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Old 04-01-2009, 09:08 AM   #31
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Ok I feel like a fool for asking, but what is a bounce house? And is she a puppy mill breeder???
People rent them for children's birthday parties etc. They are house/castle looking things that blow up with air by a compressor and the kids can bounce on the floor inside sort of like a trampoline. Little kids love them!
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Thats not the first time Ive seen a bartering proposal on here either. One time someone wanted to trade a diamond ring for a yorkie
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Hmmmm... so, would it have been different if she had posted for sale, bounce houses.. sold them and then bought the yorkies with the money she made from the sale?

Bartering is completely normal. Businesses will barter services, i.e.. when I had my tanning salon I would trade for hair services... and before you say it, I am not trying to compare a yorkie with tanning or apples to oranges but then again, breeding is a business and so are bounce things..whatever they were.

I realize I may be opening up a can of worms once I push submit but this is going to be another one of those posts where everyone jumps on the bandwagon of why and why nots... everyone that followed Emma's post knows what kind of a person that was... but what if someone else on here had posted that... Personally I don't think I would ever barter with Zoe's babies but what if there was a person that you approved of and this person happened to have something that you've been looking at but just didn't have the cash readily available?just being the devils advocate.
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Hmmmm... so, would it have been different if she had posted for sale, bounce houses.. sold them and then bought the yorkies with the money she made from the sale?

Bartering is completely normal. Businesses will barter services, i.e.. when I had my tanning salon I would trade for hair services... and before you say it, I am not trying to compare a yorkie with tanning or apples to oranges but then again, breeding is a business and so are bounce things..whatever they were.

I realize I may be opening up a can of worms once I push submit but this is going to be another one of those posts where everyone jumps on the bandwagon of why and why nots... everyone that followed Emma's post knows what kind of a person that was... but what if someone else on here had posted that... Personally I don't think I would ever barter with Zoe's babies but what if there was a person that you approved of and this person happened to have something that you've been looking at but just didn't have the cash readily available?just being the devils advocate.
If it was someone you knew and trusted you wouldn't run an ad, you do it in person.
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If it was someone you knew and trusted you wouldn't run an ad, you do it in person.
I agree completely if you knew and trusted them.
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There is no way to know if she traded a Yorkie for a bounce house, that would not be in any ad. But as someone else said it was posted that all the houses were spoken for.........
Yes it was! Let me look and see if I posted the wrong link. There were 2 different links.
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I am going to sell them for $1000 each or will be happy to trade for tiny, silk, akc yorkie LOL (one puppy per bounce house

Here you go! One puppy per bounce house! Not one person replied to her but she first posted on 3/2 and then came back on 3/16 to say there were all gone! She must have been getting PM's about it or why would she have gone back to her thread to let everyone know they were all gone?

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I am going to sell them for $1000 each or will be happy to trade for tiny, silk, akc yorkie LOL (one puppy per bounce house

Here you go! One puppy per bounce house! Not one person replied to her but she first posted on 3/2 and then came back on 3/16 to say there were all gone! She must have been getting PM's about it or why would she have gone back to her thread to let everyone know they were all gone?

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http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/off...ml#post2496938
I don't know what to say I just can't imagine.
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Hmmmm... so, would it have been different if she had posted for sale, bounce houses.. sold them and then bought the yorkies with the money she made from the sale?

Bartering is completely normal. Businesses will barter services, i.e.. when I had my tanning salon I would trade for hair services... and before you say it, I am not trying to compare a yorkie with tanning or apples to oranges but then again, breeding is a business and so are bounce things..whatever they were.

I realize I may be opening up a can of worms once I push submit but this is going to be another one of those posts where everyone jumps on the bandwagon of why and why nots... everyone that followed Emma's post knows what kind of a person that was... but what if someone else on here had posted that... Personally I don't think I would ever barter with Zoe's babies but what if there was a person that you approved of and this person happened to have something that you've been looking at but just didn't have the cash readily available?just being the devils advocate.
I would have to agree and disagree with you to some point. Yes, bartering is part of business and I do not see anything wrong with knowing someone and exchanging business with an acquaintance. But you go on line and say that you would give a living thing away in exchange for a toy?

