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wantayorkie23 05-10-2009 10:08 PM

Would it be bad to buy a yorkie puppy from a newspaper
 
has anyone on here has

Marilize 05-10-2009 10:39 PM

I found Cash in the newspaper. I must say: I hate his breeder now. He was covered in fleas, his parents weren't kept in the house, he is now way above standard weight (10lbs) - although I don't care about this. He was registered and not very expensive - he was actually very cheap for a yorkie. I haven't heard from the breeder in two years although I tried to keep contact during the first year.
The breeder was a BYB and was extremely rude when I asked questions. She couldn't answer any questions, not even potty training questions - maybe since her dogs are outside.
Cash was also impossible to potty train (took me 1.5 years and he still has accidents in the house) since he had no problem with living in his own filth.
The second time around, I got June from a hobby breeder who cares dearly for her dogs (even though the mother was one of her pups that was returned due to mental health issues with the former owner). The pups were raised inside and June is a little fireball. Very friendly and playful.
Oh, and Cash was dropped and bullied by his breeder's son and now he is very skittish of strangers. He has gotten a lot better with loads of training.

Sooooo, you can find a pup in the newspaper, but go and check it out before you decide to buy. Ask loads of questions and if they can't answer, walk away. I have spent thousands training Cash due to the issues that the breeder created. If you can, go to a reputable breeder who cares for their dogs.
It is a lot cheaper in the long run.

ILoVeEMiNnie 05-10-2009 10:48 PM

no its not bad if u buy it from a good breeder... but by the way Iwantayorkie when are u getting a yorkie lol I am anxious for u I always see ur posts I couldn't wait that long I would be so upset to not get it exactly when I want it I hope u get it before the summer...Good Luck

shell820810 05-11-2009 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Marilize (Post 2617158)
I found Cash in the newspaper. I must say: I hate his breeder now. He was covered in fleas, his parents weren't kept in the house, he is now way above standard weight (10lbs) - although I don't care about this. He was registered and not very expensive - he was actually very cheap for a yorkie. I haven't heard from the breeder in two years although I tried to keep contact during the first year.
The breeder was a BYB and was extremely rude when I asked questions. She couldn't answer any questions, not even potty training questions - maybe since her dogs are outside.
Cash was also impossible to potty train (took me 1.5 years and he still has accidents in the house) since he had no problem with living in his own filth.
The second time around, I got June from a hobby breeder who cares dearly for her dogs (even though the mother was one of her pups that was returned due to mental health issues with the former owner). The pups were raised inside and June is a little fireball. Very friendly and playful.
Oh, and Cash was dropped and bullied by his breeder's son and now he is very skittish of strangers. He has gotten a lot better with loads of training.

Sooooo, you can find a pup in the newspaper, but go and check it out before you decide to buy. Ask loads of questions and if they can't answer, walk away. I have spent thousands training Cash due to the issues that the breeder created. If you can, go to a reputable breeder who cares for their dogs.
It is a lot cheaper in the long run.

Cash sounds exactly like Millie. She was covered in fleas, kept separate from the mother in an outside shed, so was very unsocialised. She varied from being scared of strangers to defensive/aggressive. We adored her, and I would give anything to have her back. I fell in love with her, and at the time, it didnt matter where she was from. I never heard from the breeder (BYB) at all.

This time I went through the Yorkie club and I have a totally different pup. The breeder has rang twice from I got him last Wednesday. He just loves playing, is so friendly with everyone. He is so responsive to our voices (even though we havent named him yet!) :confused:
He is totally different to Millie, and I believe it was due to their difference in the start to their lives. With regards their personality I think as long as they were loved and given plenty of attention, it wont really matter if its the paper, or a reputable breeder. But if you want quality, and want to know that the parentage has been tested etc, you need to go to a good breeder.

With regards money, my new pup has over 25 champions in a 5 generation pedigree and he only cost £35-£50 more than what some of the local BYBs were looking! :eek:

Ladymom 05-11-2009 06:16 AM

Reputable breeders do not advertise their puppies in the newspaper. Most likely all the ads you see are from backyard breeders.

Puppies from backyard breeders can have lots of health problems because no health testing is done on the parents. They can end up costing you a fortune in vet bills. They usually grow up to look pretty different from what a Yorkie is supposed to look like, too.

ARCHIE 05-11-2009 06:34 AM

There are many times a family's pet has a litter.
I would go, check out the mom and dad, ask if the
pups have had their shots, get the vet phone number
and if you like what you see buy the puppy with no problem.
I know many people who have purchased their pet's
this way and have no problem at all. I would do this
before I bought a pup over the internet and had it
shipped to me. IMO.

