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Donating YT 10K Club Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: S. W. Suburbs of Chicago, IL
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| ![]() http://www.kennelspotlight.com/THEY_...K_SWAHILLI.pdf First off here is the link to the article. It is pretty long so I would like to cut and post a few of the more eye opening comments written. I am sitting here with my mouth hanging open after reading this! ![]() ![]() “Puppy Hell”, written by Mary Van de Kamp Nohl. This article appeared in the Milwaukee Magazine [Milwaukee Magazine: Best in Milwaukee & Wisconsin - Restaurant, Events, Doctors and More and click on puppy hell] and featured Wallace Havens, starting with his early history, following him through to his establishing himself as “the father of the designer dogs”. His Puggles breed is his chief claim to fame, landing him in the eye of Marie Claire Magazine, The Wall Street Journal, [front page], and the New York Times Magazine plus an appearance on CBS “Sunday Morning”. He is a past board member of NAPO and an outstanding credit to the High Volume breeder community. OR, Or, as Ms Nohl would have you believe, and she has done an excellent job of presenting her list of facts to supplement her argument, Mr. Havens is the devil reincarnate. She criticizes almost everything about the man. His kennels are better than most of us but not good enough for her. His care for his animals is better than any humane shelter, but not good enough for her. He is willing to help any breeder to better their operation, even to founding the breeder club in Wisconsin, but therein lies a fault in her eyes. He is helping the kennel industry grow and is upgrading those he comes in contact with so as to better fight adverse legislation. She is also very much annoyed with the Amish and Mennonite people who have moved into Wisconsin to escape the harsh laws handed down by Governor Ed Rendell of Pennsylvania. Do not forget that name. He is your enemy. He owns two dogs making him twice as knowledgeable as ex-Senator Rick Santorium, co-sponsor of the PAWS bill which was defeated a few years ago, but is now being re-introduced as the PUPS bill by Illinois Senator Dick Durbin. Are you not glad we have all these experts telling us how to run our business? It would seem that these Lancaster County transplants do everything wrong. It seem these gentle men of the soil, whose heritage goes back several hundreds of years of working with animals must consider the dog an animal and not a pet and therefore obviously they are not qualified to raise dogs in Wisconsin without the help of the Wisconsin State Legislature, who needs to be advised by Ms Nohl and her Humaniac friends. And so, we now get to the crux of the story. We do not speak the same language. We speak agriculture. They speak humaniac!! Their definition of animal cruelty is based on “Where would mama’s little snookums like to sleep tonight, with mama in her bed or on the expensive feather pillow in snookums bed?” Our definition is based on adequate food, water, and shelter in a kennel with 100 to 1000 dogs. Their thoughts are that every dog needs picked up and kissed, half the time in the mouth. Usually right after they just licked their butt or ate their pen mates poop. An animal rights judge in New York once ruled that a dog was not an animal, he was a companion. Now, I love dogs, BUT they are not equal to my grandchildren. My dog sleeps on a pillow in the garage. Dogs are my animal of choice, but they were not superior to my cows, horses, or pigs. I felt the same conviction to care for all my animals equally. I went to Cal Poly to earn a B.S. degree in Animal Husbandry. There I was taught to produce food for Americas table, as economically as possible. I was offered a job by the Argentina Dept. of Agriculture to use that knowledge to help them to also use American technology to streamline their methods of production. The things I learned and did under the guidance of the instructors at the university would land me in jail under the new definition of “animal abuse”. I learned to rope a calf, tie it, brand it, castrate it, dehorn it, vaccinate it, delouse it, untie it and watch it run back to it’s mother in less than 5 minutes. I learned to catch pigs, stick them head down into a funnel and castrate them, notch their ears according to the formula for identification, snip their baby teeth and cut their tails, all in one smooth, fast, and economical operation. I learned to debeak chickens, butcher turkeys, break horses, etc. etc. and I used all of these skills when making my living in farming. I used various skills from my animal husbandry classes to raise dogs. To me, the dogs had it made compared to other farm animals. So, please excuse me if I do not spend much time worrying about mama’s little baby and where it wants to sleep. A dog is a dog, that’s an animal. He is entitled to basic care of medicine, food, and shelter. Whatever other special entitlements you wish to heap upon him is your privilege, but I want you to quit trying to shove your ideas of humane care down my throat. *There is more to this article but this alone is enough to make we want to hit someone! ![]()
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| ![]() Ugh, disgusting.
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What this IDIOT doesn't even understand is that he is NOT providing those basic entitlements, not even in the ballpark - no Miller is providing it. If he wants to call me a Humaniac, I will wear that title proudly. Because given his impression of what it means - which is believing in being humane - it is one I'm proud of.
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| ![]() Wow. ![]() I read what you posted, and I am now going back to read the entire article - I guess to upset myself??? The more I think, the angrier I get - clearly he has not seen any of the puppymill videos if he states that the stacks of cages with excrement dripping down do not exist. Although, he does go on to say, so what if it is true??? I guess I am a proud Humaniac!
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♥Love My Snuggle Bugs♥ Donating Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Missouri
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| ![]() Humaniac and proud of it !!!!! How would he like to live in a small shelter with 100 other people very little food and no bathroom or bedding ![]() |
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I ♥ Joey & Ralphie! Donating Member | ![]() They're pretty good at twisting everything around to back up their point. Unfortunately, the ignorant will believe his drivel.
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| ![]() Unfortunately, there are many of him in this world. He calls this agriculture????? Do we eat dogs now? Oh please...I cannot stand this stuff. If I say what I really think of this guy, I will be banned from YT for life. grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
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Resident Yorkie Nut Donating YT 20K Club Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Texas
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| ![]() I can't even talk right now after reading that. I am so mad. ![]() ![]() ![]()
__________________ ![]() ![]() Rest In Peace my precious Gracie girl & Lucky buddie ![]() ![]() Dogster:http://www.dogster.com/dogs/382659 & http://www.dogster.com/dogs/497315 Last edited by Rudys Mom; 03-10-2009 at 05:31 PM. |
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I wear the title proudly and do not care what title they give. It will all come down in the end. I hope all those lost babies are their to watch.
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| ![]() That writer is delusional. Google "puppy mill" and tell me it doesn't exisit. What a moron. |
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