I just wanted to say that if i was a new yorkie owner and i came her for help i wouldnt want to be called an Idiot for doing so :(

One of my very first post on here was about one of my babies being sick, No it was not an emergency but i did want to get some opinons and see if anyone else
maybe had the same things happen or knew what i was referring to, I think most know when its a true emergency
but sometimes we come for comfort and support, alot of new members who have never had yorkies before are not sure what to do at times, so they come here and ask for help, Were not going to help if they feel bad for asking :( they will leave and then what good is will come from that.

Of course you know what is causing your dogs seizure. We are talking about a person who have never had this happen. This is what Global Paws has to say.

Some seizures are followed immediately by another seizure, and these clusters of seizures are called status epilepticus. This condition is a medical emergency and you should take your dog to your vet as soon as possible for aggressive treatment. If you are able to time your dog's seizure and it lasts longer than 5 minutes, you should also take your dog immediately to your vet for care.

Any time your dog has a seizure, you should call your vet or the emergency clinic and describe what you have seen. Your vet will probably ask you about the type of seizure, the length of the seizure and general questions about your dog's history. Depending on the situation, your vet will advise you to bring your dog in immediately or to monitor your dog at home.

Like your dog, most pets that have a seizure seem to recover completely within a relatively short period of time. Even if this is the case, you should consult your veterinarian to determine the cause of the seizures and whether treatment is necessary. If seizures are not controlled, they can become more severe and more frequent.

Once at your vet's office, your vet will probably ask you more questions about your dog's history and will most likely recommend blood work to try to determine the cause of the seizures. If the results of the blood work and other tests show that the seizures are secondary to an underlying metabolic or liver problem, the treatment is directed at correcting the primary problem in order to allow the seizures to resolve on their own.

If your vet determines that the cause of the seizures is a problem inside the brain, such as epilepsy, he or she may choose to start your dog on anticonvulsant therapy. The most common anticonvulsant drug used in veterinary medicine is oral Phenobarbital, usually given once or twice daily. In many cases, Phenobarbital greatly reduces the frequency and severity of seizures in dogs.
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Coming from a fairly "newbie"....NO, I can NOT believe it! Some peoples posts have left me sitting here with my jaw dropped! Not only do they come to the forum before seeing their vet, but sometimes they are posting daysss after the medical issue has come up! This is neglect in my opinion.

I :love: YT. I've been an active member on MANY messageboards over the past few years, and this one is my fav :thumbup: You are a caring, kind hearted group of people. You've all been extremely helpful to me, and I appreciate it :)

Thank you for this post. Get so tired of hearing how nasty the 'old-timers' are.

I agree with you there, if it has been DAYS, the pet is still ill and they are just now taking thier pets to the vets, then it is neglect.
Most of the newbies that post on here are quite young or first time pet owners and may not now what to do. Thats why they ask. Im sure not one of you while you were young, never asked anyone for help right??? How would you feel if you were told that you were a 'idiot' and had no 'common sense' when all you did was ask a question?? Why is that section even there?? Most of you feel that everyone who post in that section should already no what to do in an emergency and if your pet was sick? Gee, seems to me that its just wasting vaulable space. :rolleyes:

And that's why I :love: Shaunna!!

:thumbup: You took the words outta my mouth girl! I have stayed away from this thread and this is all I will say. Wonder how long till it gets closed :p

I think this thread has gone completely off topic as they sometimes tend to do....I believe the OP was referring to a TRUE emergency. An emergency as in a dog choking or swallowing poison, a dog that is suddenly seizing that has never done it before, a dog that is bleeding from the rear or vomiting blood, a dog that has been unresponsive for days, etc etc. Those need attention now....

We oldsters are clearly not implying that a person should never ask questions or try and get opinions from others who have gone through the same situation. We welcome them and we like to give our experiences. I've seen some very informative info coming from these members.

It's understandable to post first when it appears to be something minor, as in a rash, not eating, a limp, or torn nail, etc.etc. Pretty much use the same common sense we would use as in evaluating the concerns of our children....