Sugar's Mom 05-11-2009 07:13 AM

well, I would hope that I am a 'reputable" breeder Ladymom since I have so many good reviews on here. I do advertise my puppies sometimes in the newspaper. Just for the record, I sell online also. That way, they can go local and I don't worry about where they are going and having to fly them. I often see them around town. :) buying from the newspaper is the same as buying anywhere , even on here since a few bad breeders sseem to have found us. YOU must research your breeder, ask questions and etc before you put any money on a pup.

chachi 05-11-2009 07:17 AM

I b ought from my breeder that was in our trader paper. I now have 2 cute 4 yr old yorkies that havent had any health problems

alisonJ 05-11-2009 07:21 AM

I purchased Edie from the newspaper. I went to the house, and Edie and her mother were in the house, very well taken care of, interacting with the family, clean, etc. Edie's sister had already been purchased.

The owner had only one dog, Edie's mother. The father lived a few miles away. I never saw him. The breeder only planned to breed Edie's mother once or twice. She was a very experienced Yorkie owner, having owned many during her lifetime.

Based on the home environment, I did buy Edie, and have not regretted it.:)

kalina82 05-11-2009 07:22 AM

i would think buying from the newspaper is the same as buying from the internet, except that the pups in the newspaper live much closer. Either way, i would visit the breeder and the pups. ask tons of questions, play with the mom and dad, check out the breeders house and where she keeps the dogs. if you feel uncomfortable about ANYTHING, do not buy from them. its hard because puppies tug at your heartstrings

AshSavalle 05-11-2009 07:27 AM

I bought our Teddy from the newspaper. The lady was so shady when I think of it now! He had a few skin problems, but did not show up for about 3 months after we bought him. I don't think It had anything to do with her but it would have been nice to know if there were any health issues in his family.
It was really up to me to ask all the questions, and i was pretty young and didn't know what to ask at the time!
He is so healthy and beautiful now though. So I have NO regrets at all!!

I would just REALLY pay attention to your surroundings if you go to their house or "meet up". Ask a lot of questions. I would even ask why they had to take out an ad, to see if it is the first time (maybe the economy is hurting). Just really drill in the questions!
Good Luck!!

LilMissy 05-11-2009 07:33 AM

I found Missy in a newspaper ad. I couldn't be happier. The Mom and Dad were both owned by the byb and were gorgeous. The puppies and all the animals in the home were spoiled rotten. I couldn't have asked for any better! Missy has ended up to be an absolute gem and I wouldn't have done it any other way. BUT, I do have to say...I had seen several litters before Missy's from other breeders that had advertised in the paper, they weren't so nice. You have to really be careful and watch for the warning signs.

FlDebra 05-11-2009 07:33 AM

I got Sadie from a referral from the grooming shop. But I found Ben from an ad in the paper. The breeder I got Sadie from went with me because she knew I wanted to breed and she was helping me know what to look for. She was so impressed with the puppies, she bought a female and I got the male. It is not so much where they advertise as what else they are doing. I wanted home-raised only pups. There are even show breeders that have kennels where the dogs are kept in cages. I did not want that. I wanted puppies that were with people since they were born. I got it and what a wonderful pair!

Have to admit though -- I also went to two other places that advertised in the paper and did NOT buy a puppy. They were keeping their puppies in stacked cages all the time and you could tell they were not pets. One even had an old cement building with no A/C (we're in Florida!). As much as I hated to leave puppies there, I could not contribute to it either. There was also a different look to the puppies. I wanted a Yorkie that met standards and LOOKED like a Yorkie. They were all cute but the 2 breeders I used had puppies that were so much better looking than the others. I think you should make yourself go to a few different breeders before you buy. Ask questions, get permission to talk with their vet, look around, see the parents, be sure!

I am going to put an ad in the paper for some of my puppies from this litter. I just do not know enough people wanting yorkies to go word of mouth. This is only the second litter of puppies I have ever had (or I should say -- my dogs have ever had). :) The first litter went to all family and one friend. Gotta start somewhere. But I will screen. These precious babies won't go to just anyone!

mypreciouspups 05-11-2009 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Ladymom (Post 2617364)
Reputable breeders do not advertise their puppies in the newspaper. Most likely all the ads you see are from backyard breeders.

