Gina - I have no intention of checking your posts. this is not about you or me. I was merely making a point that I'm sure you have asked questions in the past. And you are more than welcome to find a vet in my area that accepts partial payment. Good luck with that.

Carol - I agree, if you go up to my originial post It includes this "HOWEVER, I do agree that there are lots of cases where you really need to use common sense and recognise when its an emergency."

I think people are getting wrong impression. I am not condoning that people spend endless amounts of time online while their pup should be at the vets, I was merely explaining why I Believe it is happening. Check my original post.

I just hate seeing bashing and name calling going on when people don't have the right to judge. Who knows why people do the things they do when they are in a state of panic. You are not nessessarily in the right frame of mind at the time. (take that video, yes its sick to us, but maybe the owner was recording it for educational purposes or to show the vet what exactly was happening. siezures happen frequently in dogs, and you don't rush your dog to the vet for every single seizure, thats impossible. The dog may have already been on meds, had been to the vet that morning, we just don't know, so how can we jusge? Would I personally video tape it? No. but Who knows what their reasoning is) but not to get off track here

we need to keep doing what we do and that it letting people know that YES that is serious , please call your vet. Theres no need for flaming.

To be honest 30mins isn't that far. My vet is 24mins from my home.
My point being, why waste time on the internet when you could be
driving to a vet! Everyone will have different opinions, that's natural,
these are mine. An emergency does not belong on the internet unless
there is no other recourse. Talking to someone can be very helpful,
your not alone but that only should be IF there is no other choice.
That's not what the OP ment I don't believe. There have been more
and more threads on dire emergencies. That was the topic.

they should not own a dog then.i would empty my entire bank account if it ment saving bailee
my point is, i dont want to make people wary of posting if it is thier only option...sometimes it is just not possible to contact a vet and in that case YT is probably your best option out there due to all the experienced people...by all means a vet should come first...does anyone get what im saying here? lol

As we see on a thread like this people get very sensitive when it comes to the health of their pets and rightly so..... :D

If you have ANY question concerning the well-being of you dog that may threaten its health in any way it's your responsibility to have a professional look into it These pups are in your care
and they need you to be vigilant in their protection and caring for their health

While a forum can be helpful in answering questions
It is in NO WAY a replacement for getting answers from a Vet

That being said ... I don't want people shying away from posting medical questions because sometimes what you think might not be a potential problem ... someone else may pick up on and tell you what it is

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I understand and some have one car and the husband is at work and has the car.......there are exceptions but when you get a dog there are things you must know that will take immediate attention and have something in your mind as to how you would handle it. Every case is different and we are not talking about you and yet I would have a talk with my vet tomorrow about how to handle an emergency when he is not available. If he says go to the one 1/2 hr away, ask him how he can expect that be done when every minute counts.

Oh I see your point and agree. I think some dont have emergency vet access or dont have the resources to take them to an emergency vet. I really dont have a problem with people posting on here except when they say they dont want to spend the money on the vet. I have seen it more times than I can count on my fingers

See that was one of my original points. Many people don't realize that somthing could be very serious with these little babies and so they ask online. No reason to get flamed for it.

ok...im glad you get what im saying lol...money should be something you think about when getting a dog and circumstances do come up which is sometimes inevitable but I have been saving since I knew i was getting my balilee last july for an emergency...thanks chachi :)

I don't think we should be upset with anyone on this thread, we all have strong feelings about saving our yorkies.

If an owner doesen't think their pet having bloody diahrea three-four
time a day, throwing up blood three or four times a day or
their yorkie thrusting itself around on the floor in a seizure is an emergency, than that person does not deserve to be a pet owner. You don't have
to go to college to have common sence. This is an emergency,
go to a vet.
As usuall this thread is being turned around and around dissecting
each and every answer to the bone.
No matter how you put it, an emergency is an emergency.
This has nothing to do with requesting information on your Yorkies health.
The emergency thread, I am sure, was not for diagnosis or mis-diagnosis .
It was ment to be helpfull to all but not in a dire emergency.

I have seen very few people who posted an emergency get flamed. Unless they just didnt want to pay for a vet. Most posters are very sympathetic and givve the op info about care credit and other organizations that will pay for emergency pet care

Sometimes people don't realize it's an emergency and it really is. The other day I posted here about Smokey shaking like crazy and acting strange. I didn't know what to do and it ended up being nothing, but it could have been something big. Or the other times Chip was so sick with vaccine reactions? Is that so wrong that I posted there? Am I an "idiot" or "irresponsible"? No, I think not. I'm just someone who wanted advice from someone who had been there, done that kind of thing.

no your not an idiot or irresponsible........the post you made was very sensible in my book.

we don't have an emergency vet clinic in our area either, but i do think we can call our vet after hours.......not sure because i'm in a very small town. your right Ashley about what you said.

some people don't recognize an emergency and they come on here for help. and when you say go to the Vet........then they should do it.

I was mainly talking about this thread, emotions were getting a bit high and name calling was happening, and I'm afraid people will stop seeking information and help for fear of being called names and other hateful things

There is no post in this thread that said "It's now obvious" no one wants
to help! That's a terrible thing to state, no one said any such thing.
Again, words being spoken that were never said.
We are taking about a dire emergency and why the vet should be the
first person called. That's all! Please don't put words out there that
were never spoken because another poster will come along read what
you just said and go with it. Before you know it this thread will be closed!
It happens everytime because people do not read.
Bye, I"ve had enough.
Hope all your pups remain healthy and happy.


