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rebeccag 04-29-2009 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by nanahas3 (Post 2600695)
LOL I have a purebreed 6 month old yorkie who can get out of a 30 inch high xpen if i dont put the top on it, and he has been able to jump on the sofa since he was 3 months old. He weighs 2lbs 14 oz . I think he is part kangaroo:eek:

LOL!!!!!:lol tears

rebeccag 04-29-2009 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Ladymom (Post 2600347)
The AKC only registers purebred dogs. DNA testing requirements ensure that an AKC puppy is purebred. None of the "alternative" registries require DNA testing which is why there is no guarantee that you are getting a purebred if she has papers from any registry other than the AKC.

Many of the alternative registries only require a couple of photographs and the signatures of two witnesses to register a dog as purebred with them. The witnesses don't have to be veterinarians or experts, either. Your Uncle Fred or the neighbor down the street will do just fine. :thumbdown:thumbdown

That's just wonderful...

rebeccag 04-29-2009 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Ladymom (Post 2600500)
Since the test is designed to be used for determining the heritage of mixed breed dogs, I doubt if the results would carry any weight legally. To date, there isn't a test to prove if a dog is purebred or not.

Whether Ksena is a purebred Yorkie way off standard or a mix, it really doesn't matter as it won't change her appearance. Since the OP saw in in person before she purchased her, I doubt she has any recourse except returning her to the breeder.

Puppies from backyard breeders and pet shops/puppy mills usually grow up to be pretty far from the breed standard.

If the test comes back mixed I think it's safe to assume she's not purebred...:p...I think that if the test comes back mixed then the breeder committed fraud basically. I'm not saying I'd press charges but that's what it boils down to. If she is mixed and true I did buy her it's because the breeder lied to me and said her looks would change etc etc....I'm not returning the dog even if the test does come back 1/2 kangaroo so maybe this is a bunch of wasted time and effort but really, I would like to know. Is her hair really not going to grow???? This is becoming quite commical...I can't stop laughing at some of the responses...very funny, thanks!

rebeccag 04-29-2009 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by QuickSilver (Post 2600506)
Abbey08, I have wondered about that too, and I would be interested to read anything that explained it in layman terms. I sort of know about other ways that DNA can be tracked - for instance, dogs and wolves might have the same type of mitochondria. I believe that these are always passed from the mother in primates (and all other species??), and that's where a lot of information about humanity's origin comes from.

Sometimes I see on Animal Planet that ridge backs are supposedly descended from some type of African wild dog type, or that chihuahuas are from foxes, but that makes no sense to me, since all dogs can breed, meaning that there must be one source species.

It is pretty amazing to look at Thor, a 4 pound yorkie with silver hair, and imagine that his genes came from wolves. Says a lot about the diversity of the genome!

That's so weird, I joked today that she looked like a fox....

rebeccag 04-29-2009 07:38 PM

The vet is going to go over the test with me and the results coming from the lab will be in writing so I think it'll make more sense when simplified....

rebeccag 04-29-2009 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by rebeccag (Post 2600973)
The vet is going to go over the test with me and the results coming from the lab will be in writing so I think it'll make more sense when simplified....

Hey, does anyone want to purchase a Purebred Yorkie? She'll be available on Tuesday....JUST KIDDING!!

bchgirl 04-30-2009 03:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Martin0327 (Post 2600762)
I should have clarified.....I was talking about the AKC because my dog Arizona is AKC registered and I was having the same question about whether she was actually a Yorkie. She just doesnt have the same "look" to her. I had rebeccag look at her and we both agreed about how she looked a little chihuahua-ish.....and I had called AKC about this and that was the conclusion. So technically...what im saying is that I think a dog could actually be AKC registered and not purebred. Im sorry is this is confusing....but your right its all confusing.:)

There are plenty of AKC registered dogs used in breeding that shouldn't have been. It's the reason so many yorkies are so out of standard in appearance...it does not mean they aren't "purebred".

