Well in the morning i usually take him outside to do his business. Are you saying I shouldn't. Just put him on the pee pad.

Which way does he seem to be getting pads or outside thats what I would choose. There are alot of people that work and crate train

He is not going to know what the pad is for unless you teach him. It's not like a kitten and a litter box. If you want to pad train you have to take them to the pad when you KNOW they have to go, like after being crated or after eating, and wait until they go and reward them.

Mine are outside trained only. We never used pads. Yes, they go outside in bad weather. We live in Chicago so we get -30 and 100 degree days, snow, wind and rain and they are still not allowed to potty on the floor. It can be done.

If you are going to leave him at home alone all day it is going to take even longer to train him, even if you use pads. Just be aware of that. Since you are not there to reinforce it, he's going to do whatever he wants. I would crate train and have someone walk him at lunch, like a neighbor or a dog walker, but that's me. I came home at lunch. I realize not everyone can do that, but then you can't complain when you give him free roam before he's trained and he poops on the carpet.

Keep the door closed to the areas he likes to poop in and don't ever let him be unsupervised. If you are taking him out every hour and he is having accidents, take him out every half hour. Walking a dog is good way to get them empty, as opposed to just standing in the yard. Mine go out and pee once in the yard but 4-5 times on a walk :)

Also, if you use pads you are essentially teaching him its OK to go in the house. Some dogs get it, but many don't understand the difference between "on a pad, in the laundry room" or "on the throw rug, in the kitchen" Going outside requires them signaling you they need to go (we use a bell), getting a leash on, waiting for you to open the door, going outside, smelling grass (THIS is the key, grass smells nothing like the inside of your house!) and getting a treat. It's a whole process. Going and peeing in the corner doesn't have that process and some dogs just don't get it...

Just wanted to add that I use Nature's Miracle pads, which are supposed to be specially grass scented. I myself can't smell them, but I believe Thor identifies the area by smell. He certainly enjoys sniffing around them! I have a pad at work that I move around, and he will follow the pad.

But yes, one of the funniest stories I've heard on YT was a puppy who apparently went off "white square" to decide where to pee. That worked fine, unless the sunlight came in through the window, magically creating a new "white square" to use.

What a cute story...:)

really like this forum getting all my questions answered without having to ask them

I'm uncertain if our success in training Bailey was due to our process or because she's just a good dog? I kinda think it was both.

Anyhow, I work too - and we had Bailey trained in 2 mos - 100% reliable at 4 mos. I went into it with 100% of my undivided attention. Fortunately, my hubby was just as dedicated to the process - so we were able to tag-team.

Words of advice: never multi-task while potty training. Either the puppy is in the crate, or she is in a room (blocked off) and supervised. Bailey is trained to go outside - only. During the day, she was kept in an ex-pen with vinyl on the floor, water and a pee pad. Since I wasn't there during the day, she just peed everywhere in the expen. No rules in her ex-pen. No biggie - I just took 5 minutes every day and cleaned it up. (lots of baths - lol) At about 8 mos - she began to hold it all day.

What ever process you you decide - be consisitent and dedicated. They quickly learn to go behind your back when unsupervised - don't even turn your back to brush your teeth - they're just too quick! The more mistakes in the house, the harder your job will be. A couple months of dedication = a life time of trust.

Good luck :)

Missy was really easy to train for me. I just kept her in her ex-pen and shrunk it right down in size, so that there was just room for pee pads, food/water, and her crate. Once she had that down pat, I gradually increased the size of the ex-pen. After that, I used the ex-pen to section off half of my kitchen, she did great....so I allowed her the full kitchen. Then gradually I increased it until she had full reign of the house. You have to be patient and consistant. I'd only have her out of the ex-pen when she is supervised. Just my opinion, but it worked for us :)

This site is great for educating.. there is always someone who will ask the question for you without realizing they are helping you too!

Oh my, Munchie is still so young I think your expecting a little to much potty skill to soon. If your concerned with the accidents then you need to either crate train or make sure that Munchie is at your side whenever free roam is involved, otherwise your going to have poop/pee where you don't want it. it is a given with any puppy that there will be accidents and yorkies are notrarious for being difficult to train.

Dual training can work, I will attest to it not working for all dogs though. I am retraining my almost 2 yr old to use an artifical grass litter box in my garage or go outside... no more in the house here.

Let me tell you, I have a puppy, different breed that is going to be one year in October and she is STILL not house broken, I have been at it for a month and she has at least one accident a day. I also have a 3 year old toddler and if YOU don't take responsibility to take them to the pad or outside you can't expect them to know. Even now both of them have accidents and it's not THEIR fault, it's usually MY fault. Perhaps you need to keep him outside or on his pad longer, just like with a child sometimes you need to tell them to go even if they dont want to at the moment. But even if they don't go that moment, try again sooner rather then later. My 2 year old yorkie still has the occasional accident, if her pad is not clean enough. Sometimes I also have to get THEIR scent of pee or poop on the pad to get them to "get the idea" .. I'd suggest you take out any carpet in your room and get alot of patience.

Just another thing to add to this...you'd never leave a toddler lose in your home without a diaper, right? So, think of your lil' one the same way...confined spaces with Piddle Pads and lot's & lot's of praise when he hit's the target whether on the pad or the lawn! ;)

Consistency is key so, don't beat yourself up or get frustrated with your lil' one...cuz, it's not always an easy or quick process either to house train ...but, it will get better!

Good luck to you! :D

Let me just say that Munchie is starting to get it guys. He has been using his wee wee pads alot now. Its mostly at night. I dont know why but its still great. Im so happy:D

I would just like to add my two cents worth here . Having had shepherds for 20 years that trained at 10 weeks old , I was wondering if I was losing my housetraining technique until I came to this site and learned so much about this little breed. Just like the group says , it was well into 8 months before my little guy got the hang of it all ...and that took a lot of human patience. When you know you are not the only one going through this , it does help your perspective. I started with the pee pads and now he does both ..outside and pads. Sometimes , he still makes a mistake at over a year but I forgive him because he is so darn cute !!!!! He is a doll and I just love him ...accidents or not .

Wow, he did a about face in 3 days?? What did you do that made him catch on?
Jemma is 7 months now. It took a good 6 months before she got it. Sometimes she just misses the pad and I never scold her for it because she did go to the pad, just a miss. Also will not go poo and pee on the same pad, she uses. So I have one in the kitchen near the door and one in the bathroom where she poos.
It sounds like he has the run of the house which he shouldn't. Munchie is a baby and needs tight supervision. When I go to work I still keep Jemma in a puppy pen with her little bed, a pad, food/water and her toys. Because they are so small, they can get into paces we wouldn't even think about. And imagine a puppy chewing on a electric cord and gets electrocuted?
I doubt Muchie is potty trained yet. Too young.
Good luck in the trainning