P.S. No one called you an idiot or irresponsible.
To be honest if it were I and Buddy was shaking like crazy and acting
strangely,I would have been off to the vet. Why? Because my first thought
would have been he ate something poisonious. Nothing around but
you never know. That's me it dosen't mean you were wrong at all.
And yes that's YT is here to help other's. I guess like everything else
an emergency is different to different people.

my sentiments exactly Ashley

thats right, i never called any one person an idiot.. all im saying is
pls be responsible thats all....

I can only speak for myself and usually ask for opinions/help if it is a minor situation, such as poop eating. I have asked for opinions/help after seeing a vet and their recommendations not working. For example: Deegan was losing weight and had bad diarreha for days and once I took him to the vet (3 times) and finally got a diagnosis, either vet in the office still didn't give me the proper medication. Deegan weight did stabalize, but he wasn't gaining any back and I was really nervous so I decided to do some research on my own and low and behold I stumbled upon an EPI Yahoo Group. I also found one for Trooper's LS too. And to be honest - those people have been a god send!!! Their the ones who recommended me put Deegan on another med and in two days he gained 3/4 lbs back and is progressing so good!!! Basically it boils down to me kinda losing faith in some of the vets around here. If it weren't for the groups I wouldn't have learned the stuff I needed to to help get my babies back to health.

Actually I don't know what you're talking about... but okay. Whatever. And I never said anyone specifically called me an idiot or irresponsible, but those words have been used in this thread to describe some of the desperate posts of people. I was asking if I am in the same category because I came here for help to. I mean, I thought that is what a forum was for... so people could talk about their dogs and seek advice. I must have been thinking wrong apparently since people are blatantly complaining about it. And when people post threads or post in threads complaining about people that post in certain forums, yes that does make and induction that some people don't want to help.

I never said you or anyone else specifically called me specifically an idiot... I was making an example...

I dont think its because people dont want to help but more that we are unqualified to help in some of these emergency situations. A good example is the pup that got stepped on and ended up dying because they didnt get it to a vet in time

I somewhat disaggree.

I know I'm "new" here....but all I can say is WOW! I've never seen such a rude group of individuals in all my life!
I love my dog, try my very best to keep her healthy and happy...that's one of the reasons I joined this board. But, since joining I've seen time and time again where people are made to feel like trash because of a question they ask, the food they feed their dog, how often they leave them, where they take them, etc. It's crazy!
I guess it's like parenting, some think they know it all and are perfect. My philosophy is...I do the best I can and LEARN from asking questions. I'm new at this, do not make all the money in the world (therefore cannot afford to spend THOUSANDS in vet bills), but I love my dog and that should be enough!
Flame me all you want...I just had to speak my mind and let you know some of you are WAY over the top.
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I think it goes both ways. . . . WE shouldn't start calling each other names and what not. You have to understand both sides. I'm a first time yorkie owner to and if I had a medical problem (not life and death) with my baby I would post it here because there is some very good advice that people give here on YT. And when you are paging your doc waiting for him to respond why not do a quick thread (if you haven't notice people on YT do reply FAST!) . . . BUT for those whos dog is shaking like crazy or choking or whatever . . . I don't understand why they didn't rush to the ER but they might have their own reason.

So believe it or not. . . . people can and will post whatever they want.

just my opinion. . .

Obviously, I answered your post before you edited it!
Again, what an emergency is to one person does not mean
it's the same to another. Everyone on here want's to help in
whatever way they can. You know it and so do I.
Stop with the nonsence!

Yes I did edit my post because I did realize I typed without thinking, but what you quoted didn't say that in it... so again... confused. And I NEVER said it's obvious NO ONE wanted to help. What I said is that it's apparent SOME people don't want to help.

It's not nonsense. It's my opinion and I have a right to have it and state it. I'm not saying anything wrong I'm just saying that it is intimidating to a lot of people when they see threads of people complaining about them posting about their sick dogs and seeking advice.

all i could say is after almost 10,000 posts from me and plenty others here,
i think we have helped alot of people here and still intend to.

Amen to that Gina.
That's what's it's all about.:thumbup:

I'm on the fence with this one. The economy is bad and some of the newbies are just asking for an opinion. That I don't mind, but when people ask for help then don't follow any advice their given then I get mad.

Would it be better if these people weren't asking questions at all?

I don't look much in the Emergency thread, so maybe I'm missing the posts that are upsetting people so much. BUT, from my limited perspective, it seems to me that as long as people are trying to learn how to care for their pets, they should not be judged.

Thor's previous owner told me she went to the vet four times because she didn't understand what reverse sneezing was. I'm not sure why the vets didn't tell her, but she spent hundreds and hundreds of dollars on a question that she could easily have had answered here. So I think it works both ways. Reverse sneezing sounds horribly scary, but usually does not merit a trip to the vets office. Yes, maybe it seems like some people lack common sense, but if that's the case, are they supposed to magically acquire it? If you don't know, ask a question. That's my philosophy.