Ladymom 04-30-2009 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by bchgirl (Post 2601114)
There are plenty of AKC registered dogs used in breeding that shouldn't have been. It's the reason so many yorkies are so out of standard in appearance...it does not mean they aren't "purebred".

Amen to that!

If you don't get a puppy from a reputable breeder who is carefully breeding to produce puppies who will grow up to be as close to the Yorkie standard as possible, it's anybody's guess what the puppy will look like as an adult.

Because of their popularity, Yorkies have become a favorite among greeders and the result is a Yorkie prone to all sorts of genetic conditions like liver shunts. Legg-Perthes, etc. who barely resemble the standard set out by the YTCA.

Gigi485 04-30-2009 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by rebeccag (Post 2600975)
Hey, does anyone want to purchase a Purebred Yorkie? She'll be available on Tuesday....JUST KIDDING!!

LMFAO

You are hilarious!

rebeccag 04-30-2009 08:03 AM

Sooooooooooooo mad........
 
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Originally Posted by Ladymom (Post 2601320)
Amen to that!

If you don't get a puppy from a reputable breeder who is carefully breeding to produce puppies who will grow up to be as close to the Yorkie standard as possible, it's anybody's guess what the puppy will look like as an adult.

Because of their popularity, Yorkies have become a favorite among greeders and the result is a Yorkie prone to all sorts of genetic conditions like liver shunts. Legg-Perthes, etc. who barely resemble the standard set out by the YTCA.

I've been worried about health risks with Ksena as well....I thought she was reputable...I tried everything I knew to do. I googled her and found nothing bad and believe me I searched and searched...I even went back and forth with someone who bought one of her dogs and asked about health problems etc etc....she has sort of a web page that has really good reviews on it....I feel really bad about all of this but I did everything I knew to do and I chose to believe what the breeder told me because I couldn't find anything bad about her! The parents of Ksena had huge amounts of fluffy hair on their heads so I really believed her when she said that some dogs hair comes in later than others and that she would have a lot of hair...the hair to the floor. I figured it would cover her tiny head. I have seen Yorkies that have narrow faces with the long hair....I took a chance, I guess, that I wasn't being lied to....I don't want to get mad again so I guess I'll stop there....the breeder lied to me!! She lied to me and lured me to her house with a lie about quality an hour and a half away and then when I question Ksena's appearance she lied to me again....Maybe I am a fool but the breeder is an a** hole!! I have to stop now or I'm going to contact the breeder and go off...I shouldn't even be acting this way but I feel so deceived and angry....:mad::mad:

Jemma 05-02-2009 03:57 AM

Aren't you suppose to find out the results this week? I think? lol, Reading so many posts, I lost track. I think she's a Yorkie, just not well bred. But who knows, she is soooo cute though. :)

rebeccag 05-02-2009 05:45 AM

Ksena
 
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Originally Posted by Jemma (Post 2603967)
Aren't you suppose to find out the results this week? I think? lol, Reading so many posts, I lost track. I think she's a Yorkie, just not well bred. But who knows, she is soooo cute though. :)

Thanks, a friend came by yesterday and they were running and rubbing against her feet and she said she liked the one that looks like the chihuahua...I had to laugh! Anyway, talked to their vet yesterday to find out when I can fix the both of them and vet said hasn't heard back from MARS yet but as soon as they know I'll be the first to hear. Ksena has a shot appointment on Tuesday and Jonah's last appointment vet said by Ksena's next appointment which is Tuesday I should know. I guess there are no guarantees it will be Tuesday but MARS did say 2-3 weeks so it can't be any longer than this week at some point. Hopefully it will be Monday...they start kindergarten class on Tuesday as well so it's going to be a big day. Just wondering, if she is a Yorkie is it possible her hair will grow long at the top? It is possible right? I'm guessing it won't happen but it could right? When I called the breeder after people kept commenting on her looks the breeder said these people knew nothing about Yorkies.....lol....I guess we'll see....

rebeccag 05-02-2009 06:46 AM

Hey, a friend just came by and said his girlfriend has a grooming salon for 22 years and she owns a Yorkie...it's her favorite breed. When I get home later he said to call him and they'll stop by and she'll let me know what she thinks.....

