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04-10-2009, 05:10 AM | #1 |
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| The Yorkie but not as we know it..... This is from a breeders club in the UK Genetic Work Other news Nov/Dec 2006 is that there is a breeding programme under way to ensure the survival of the pre 1920's Yorkshire Terrier. This is organised and supported by our society. It is extraordinarily difficult to find pedigree KC registered individuals who carry the characteristics of the original Yorkshire Terrier. This original gene pool is essential if the breed is to continue devoid of defects caused by modern inbreeding. We are currently in consultation with rare breed societies who have given invaluable help with reference to identifying individuals carrying the correct genes without being close relatives. Shows To complement work on genetics an informal meeting and show took place where pre 1920's Yorkshire Terriers were exhibited. Philosophy The dog should be a healthy, robust individual. The individual should be kept in a practical way as originally intended and without modificatins which arrived later. Females should be able to birth naturally. The dog should of suitable temperament for family life. Standard Setting 1) The overall look should be terrier type with a clear stop where the muzzle joins the head. 2) Ears are folded, where breeding has produced a pricked ear this can be countered by the weight of hair thus producing the typical pre 20's Yorkshire Terrier look. Hair should be allowed to provide cover for the ear but no more. 3) Weight should be over 7lbs and up to 23lbs. 4) The dog should be well built and muscular. There should be plenty of bone. 5)The nose should be black and button like. 6) The leg should be well set on, square and carry the dog forward in an athletic manner with a straight gait. 7)The back should be straight not curved. 8) Tails should be long, well set on and carried below topline with feather. 9) Face furnishings should be of practical length excessive length or shortening must be avoided. 10) Hair on the head, body and legs should also be clipped to practical length. Feather on the legs should be tidy but of suitable protective cover. The hair around the eyes should be trimmed suitably so the dog can see without being impeded. 11)Teeth should have a good scissor bite. 12) The dog should have a happy demenour and give the impression of being an old traditional type of faithful dog. I would prefer the smaller more delicate Yorkie we have now.
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04-10-2009, 05:22 AM | #2 |
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| I know some people like the larger yorkies but I feel breeders should breed to the standard and not some trend. There is nothing wrong with owning a large yorkie but they should be sold as a pet and not bred. Thats my opinion anywway
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04-10-2009, 05:33 AM | #3 |
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| But by the sounds of this, what we have now isnt the standard Yorkie. We have bred what was a bigger dog, into something else, and changed the definition of the "standard"
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04-10-2009, 05:50 AM | #4 |
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| The original yorkies were also ratters and today they are not so their whole purpose has changed. The YTCA has studied the breed and perfected the standard for many years to be how we knowit now. Unless the standard is changed to include the larger yorkies, I dont think they should be bred. That is just my opinion and Im sure some disagree. I think the standard should be the blueprint for the yorkie to be
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04-10-2009, 06:00 AM | #5 |
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| I love that! Jackson is pretty close to a pre-1920's Yorkie then. He is 13 pounds at 6 months, doesn't have a docked tail. He does have pointy ears though. I prefer the size of Jackson to smaller Yorkies and I love his undocked tail.
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04-10-2009, 06:08 AM | #6 |
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| I'm with you Britster...that standard sure gave me the mental picture of a healthy, happy little dog! Not the Yorkies we have today at all. Chachi...given the opportunity there are many Yorkies today who will chase mice, rats, birds or whatever small prey they can find so their entire purpose hasn't changed...it's only been redirected because our lifestyle has changed. |
04-10-2009, 06:16 AM | #7 |
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| My point was yorkies are no longer bred to be ratters.
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04-10-2009, 06:23 AM | #8 | |
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04-10-2009, 06:39 AM | #9 |
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| I personally prefer the Yorkies as they are now, but I just raised this as I wonder if they should ever have gotten to this stage, where they are accessories, handbag dogs, that we dress up and put bows on. Thats not a "dog", its more like a doll, or a child, but thats what Yorkies have evolved into being. And thats why I like Yorkies, because they are small, they can snuggle on my lap, they are so cute, but we have to remember that they are dogs, and they evolved from wild animals.
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04-10-2009, 07:36 AM | #10 |
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| Yorkies and rats My 11lb. 17year old yorkie will sit outside in bakyard at night trying to catch a mouse or god forbid a rat. Everyone has bird feeders which attract mice, squirrels, rats etc. So far she has caught 3 rats, a couple mice and a very large crow. Both her and the crow were speechless and looked at one another as if to say now what do we do. Dog let go and crow took off. |
04-10-2009, 07:52 AM | #11 |
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| Today's standard has changed the Yorkshire Terrier to human's want's and needs. However, even tho they are not Ratter's today it is imbred in them and is still dominant in their makeup. Personally I think the Yorkie should be a bit larger that the 7lb and under standard. If it were perhaps the tinies that we know of today wouldn't be 2lbs but 4lbs. Making this breed not so much at risk for health problems. Once again it's personal opinion. One opinion does not make the other wrong. |
04-10-2009, 08:12 AM | #12 |
YT 1000 Club Member | I wonder if there are pics of them from way back then? I'm going to google it and see what I come up with.
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04-10-2009, 08:23 AM | #13 |
YT 1000 Club Member | Here's an interesting link I found. If you scroll down far enough you'll see a yorkie. It's kind of a cool article. Google Image Result for http://www.dogguide.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/1828_117512538563.jpg
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04-10-2009, 08:29 AM | #14 | |
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04-10-2009, 08:29 AM | #15 |
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| I too, smiled when I read the pre-1920 yorkie description. What a happy little dog, with a purpose for life! Even though I love my little 5 pounder, and the smaller ones are adorable, it almost seems unnatural to keep breeding such small babies. What next a 1 pounder? How cute - it fits in my shirt pocket And don't think for a second that that little 3 lb yorkie with the little fru-fru dress would not love to dig a big dirt hole or kill a mouse. My husband says all the time that he feels sorry for Bonnie because I won't let her be a dog. But I can't because she is too small and I worry that she might get hurt. I do feel I don't let her have any "fun" because I am over-protective. Chewing on a bully stick is no substitute to running free and catching a crow. LOL |
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