DNA Results Are In
 

Just got Sully's DNA back. He's 85-90% Yorkshire Terrier and 10-15% West Highland White Terrier... (must be why he's bigger)

So I guess that makes him a:

A Yorkland Terrier?
A Westland Yorkie?

Trying to come up with some creative breed name...JUST don't call my baby a mutt...he's very sensitive.

The place where I got him got a hell of an earful....their response...."sometimes you just don't know who's jumping over the fence into the backyard". Bunch of Morons.

West Yorkland Terrier! Ha
He is cute :)

I'm wondering, I didn't say any threads before so sorry if it's been asked before, but was he "suppose" to be purebred? What made you get a DNA test.

Seriously??? You don't know who is jumping over the fence??? I take it he was supposed to be purebred and sold as such? Did you get a refund? I know you love him all the same.

Was the dna a MARS wisdom test? It's not accurate for testing purebreed dogs....with the percentages you received...it's likely the trace amounts that appeared are simply markers that show up in lots of other breeds.

Were he the mix of two different breeds...he wouldn't show up 85% - 90%. You get half the dna from each parent...not all one side.

He may be larger, but I think he's all yorkie.

I've had posts buried in with other threads on the topic of purebreds, largers yorkies and such. I had so many people telling me I got ripped off cause he was a big yorkie - so I decided to get it done to find out once and for all.

Yes, I did buy him as a purebred. Hey, live and learn. I love him anyway but at least now when people say. "he's not a yorkie and that he looks like he had Beagle in him or that he looks part chiuahua"....I can show them the paper showing no beagle or chi.... He's a terrier.

That would make sense. I thought it was a small amount only 10-15% rather than 50% because one of his grandparents or back even a little further along the line came from West Highland...

A Workie?

He's fab whatever is in there :)

No refund. Yes he was supposed to be purebred. I wrote them a NASTY letter and left a message with the manager of the place where I got him....(yes I got him at a pet store) Forgive me....

I've learned my lesson not to "rescue" from a pet store EVER again. Learned a lot on this forum and wished I came here before, but then again I believe everything happens for a reason and that I was supposed to have this little guy in our home. He's brought joy to us - I just wanted some ammunition for rude people on the street who insist on telling me I got ripped off.

It is the breeder's response that would have me livid -- I agree it was a moronic response! That shows they don't really have much faith in their own security when it comes to females in heat. Even though the "accident" probably happened several generations back, it would make me have little trust in the current breeder either. They are probably breeding dogs that don't meet the standard to start with.

But your big guy is very cute and I am sure he will bring you many years of joy! I know it can be disappointing to not get what you expect, especially when some of us waited a long time to get the Yorkie we had in mind. But all things seem to happen for a reason, and sometimes the pup that might be off in a standard or two is the very best pet of all.

Aww, I know how you feel about the whole "pet store thing". I bought my Ralphie from what was basically a pet shop. Obviously if I knew what I knew now I wouldn't have done it, but he is just the best thing that ever happened to me so I guess I can't really be that upset about it. I love him so much it hurts :p:p All we can do is help educate others.

How about calling him a "Yestie". I still like "Workie the best though :D:D:D

Hmmm....so maybe I wrote the nasty letter for nothing?....that would be embarrassing...maybe that's what the manager of the store wants to tell me....YIKES. oooopsy

Yeah, I've done some serious digging and come to find out that my baby made a LONG trip to Northern New England from Arkansas to a place called Hunte Corporation in Missouri (I know, I know - I had NO IDEA about this place) I cringe when I think about his poor mother and the pups she must be pumping out and then sent off in a truck to this New Hampshire pet store. Poor little guy. (tearing up)

Don't feel bad! I would of responded the same, perhaps one of the grandparents were one of those " jumped over the fence dogs " :p

You posted this as I was typing my previous post so I did not realize he came from a pet store and not direct from a breeder. So, it was the pet store that made the comment about "just don't know who's jumping over the fence into the back yard." They probably have no idea about the place the puppy actually came from then. I think most of those pet stores buy from a third party broker and never even communicate with the actual breeder.

After reading a couple of these threads about people who have gone to all of the trouble and expense to get the DNA testing to determine if their dog is a purebred or not.... I am thinking it is probably a waste of time and money. If the test cannot tell if a dog is purebred, then these results that show just a little percentage of another breed are within the realm of what a purebred dog might test at. Am I reading all of their disclaimers right? I am disappointed with the testing! I would have thought it could tell a purebred. I am not sure why else people would want the test. If you know you have a mix, why pay money for the test? I think the company needs to make it perfectly clear that a purebred dog tested with their DNA test will not always show 100% of one breed.

It seems poorly bred is more of a problem than mixed bred.