Puppies from backyard breeders can have lots of health problems because no health testing is done on the parents. They can end up costing you a fortune in vet bills. They usually grow up to look pretty different from what a Yorkie is supposed to look like, too.

well I guess I am a back yard breeder.. rarely do I use the newspaper but I sure do check out potential buyers... having a litter a year does not warrant a website and since I must meet new parents.. I need to sell locally.. I have good yorkies.. and have integrity and I do not use kennels and my dogs do not leave with fleas for I do not allow any of my dogs to have fleas.. I use advantage mulit 10 on each of my dogs each month..
I also take this as an unsult, for those that have met me and know me know I am not a back yard breeder.. and have spent lots of dollars to get to where I am at right now..
I also do not post yorkies for sale on these forums for I must meet the new owners that my darling babies go to.. I know many show breeders and I have so much more integrity then many of those breeders.. just because they show do not mean they are the best to purchase a yorkie from..
anne

Sugar's Mom 05-11-2009 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by FlDebra (Post 2617503)
I got Sadie from a referral from the grooming shop. But I found Ben from an ad in the paper. The breeder I got Sadie from went with me because she knew I wanted to breed and she was helping me know what to look for. She was so impressed with the puppies, she bought a female and I got the male. It is not so much where they advertise as what else they are doing. I wanted home-raised only pups. There are even show breeders that have kennels where the dogs are kept in cages. I did not want that. I wanted puppies that were with people since they were born. I got it and what a wonderful pair!

Have to admit though -- I also went to two other places that advertised in the paper and did NOT buy a puppy. They were keeping their puppies in stacked cages all the time and you could tell they were not pets. One even had an old cement building with no A/C (we're in Florida!). As much as I hated to leave puppies there, I could not contribute to it either. There was also a different look to the puppies. I wanted a Yorkie that met standards and LOOKED like a Yorkie. They were all cute but the 2 breeders I used had puppies that were so much better looking than the others. I think you should make yourself go to a few different breeders before you buy. Ask questions, get permission to talk with their vet, look around, see the parents, be sure!

I am going to put an ad in the paper for some of my puppies from this litter. I just do not know enough people wanting yorkies to go word of mouth. This is only the second litter of puppies I have ever had (or I should say -- my dogs have ever had). :) The first litter went to all family and one friend. Gotta start somewhere. But I will screen. These precious babies won't go to just anyone!



At least they will be local. I only have one pup for sale right now but she will probably be in the paper and online when she is old enough. I always have a waiting list for my puppies and I sent out a birth announcement to all the people on my list a few days ago and the ones that replied got tired of waiting since I haven't had puppies for a year. Oh well, that'ss the way it goes sometimes. Good luck selling your puppies.

Ladymom 05-11-2009 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Sugar's Mom (Post 2617508)
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At least they will be local. I only have one pup for sale right now but she will probably be in the paper and online when she is old enough. I always have a waiting list for my puppies and I sent out a birth announcement to all the people on my list a few days ago and the ones that replied got tired of waiting since I haven't had puppies for a year. Oh well, that'ss the way it goes sometimes. Good luck selling your puppies.

You certainly fit my definition of a reputable breeder. A reputable breeder only has puppies to better the breed, his own bloodlines, etc. not for profit so they don't have that many litters per year. They usually have a waiting list so they don't have to advertise in newspapers. Many reputable breeders like yourself have not had litters recently because of the economy. They do not want to produce puppies that don't have homes waiting.

RoxyLuv 05-11-2009 09:20 AM

IMO there are no safe places for breeders to advertise & no safe places for buyers from anymore. It's strictly buyer beware regardless who/where you buy from. I've run into bad breeders & scams (even from local paper) wherever I looked, as well as good breeders. There are good breeders everywhere too. Not everyone has access to people who know reputable breeders, including myself. There just are no guarantees.

Make a list of really good questions, go see the breeders & dogs. You have to start somewhere. Try to make good judgement calls. If the breeder & pups don't feel right, don't do the deal. Go with your gut! Good luck & have fun shopping. : ) Being patient was the hardest part for me, but we got a real jewel.

Ladymom 05-11-2009 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by RoxyLuv (Post 2617639)
Not everyone has access to people who know reputable breeders, including myself.

Anyone who has a computer has access to reputable breeders. The YTCA website has a list of recommended breeders by state. It's the best place for anyone looking for a Yorkie puppy to start their search.

Bonnie Blue 05-11-2009 10:08 AM

I bought a bichon several years ago from a newspaper ad. It was a disaster. I overruled my own common sense, the pups were dirty, full of fleas, took months to get the akc paperwork, I could go on and on. It is hard to walk away when you are wanting a little one but common sense must prevail.