Ladymom 05-02-2009 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by rebeccag (Post 2604064)
Hey, a friend just came by and said his girlfriend has a grooming salon for 22 years and she owns a Yorkie...it's her favorite breed. When I get home later he said to call him and they'll stop by and she'll let me know what she thinks.....

I can't wait to hear what she says!

rebeccag 05-02-2009 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Ladymom (Post 2604065)
I can't wait to hear what she says!

Me too, I just got home so I'll let you know....

rebeccag 05-02-2009 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by rebeccag (Post 2604428)
Me too, I just got home so I'll let you know....

Oh my gosh, the groomer just left and she said basically what everyone else has been saying. She said that too many people are breeding them and there are too many out there that don't look the way they should. She also said not to feel bad because she knows people who have had pups shipped from all over, claiming to have good- even show quality and they are not!!! So she said you just never know....people claim to have great pups and they just don't get it. She also said that I won't know what she'll look like until she's about 16 months because they change. She said obviously her nose is a little bit longer than it should be but not to worry because by 16 months it won't matter anyway....While this is all going on my husband says, oh ya, you have mail in the mailbox.....HELLO!!!!!!!!!! The MARS test came back: I'm going to write word for word what it says.....I'll send this first

rebeccag 05-02-2009 04:17 PM

She is at least in the significant breed category of Yorkshire Terrier....but, I'll write word for word what it says:

The picture below shows the breeds detected in Kasna. The relative size of the breed image shows the amount of each breed detected in our ananlysis. There are also signals from other breeds which are not strong enough to identify with confidence. How can these faint signals occur? There are two possibilities. First, your dog could have mixed-breed ancestors beyond three generations back. A second reason is that our test may not yet cover one of the breeds in your dog's ancestry.

yorkiepaws 05-02-2009 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by rebeccag (Post 2604548)
Oh my gosh, the groomer just left and she said basically what everyone else has been saying. She said that too many people are breeding them and there are too many out there that don't look the way they should. She also said not to feel bad because she knows people who have had pups shipped from all over, claiming to have good- even show quality and they are not!!! So she said you just never know....people claim to have great pups and they just don't get it. She also said that I won't know what she'll look like until she's about 16 months because they change. She said obviously her nose is a little bit longer than it should be but not to worry because by 16 months it won't matter anyway....While this is all going on my husband says, oh ya, you have mail in the mailbox.....HELLO!!!!!!!!!! The MARS test came back: I'm going to write word for word what it says.....I'll send this first

I agree with the groomer. If you look at my dog now she looks so different than she did at a year old. Amazing how they change.

Martin0327 05-02-2009 04:41 PM

Soooo....
 
Percentage wise.....of the breeds it detected, How much Yorkie does she have?? I wish I could see the pic it shows!!! How exciting!!! Am i posting to soon? is there more?? :D

rebeccag 05-02-2009 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Martin0327 (Post 2604584)
Percentage wise.....of the breeds it detected, How much Yorkie does she have?? I wish I could see the pic it shows!!! How exciting!!! Am i posting to soon? is there more?? :D

I can fax it to you if you want...hahahaha!

rebeccag 05-02-2009 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Martin0327 (Post 2604584)
Percentage wise.....of the breeds it detected, How much Yorkie does she have?? I wish I could see the pic it shows!!! How exciting!!! Am i posting to soon? is there more?? :D

It shows Yorkie in the Significant percentage which means at LEAST 50% Yorkie....but it's got to be more than 50% because it basically says the other breeds aren't strong enough to name either because it was over 3 generations ago or because the breed isn't in there data base. Does that make more sense??????? I can really fax it to you if you want or scan and email it????