I really had no idea how bad the puppy mill situation was either until I came to Yorkietalk. Don't feel bad about something you didn't know, but just do all you can now to help inform others before purchasing, and also encourage your local government to pass laws that will raise kennel conditions. Also join the Yorkietalk social club YAP (Yorkies Against Puppymills), we inform each other about state legistlation, and other things concerning puppy mills. You can join the group, by clicking on the link in my signature. Sully's a cutie, but irresponsible breeding needs to be stopped.

Good point.

Going to join YAP...... right after I go home and cuddle my furbutt

By the way, if the test was accurate that would mean that one of the grandparents or great parents was part westie the rest would be yorkie. But personally from what I have learned I think the test is flawed.

You shouldn't base if your dog is purebred or not on the test results you received. If you contact the company that did the testing they will confirm that it was not intended to prove if a dog is purebred. Ask the test company for clarification on the results and you will see what I mean. :)

I've always wanted to see a "Westshire" terrier! I love Westies, and if we had space, we would have a Westie, but not in this cramped apartment! ;)

Do you have an album where I can see more photos of your baby??

I'm sorry you thought he was purebred. He is adorable, whatever his DNA says!! (I had the same thought about the percentages being off, but whatever):p

I think the term would be a "Wookie". :D

I have also heard mixed things about the results, so don't take it at face value... does he have a westie-ish tail? Fat, and he doesn't mind if you pull on it? Does he have more white hair than you'd expect? Is his hair relatively coarse?

There are a lot of big yorkies, so I don't know if I'd just go off that.

No way!!! And no refund? I'm sure you have CKC/AKC papers on him if they told you he was a pure bred. Possibly a bill of sale too. I would be furious. I understand that you still love your baby just as much as you did when he was a yorkie. I would be mad someone lied to me and then refused me a refund. Go in there and threaten to press charges and I bet they change their tune. Get the refund and then take him on a shopping spree. :p

Wait, you said you got the test done because people kept telling you he was too big? How big is your teapot?

Ok here's a thought
westhighland terrier
yorkshire terrier
how about a
Hiyorkie????:D
What ever he is it just makes him that much more special

*dies*
:rip:

HAhAHAhAH!

I got caught about the same way. I bought a miniature schnauzer from Rouki pet store in Laval Qc. She told me she was pure. When I got her home she had parvo. Thank God they payed for the vet bills and my 8 months poodle at the time, didn't catch it.

A min schnauzer weight about 10-15 pounds and 12 to 14 inches high. She now weight 25 pounds and 15+ inches high. I went back to see them but they didn't have anything to say except they wouldn't refund.

I love her but when she played with my toy poodle I was always afraid he'd get hurt. I picked schnauzer because it was the maximum size I wanted. My son wanted another dog so I gave her to him. She loves men so she's happy with him lol.

I'll never buy from that pet store again. I am to blame because my sister also bought a dog there that was suppose to stay very small. She got to be like her breed but way huge. At 2 years old she got paralised and she had to put her down. At the time we didn't think it was anybody's fault but now I wonder where they get their dogs.

My yorkie comes from a breeder nearby and I saw the mom and dad. I think it's the safest way to go. Like you say live and learn.

As of yesterday (took him to the vet), he's 2 ounces short of 13 pounds. The vet said, they do come bigger and in his opinion he's just a big Yorkie. His papers are ACA and APRI.

Yeah, I agree with you. I was just curious. His tail is docked, doesn't look fat. He only has a spot of white on his chest. His hair is soft, but not silky.

I'm 99.9% sure that Jackson is all Yorkie, and he's nearly 15lbs.
The bigger ones just come from "bad breeding" OR sometimes not.
Yorkies, when they first began, WERE larger. So sometimes they
still have that gene from way back.

I want a second dog in the future but the only reason I most
likely wouldn't get another Yorkie is their small size. I LOVE
Jackson's size but it'd probably be hard to find one close to
him. I prefer the bigger ones so you don't have to worry as much
and he's definitely very solid. That's no offense to the people
with the smaller Yorkies at all, just a personal preference.

Yup - Album in my profile.:)

We will totally go check out your albums! I took Allie out and about yesterday and a woman asked me if she was a Silky Yorkie. I think she was trying to imply that Allie was a Silky Terrier because of her tone (as though Silkys are inferior). I told her no, Allie is purebred (we think) and she said "She's just so big!" (Allie is 5 months and 8 lbs.) Thankfully another person caught our attention and distracted me with other questions, but I now understand why people get agitated by this topic, because I wasn't happy with this lady after she said this.

No offense to you owners of smaller Yorkies, but I didn't want a small Yorkie. Her mom was 7 lbs and her dad was 8lbs. I wanted a larger Yorkie.

Sorry to change topic, but this made me think of this incident yesterday.