On the flip side of the coin our little SugarBuster, yorkie, bought 3 months ago came from a hobby breeder, who happened to use a classified ad. They were pretty rural and I would not have known this litter was available otherwise. You could tell instantly, this couple lived and breathed their babies. They were all spoiled rotten, had full run of the place. Completely vetted up, socialized, It was a win win all the way around. Let common sense prevail.

Patti 05-11-2009 10:35 AM

I found Cali through the newspaper and she was a medical nightmare. I have spent over 10,000 on her and she has liver shunt, Grade 4 LP bilaterally and chronic allergies. Please buy from a reputable breeder with a lot of references.

Sandysbabies 05-11-2009 10:58 AM

I had rather buy from a newspaper than on line. I would be afraid of having one shipped and not seeing where it was born or the parents. We bought Kayla out of the paper but I think its important to ask alot of questions and go see the parents and where the puppies are raised. The breeder we bought Kayla from had an air-conditioned and heating kennel in the back of their home. In fact I think it was a double garage. They were very clean and well kept. Kayla is championed sired and the mom and dad had both been tested. She gives a year health guarantee. She said she really wanted to be a respondsible breeder. She is a Christian lady and she has kept in touch with me. I would not hestiate one minute to buy another puppy from her. So, I think the situtions can be different. I'm sure some on line are fine but it just makes a different who you are dealing with.

Breny 05-11-2009 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Sugar's Mom (Post 2617470)
well, I would hope that I am a 'reputable" breeder Ladymom since I have so many good reviews on here. I do advertise my puppies sometimes in the newspaper. Just for the record, I sell online also. That way, they can go local and I don't worry about where they are going and having to fly them. I often see them around town. :) buying from the newspaper is the same as buying anywhere , even on here since a few bad breeders sseem to have found us. YOU must research your breeder, ask questions and etc before you put any money on a pup.


:thumbup: I agree. I have not advertised in the paper before(I normally have a waiting list or they have deposits) but I wouldn't think it would make me not reputable if I did.

Miao 05-11-2009 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Ladymom (Post 2617647)
Anyone who has a computer has access to reputable breeders. The YTCA website has a list of recommended breeders by state. It's the best place for anyone looking for a Yorkie puppy to start their search.

But not all of those "reputable breeders" listed in the YTCA wants to sell to you for whatever the reason. Mine being that I plan for children in my future however, at this rate, it doesn't look like I would be blessed with any. :rolleyes: And then there are those who don't return calls (who knows if they're still breeding, but in the least, they aren't returning voicemail).

So, I bought off a kijiji ad--very much an online paper. I have also visited with several advertised in the local papers. My girl seems healthy for the most part. She may or may not have knee issues in her future, but as I've read, so do dogs from reputable show breeders. She came very clean from a spotless household and a very charming and experienced breeder.

Ladymom 05-11-2009 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Breny (Post 2617846)
:thumbup: I agree. I have not advertised in the paper before(I normally have a waiting list or they have deposits) but I wouldn't think it would make me not reputable if I did.

As I said in post #16, reputable breeders usually have waiting lists and don't have to advertise in the newspaper.

mscat 05-11-2009 11:37 AM

I Found my first Yorkie puppy through a newspaper ad> It was a elderly couple who lived in farm country out in the middle of nowhere. I drove and met her, the parents , babies. She only had one female , and it was the first litter of only 3 babies. I begged the owner to hold the female.
So far so good. There have Absolutely no problems with Suzi, and she has be delightful. A wonderful little Yorkie . Perhaps I was lucky. But, not a day goes by that I feel blessed to have my Suzi who has now been with us a year. She is a silvery blue and full of life, energy and swetness. A very smart, clever , doll baby. Ladymom, I am unsure if i was terribly wrong for going to the newspaper , however, I do know that I made the right choice buying my Yorkie who is perfect in my eyes, with No health problems whatsoever> No all news paper sellers are terrible babckyard sellers of puppies, wanting to make a quick buck, who have not bred their puppies well , not taken their pups to the vet, given vaccines, left the pups and parents outside, ECT.
It is always imperative for the buyer to do ask QUESTIONS, lots of questions, before ever taking a new puppy home. Play with a puppy , spend time talking to the owner, and loomk over the puppy carefully. Take the puppy to your vet ASAP as soon as you bring home the pup. THat is what I did:) My breeder also was very good and wanted to keep in touch, left the communication open with me. ANd made certain that I had not been around other dogs , exposing her puppies to anything . :thumbup:

Ladymom 05-11-2009 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by mscat (Post 2617898)
I Found my first Yorkie puppy through a newspaper ad> It was a elderly couple who lived in farm country out in the middle of nowhere. I drove and met her, the parents , babies. She only had one female , and it was the first litter of only 3 babies. I begged the owner to hold the female.
So far so good. There have Absolutely no problems with Suzi, and she has be delightful. A wonderful little Yorkie . Perhaps I was lucky. But, not a day goes by that I feel blessed to have my Suzi who has now been with us a year. She is a silvery blue and full of life, energy and swetness. A very smart, clever , doll baby. Ladymom, I am unsure if i was terribly wrong for going to the newspaper , however, I do know that I made the right choice buying my Yorkie who is perfect in my eyes, with No health problems whatsoever> No all news paper sellers are terrible babckyard sellers of puppies, wanting to make a quick buck, who have not bred their puppies well , not taken their pups to the vet, given vaccines, left the pups and parents outside, ECT.
It is always imperative for the buyer to do ask QUESTIONS, lots of questions, before ever taking a new puppy home. Play with a puppy , spend time talking to the owner, and loomk over the puppy carefully. Take the puppy to your vet ASAP as soon as you bring home the pup. THat is what I did:) My breeder also was very good and wanted to keep in touch, left the communication open with me. ANd made certain that I had not been around other dogs , exposing her puppies to anything . :thumbup:

It is also very important that whatever breeder you choose health tests the parents to make sure they do not pass on any genetic conditions to their puppies. That is usually one way to differentiate between a backyard breeder and a reputable breeder as byb's are all about profit and cut costs.

By health testing, I don't mean a wellness check by their vet. All breeding dogs should have bile acids tests to screen for liver shunts, orthopedic examinations to make sure they don't have luxating patellas, eye exams, thyroid panels, etc. One only has to read the Health and Emergency sections here on YT to see all the Yorkies who are battling genetic conditions.

It is very important that any prospective breeder be able to discuss genetic illnesses Yorkies are prone to and the steps she has taken to make sure her lines are free from them. She should be able to show you results of bile acids tests, knee exams, etc.

Just remember, many of the "genetic time bombs" may not go off for years. My Lady was perfectly healthy for the first four years of her life. She now has epilepsy, diabetes, hypothyroidism, just to name a few. :eek: That's why a breeder must really know her lines and the background of all the dogs she breeds as they may not show symptoms of disease until after they have produced puppies.

Remember, a backyard breeder doesn't have to be literally breeding in her backyard. Many keep them in darling little nurseries in their homes. Backyard breeders breed pet quality dogs who are not to standard and don't do health testing and genetic screening.

The best way to evaluate a breeder is to look at the YTCA's Codes of Ethics and Conduct and see if a breeder follows them:

Yorkshire Terrier Club of America

TatumsMom 05-11-2009 12:01 PM

I don't think it's fair to say that all breeders with a newspaper ad are bad. Yes, most/some breeders will have waiting lists but depending on the size of the town they live in, their past buyers may not want another dog or interested buyers might not know who to ask to find this breeder.

I also ran into some pretty rude breeders when I checked out the YTCA recommended list. I had everything to offer a puppy (no small kids, own our house, nice yard, etc) and still got some pretty uninterested or rude breeders on the phone. I guess I just didn't connect with the right ones.

I think the best thing is to check out the seller and ask all the right questions when you go to see the pups.

Good luck!

Ellie May 05-11-2009 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by kalina82 (Post 2617479)
i would think buying from the newspaper is the same as buying from the internet, except that the pups in the newspaper live much closer. Either way, i would visit the breeder and the pups. ask tons of questions, play with the mom and dad, check out the breeders house and where she keeps the dogs. if you feel uncomfortable about ANYTHING, do not buy from them. its hard because puppies tug at your heartstrings

:thumbup:
Some reputable breeders do advertise in newpapers just like some advertise on sites like Kijiji. Either way, they need to do pre breed testing, wait til 10-12 weeks to sell, their dogs need to meet standard, etc. You won't know til you call and ask. :)

heatherm0890 05-11-2009 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Ellie May (Post 2617944)
:thumbup:
Some reputable breeders do advertise in newpapers just like some advertise on sites like Kijiji. Either way, they need to do pre breed testing, wait til 10-12 weeks to sell, their dogs need to meet standard, etc. You won't know til you call and ask. :)

totally agree

Romo604 05-11-2009 12:08 PM

It's not bad at all if you are able to go to the breeders house and check out where your puppy is coming from!


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