The only reason that I even remembered this post was because of a little controversy in the Rescue Forum this morning. There was a cross post from a Craigslist.com ad from TX that someone (not this same breeder) was willing to trade 2 Yorkies for a Wii game for her kids. People who posted to the thread were outraged and it made me remember this particular post. When I went to look for it I was shocked it was Emma's breeder who was trying to trade a Bounce House for a Yorkie!
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Hmmmm... ... Personally I don't think I would ever barter with Zoe's babies but what if there was a person that you approved of and this person happened to have something that you've been looking at but just didn't have the cash readily available?just being the devils advocate.
I see you're point....I think some of us are thinking with our hearts and forgetting that breeding animals for sale is a business. It just leaves a bad taste in my mouth that there are people who do it out of greed versus people who do it out of the love of animals.

On another note, why keep closing threads on Emma? - it's a healthy debate and it's a public forum - last time I checked the site's title was not "CommunistTalk" - it's Yorkie Talk. It will contain The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly. And obviously, people are still interested in talking about Emma otherwise there wouldn't be more threads created ....and from what I can see one of the MOST VIEWED threads too.
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I am going to sell them for $1000 each or will be happy to trade for tiny, silk, akc yorkie LOL (one puppy per bounce house

Here you go! One puppy per bounce house! Not one person replied to her but she first posted on 3/2 and then came back on 3/16 to say there were all gone! She must have been getting PM's about it or why would she have gone back to her thread to let everyone know they were all gone?

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/gar...ml#post2496936

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/off...ml#post2496938
Yeah i noticed those things too but that doesn't prove that she traded the houses for dogs. Unless she or someone who made the trade speaks up we will never know, so its not right to post on a public forum that she did things we cannot prove.

I totally agree that the situation is fishy and totally messed up if what you suspect actually did happen.

Edit: when i first read her thread on selling the bounce houses i thought she was kidding about the trade because she put a LOL after it. Hell if i was selling something and someone wanted to give me a perfectly healthy papered wonderful little yorkie, i'd probably take it. hahaha
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Seroiusly, is this April fools!?

Poor little Emma, I hope the threads about her stop closing, I really would like to keep up with how she is doing.

Someday we will see this lady on Animal Cops with yorkies and a garage full of jump castles, just wait......
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IMO the outrage over all of this is that many of us have come to YT looking for advice and information about the breed. We tend to forget this is the WWW and anyone can post and hide behind a screen as to who they are and what their true intentions are. We have all meet people here that we consider our friends. I personally have meet some very nice people on YT and even met some in person. So we start to let out guard down and when that happens we all are shocked to learn others true colors. This is were all of the controversy really lies in all of this. We have found out the true colors of some members and it has been a hard lesson to learn.

I didn't know anything about either of the people involved with the Emma thread. We I originally saw the Bounce House for a Yorkie I was shocked and was going to report and question it, but I got busy and distracted but happened to remember it today so I went to look for it. That is when I saw who it was that had posted they would be willing to trade a toy for a yorkie.
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IMO the outrage over all of this is that many of us have come to YT looking for advice and information about the breed. We tend to forget this is the WWW and anyone can post and hide behind a screen as to who they are and what their true intentions are. We have all meet people here that we consider our friends. I personally have meet some very nice people on YT and even met some in person. So we start to let out guard down and when that happens we all are shocked to learn others true colors. This is were all of the controversy really lies in all of this. We have found out the true colors of some members and it has been a hard lesson to learn.

I didn't know anything about either of the people involved with the Emma thread. We I originally saw the Bounce House for a Yorkie I was shocked and was going to report and question it, but I got busy and distracted but happened to remember it today so I went to look for it. That is when I saw who it was that had posted they would be willing to trade a toy for a yorkie.


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