wanted a 2 lb adult because i'm pretty sure she realized that it was going to gain more then 6oz in the next few months. The OP is mad that she was lied to and paid more for a puppy that was suppose to weigh less. Now she is asking what she can do about the misrepresentation of the puppy. Its true that adult weigh cannot be exactly determined when purchasing a puppy. However a lot of yorkie puppies DO follow the growth chart and most times the smaller the puppy is the smaller it will be as an adult. So by thinking she was buying an almost 5 month old puppy that only weighed a little more then 1.4lbs she could assume that the puppy wasn't going to weigh more then 3lbs. This puppy however, she says is already taller then her other dogs which are older then him so he will probably weigh. That is what i got out of her posts. No where does she say that she doesn't want him or doesn't like/love him. She is just upset that the breeder lied to her which is perfectly understandable and she wants to know what she can do about it. To the OP, i'm sorry this happened. I'm not sure how you would go about reporting her but i hope you are able to work something out with her and get some of your money back since your puppy was misrepresented. |
Yes, you may have been duped a bit by her giving you the b.s weight guarantee but you should have known that wasn't possible in the first place. The price was great either way and you have to take your share of the responsibility here. You didn't do your research and you got bent. Lesson learned. (hopefully) I really hope you don't take this out on the pup and that you can love her and take care of her forever. If not, please rehome her, she doesn't deserve anything but the best! :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup: I guess I'm a little shocked. Considering the OP has 3 other yorkies, I would think she would know that there is no such thing as a "teacup" just as there is no guarantee of size. |
I just think that if the op sues then she better be willing to give the pup back. The judge will either find the deal is null and void and she will get her money back and give the pup back or keep the pup and get nothing monitarily back. She will have to prove fraud. It can be very difficult. Lesson learned!! I agree sometimes you luck out and get what you pay for sight unseen and sometimes you don't, But if you are looking for specifics it's best to see before you buy. |
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Liars! I just hate liars and it looks like the OP was lied to by the broker/breeder/whatever that sold her this puppy. It really is not a question of whether or not there are teacups, whether bigger is better, or whether she will love the pup or not. It is a question of being taken for a ride by a broker that is trying to sell pups by saying they are smaller than they are. The pup did not gain all that weight in one day shipping. The OP already said the seller will not return her money, so just sending the pup back is not an option. Then she would be without the pup and without the money. She never said she would not love the pup even though it was not what she was supposed to be buying. Inadvertently this dishonest broker may have done the OP a favor by sending a healthier weight pup, but she should still be held accountable for the lie. I am sick to death of these puppy sellers trying to trick everyone because they know how adorable the puppies are. They figure everyone will just fall in love with them, regardless of what is or is not true in the ads or communications. I say, keep the puppy, AND follow ladymom's suggestion to take her to court for "misleading the buyer." The OP may wind up with her puppy and at least a chunk of the money back. If someone does not start taking a stand against these dishonest practices, they will never change. |
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to remove their baby teeth. Some have MVD, HE which are liver diseases, Some have Liver Shunts that may or may not be fixed. I thought I wanted a tiny Yorkie, until I did research and talked to friends. You might have needed to do some. Just love the puppy, I am sure your size doesn't matter to him/her. Plus I have heard awful stories about shipped puppies and dogs. You may not realize it yet, but you got lucky. As long as the puppy is healthy just love it. |
2 pounds at 5 months is really small for a yorkie. I got my Kingston at 10 weeks old and he weighed 2 pounds. i predicted his size to be around 5 pounds. he's now almost 8 months old and weighs 3.5 pounds. trust me...you don't want a dog thats 2 pounds full grown. you'll be constantly worrying about them getting hurt. i have to keep looking where i step, cause one wrong move and your yorkie might end up at the vet. they also like to jump from high places and that freaks me out even more. i think 4 pounds is the smallest i would consider. |
Theres always two sides to a story. The OP tells us their side of the story, but how do we know to call this person a broker, puppymill or anything YET if we don't know for sure, maybe the previous owner THOUGHT the puppy may weigh less, I know my scale is off a pound or two. I don't know, I think that yes the OP has a chance to get her money back IF what we know is the total truth, but again you need to take some responibility as well |