I agree with you 100%. In all my time on here folks have always been willing and able to answer question after question by both newbies, not so newbies and even old timers. They don't even get frustrated when it's a question that has been asked in a million other posts but the person rather post the question vs searching. This happens to be a hot as hell topic because time and time again people with seriously real emergencies try to do the webmd or rather the yorkiemd thing than seeking professional help. I know many of the old timers are refusing to post because people want answers but don't really want to listen..so that is why words are thrown and tempers rise. I think as a whole YT is a great place and very educational.

Of course this is just my opinion :D
but maybe the nasty/unkind comments are coming from people that have seen alot of abused and sick pets due to owner ignorance or neglect...if u are dealing with pets that have been abandoned daily it gives u a different outlook on the situation of someone coming to a blog for information for a sick pet..

Of course in my opinion also,:D
There seem to be many people getting pets and not knowing much about having a pet at all... just seeing it as cute... not knowing or understanding the responsibility of a pet..this is why it is better to buy from a reputable breeder that will work with the pet owner and also many will take back the pet if the owner has a problem they can not handle...

I have also, noticed since joining this site many people are breeding and actually come on this site to see what they should do when their little one is giving birth...now to me this would be kind of silly ..the breeder should find this out prior to the pet being bred and work with a mentor prior to this situation ...

I guess when we read comments on this site we have to take into consideration where they are coming from before evaluating it ..each one at this site has different opinions and insights and we have to respect those as well ...some may be positive and some may be negative..
but i do think most are made with the best interest for the pets...:animal-pa

Good Post:thumbup:

Good post. I know that the zealousness that you see on her at times is right on because as a good friend of mine always says..."it's all about the babies and nothing more". The die hard members it's always about the pups and their welfare. So that is why in frustration at times they just can't fathom some of the things that are being or rather not being done.

As a really new newbie, I have not found mean or nasty people here at all. What I have found, are people deeply concerned for the welfare of animals. Animals are not tools in your shed to be fixed once a year. They are living breathing loving creatures given to us to care for. When someone treats them like an object, that is for their benefit, it makes me mad! If your mother was not breathing correctly would you go onto a website to find out info.... or would you take her to the doctor?
If you have to think about this one... you don't need a pet!

I ABSOLUTELY agree!! I wouldn't even go to a vet site. I would go to the vet's office or emergency hospital. Many people have years of experience, on this site, but are not vets. Any suggestion should always be verified by your vet.

I agree 100% with that..Good Post!:thumbup:

WOW I very much regret starting this thread!! I certainly did not mean to step on anyone's toes. I love this Forum and have received so much wonderful advice so I would never want to see anyone discouraged or afraid to post regardless of the inquiry. I really meant that it would have to be an OBVIOUS emergency when a vet is required. I am afraid to start any new threads now so I sympathize with those afraid to post.

why ????
this thread was not meant to hurt anyones feelings !
it is just differences of opinions..there is a lot of good information on this site and some GREAT YT members to consult with.. some have a lot of knowledge on yorkies due to their experiences over the years with them...can not take it all personally.
u ask what u like within reason get the answers u can and those u do not like ..just forget about it !
i find most of the YT members are nice and most of all compationate about yorkies :)
Thats why we are here for the YORKIES !

Don't worry about it.....I knew exactly what you meant, some others took it to the extreme and wanted to believe you meant not to post with any health questions...I've been on this board a long time and seen many threads run off into a ridiculous direction, it's nothing new......Sometimes I wonder if there isn't something in the water.....

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I'm way late to this thread but I just wanted to comment on this post. I'm not sure who you are referring to but I know a while back a friend of mine posted a video of her baby having a seizure. He had been having these little attacks and she had taken him to the vet several times over it- as soon as the first one happened. She had no idea what was happening. She was having a very hard time explaining what was happening to her vet- these weren't grand mal, much more subtle but trust me, she was scared to death. They only lasted a few minutes- not long enough to get him to the vet while it was happening. She took the video for her vet to see what was happening and posted it here for second opinions. Anyway he is being treated for them but she had him at the vet from the beginning.

I know this seems OT at this point in the thread but since it was mentioned several times I just wanted to clarify. I know it would kill her to come on and read this because her babies are her life- they are her children and she does nothing short of the best for them. Again, no idea who specifically you were referring to but since I thought of my friend right away I'm sure she might think you were referring to her also.:)

ETA- oops, I obviously didn't read all 8 pages before posting and I see this is being talked about. Off to read like I should have before posting.