Nancy1999 05-02-2009 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by rebeccag (Post 2604595)
It shows Yorkie in the Significant percentage which means at LEAST 50% Yorkie....but it's got to be more than 50% because it basically says the other breeds aren't strong enough to name either because it was over 3 generations ago or because the breed isn't in there data base. Does that make more sense??????? I can really fax it to you if you want or scan and email it????

You could scan it and attach it to the thread if you want, like a picture attachment.

rebeccag 05-02-2009 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by rebeccag (Post 2604548)
Oh my gosh, the groomer just left and she said basically what everyone else has been saying. She said that too many people are breeding them and there are too many out there that don't look the way they should. She also said not to feel bad because she knows people who have had pups shipped from all over, claiming to have good- even show quality and they are not!!! So she said you just never know....people claim to have great pups and they just don't get it. She also said that I won't know what she'll look like until she's about 16 months because they change. She said obviously her nose is a little bit longer than it should be but not to worry because by 16 months it won't matter anyway....While this is all going on my husband says, oh ya, you have mail in the mailbox.....HELLO!!!!!!!!!! The MARS test came back: I'm going to write word for word what it says.....I'll send this first

Oh ya, the groomer said she didn't look like a chihuahua but she did look a little different but hard to tell at this age....

rebeccag 05-02-2009 04:51 PM

[quote=Nancy1999;2604598]You could scan it and attach it to the thread if you want, like a picture attachment.[/quo

Okay, I'm on it....

Ladymom 05-02-2009 04:58 PM

Well, I think you have your answer from both the groomer and MARS. Ksena is just a really poorly bred Yorkie, the result of backyard breeding. She is not alone. Yorkies are a favorite among greeders because of their popularity.

Thank heavens you are smart enough to realize she is not breeding quality and will just keep her as wonderful pet.

rebeccag 05-02-2009 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Nancy1999 (Post 2604598)
You could scan it and attach it to the thread if you want, like a picture attachment.

I scanned it but don't know how to add it...my husband said to wait until 1/2 time and he'll do it...

Martin0327 05-02-2009 05:09 PM

1/2 time!!!! LOL!
 
I understood what it said but since it said "the picture below" then I desperatly wanted to see it. I think Im a visual learner...LOL. and by the way something i though was funny....my daughter was watching me type this and asked if I was talking to a Yorkie!!! (cause it says YorkieTalk) She is so silly. LMAO!!!

rebeccag 05-02-2009 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Ladymom (Post 2604614)
Well, I think you have your answer from both the groomer and MARS. Ksena is just a really poorly bred Yorkie, the result of backyard breeding. She is not alone. Yorkies are a favorite among greeders because of their popularity.

Thank heavens you are smart enough to realize she is not breeding quality and will just keep her as wonderful pet.

Yeah, she said almost exactly what you said. Trust me, I would never be part of this problem!!!!! Funny thing is the groomer used to groom my cats years and years ago but I switched groomers because she was always booked...she said just to call her and she'll squeeze me in whenever I want now ;)...she was giving me all kinds of brush and grooming tips....Woohoo!

rebeccag 05-02-2009 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Martin0327 (Post 2604628)
I understood what it said but since it said "the picture below" then I desperatly wanted to see it. I think Im a visual learner...LOL. and by the way something i though was funny....my daughter was watching me type this and asked if I was talking to a Yorkie!!! (cause it says YorkieTalk) She is so silly. LMAO!!!

That is adorable!!! I keep trying to add the pic but I'm doing it wrong I guess...here he comes...

Nancy1999 05-02-2009 05:20 PM

Hit post reply, and under the message board it says "manage attachments" hit this and select the picture from you computer, and hit "upload" it must be a gif, jpeg, jpg, or png file. Wait for that window to close, and hit "submit reply."


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