Buying a puppy can be a lot of fun. Sometimes we get so excited about adopting a new puppy that we forget to ask the breeder some specific questions pertaining to the dog or get important information documented in the written guarantee. I agree with pookiebear. If the weight was guaranteed in the contract, then more than likely you will win in a civil suit. I understand why you are upset. You paid more for the Yorkie, because you wanted a very small Yorkie. You think the breeder lied about the puppy's weight to get you to buy the dog. I would be upset if that happen to me. Breeders can only estimate a dog's weight as an adult dog. I do not understand why a breeder would guarantee a dog's weight at maturity. Try to look on the bright side; you got a healthy and cute puppy. I bet a lot of us on this forum, including me, overpaid for our dogs. My breeder made Josh sound like a champion stud. The breeder even told me I got Josh at a discount price. LOL After joining this forum, I learned how much Yorkies should cost based on how they meet the breed's standards. Next time I will research the market before buying a dog, and then I will know when I got a good price on a dog. Money is not everything. I am happy to have a healthy, affectionate, playful, and cute dog. Hey, Josh is a champion stud in my heart. I know you love your dog, and I understand your frustration. If the breeder wrote the puppy's weight was 1lb and 10 oz at 19 weeks, then I hope you win your case. I wish you and your puppy the best. We all learn from our experiences, I know I did. :) |
Yes, if it's any consolation, I grossly overpaid for Thor. :) But it was still worth it. I agree that you may end up happy with a larger dog. Thor is 4 lbs, and while it's great to be able to carry him around in a purse wherever I go, I wish for his sake he were at least twice as big. The world is a dangerous place when you are that small. Off-topic, I was walking a lab the other day, and I accidentally stepped on his paw. We all know how a yorkie would squeak after an mis-step like that. This lab didn't even blink! Size has its benefits. |
PLease consider that a healthy puppy is what is most important. With yorkies, Americans have becoe extreme with size and that has caused major health issues and unsafe breeding practices. Don't be a part of this by encouraging breeders to create samller and smaller dogs with so many health issues, unable to enjoy a happy quality of life due to teeth, bone, and internal organ issues. Instead, promote healthy breeding and reasonable sizes for yorkies and all dogs. "Cute" should never be the factor; some 15 lb. yorkies are just as adorable and far more able to enjoy all the experiences a dog's life can offer. Please think about your motivations for getting a yorkie. |
Re re puppie What ever age size the yorkie is it should still be loved.Like the other yorkies loves said if yoy dont want it because of its size then sell it ti someone who will love it. |
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I hope the OP comes back. We all love dogs, I just want to help. I hope the puppy and owner are having a wonderful day. I hope the situations works out in a manner that is good for the dog and the owner. :) |
Im sorry but I have to agree with what some have already said. Im sorry that you feel that you were lied too, but honestly wanting a 2 pound dog and being upset because the dog is bigger than that is just wrong.:( Why would you want a dog that small? Do you relize that something simply falling off your counter can land on and kill a dog that small or stepping on her/him on accident can kill a dog that small? Ive seen it on this board with a "normal" size yorkie pup. I have a 4 pound toy poodle that I worry about constantly because of her size and I have a 9 pound yorkie mix that was "suppose" to only be 4 pounds that I dont worry nearly as much about because he is bigger and more sturdy. Not to mention all the health problems that can occur with a dog that small especially if it came from a broker/puppymill. I really hope that you do some more research on the breed and read this board, there is a ton of great info. I wish you lots of luck with your new pup and welcome to yt :). |
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She need to go and search what I wrote about Keylee. She is a 1 1/2 lbs full grown Yorkie. I think of her as a dwarf. I raised her, her mom was 7.5 lbs and dad 4 lbs. Never breed to have one this size and I hope it never happens again. She was too small to ever trust anyone with. She has to eat many small meal a day and be feed Nur-cal. Because if she don't eat good her sugar will bottom out. (They can died from this) if you work or go to school all day you would come home to a died dog. For what I have learned 1st hand anything smaller than 3lbs is to small. 4 lbs is a great size, still small but you would have to deal with the sugar thing. But my #1 dog is 7 lbs Barbie is my life and she sleep with me everynight. Keylee is too small to sleep with me, I could lie on her, or she could try to jump off the bed. I just wish people would stop looking for these tiny tiny babies. oh and about the price of smallers being more, I can see that, because there is no with enough $$$$$$ to make me trust them with Keylee. LOL And yes I had a lady offer me $5000 for her and I said no. The only way I would ever place Keylee is if something happens to me and I can't take care of her the way she needs. Go look at Keylee's pictures, she is 1lb 10 oz if she has ate really good she is almost 2lbs. Most people do not readly know what a 2lb dog looks like, because people lie about size so much. It is a fact that alot of breeders lie about size, I can look at there dogs and tell it is not a 2 or 3 lbs dog. More like 5 or 6 lbs. |
Outlaw internet puppy sales! I still wish we could outlaw internet puppy sales and all of the brokers/third party sales (which includes pet shops). If everyone got their puppy in person from the breeder that raised them and witnessed their living conditions, saw the puppies first hand before paying, so MANY, MANY problems would be solved! Probabaly never happen now. :( I do think the internet has been a huge boon to puppymills and unscrupulous breeders. I can see using a website to get the word out/advertise and then still do business face to face. But all of these sites that let you buy the puppy online with a credit card and a click of the button......:thumbdown:thumbdown One I saw even had the shopping cart! :thumbdown:thumbdown |
It seems like we read this same thing over and over and over again....so my question is Why did you want a tiny tiny dog??? My Laci is 4 .8 pounds and she is sooooo tiny to me, honestly I wish she were bigger for her sake and mine... Its scary when they are so tiny.... You will love him no matter what size he is I promise! |
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