Being a relatively new Yorkie owner myself I can understand why some people post here when their dog is sick and they are not sure if it's an emergency. They just do not know how quickly things can go downhill with puppies or small dogs. Some of the things that I now know would be an emergency ( after reading alot on here) may not have seemed like that to me before.

Yes , common sense is required. If my dog is in a serious state of decline such as being badly stepped on , having a seizure etc. I would be on the phone with a vet or driving to clinic ASAP....

I know cost is a factor , especially in today's troubled economy. For some that don't have the up front money to pay and the clinics wont work out payments with them , they may feel this is their best / only option for advice and help.




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I too knew exactly what the OP was saying...and I agree. It was the subsequent posts that bothered me. And Joan how exactly does a person take a seizing dog to the ER vet without "touching" it??? Sounds like a contradiction to me.
Nikki, I think I know who you are talking about, and I for one thought her idea of videoing the episode was brilliant. Plus, if I'm not mistaken, it did help her vet in diagnosing her baby. So, anyway, people...be kind with your words...because others like me can take your comments personally.

Just because someone states an opposite opinion doesn't mean it's "ridiculous" or anything. It's just an opinion and we all have the right to state it. Sorry, but I'm not going to sit around and agree with everyone else. If I have an opinion on the subject, I'm going to state it. I know personally I didn't say anything wrong but was told that my posts on this subject were nonsense anyways just because it was different from someone else's opinion. I think everyone just needs to learn to be civilized and hear the other side of the story too even if they don't completely agree. That's the beauty of human nature... we're all different and unique in everything including opinions.

Ok I wanted to ignore what you said but to answer your question and of course you know the answer because you have a dog that seizures all the time.:confused: A person would be making sure the dog is not near stairs but other than that, is on the phone to the emergency and then get the dog to the vet. Geeeez !! I stated before my opinion and it's mine.
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If this thread is ending, I think it would be nice to end with this post which so many of us liked. :thumbup:

Wow, what a hot topic! One that has unfortunately brought out both the best and the worst in some of us. I too like mscat am disabled and live on a fixed income. So, I am careful about taking Molly to the vet as I cannot afford (unnecessary) large vet bills. However, she has had her shots and will be spayed soon. Her spaying I am giving serious thought too only somewhat because of my fear of anything going wrong- like a reaction to the anesthesia as she is small. So, I am deciding on "when", not "if". In the meantime, she is never alone outside so that no accidental mating or anything else can occur.
But, I can say that I have learned a lot from everything that I have read on here. Years ago my parent's one miniature schnauzer had problems with colitis; so when he would periodically have that problem, my mom would cook rice and chicken for him to eat. So, I know that rice is good for diarrhea, however, I didn't know that pumpkin was also good for it until I read about it on this site.
I also know that cooked eggs are good for dogs too.
But, I do have to agree with some of you that I have read some posts where I too wondered what was wrong with them that they didn't at least call a vet's office?
There are some people who do seem to lack common sense. Not only with their animals but with human children as well.
But, rather than pointing out their faults, whether in a kind fashion or otherwise, I also believe that we shouldn't make people afraid to post either. We would best serve our other yorkie friends, lovers, owners and canines by providing them with an answer to their question. Whether that be by simply advising them to "get thee to a vet posthaste" or an answer to their question if you happen to know the answer or where they can go to find the answer. That being said, I think I will leave well enough alone. :animal36

This is what we need...:ghug:

Ditto.

A member shouldn't judge how another handles emergencies. There are so many caring,helpful people on this forum and many people are directed here for that reason. (I ,personally, have had true emergencies and my instincts led me racing to the ER.) Lets be respectful of other members asking for advice.:ghug:

I just wrote a reply to a newbie and told her to stay on Yorkietalk because everything I learned about yorkies was here. It hurts to think people can be so hurtful to each other when I know how much we all love our yorkies and other pets. I did take my pregnant yorkie to my vet and they didn't know anymore about a c-section than I do because the vet that performed c-sections was out of the office. So, yes this site can save babies.

Jan:)