Biewer vs Yorkie
 

What is the difference?? Are they actually two different breeds? I have seen things that say they are Yorkies, and other things say they are a different breed.... :confused: I am confused.

from my understanding (only from reading this forum) they are now considered thier own breed.

I don't think that can be answered at this time with the information, we have, and there is still a lot of debate among the Biewer breeders, I believe there are three different clubs. The Biewer started in Germany with one family breeding them, and it is said that they bred two standard yorkies; some people argue this point, and believe since they also bred other dogs, perhaps there was an "accident." Biewers are definitely closely related to Yorkies, but whether or not they have some other breed mixed in with them remains to be seen. DNA testing at this time only gives us enough information to "indicate" several things, not to prove things. Several members here have Biewers, and I've read that they are more laid back than traditional yorkies, which makes me lean slightly toward thinking they might have another breed mixed in with them. Personality traits are inherited just like physical traits. Because they originated in Germany, Biewers don't call for the docked tail, which is standard in the United States for Yorkies. They would like to be able to register with the American Kennel Club, as a separate breed because, I believe, that's the only way they can get into the AKC club. Since they are a relatively new breed, finding a good breeder becomes very difficult; many newbie breeders have jumped on the bandwagon, and since they can't be registered with the AKC as yet, some unscrupulous breeders are advertising all sorts of dogs as Biewers. If you are thinking of obtaining one, it would be wise to read all you can about them, they have a very specific spotting pattern; they are not just a multicolored Yorkie, and of course find the best breeder you can.

Only one club (there are 4 clubs in total in the US) believes this is a separate breed and are not Yorkies. I do wonder why members of that club come on here to sell/market their non-yorkie dogs....aren't they breaking the rules?:rolleyes:

So, is there a size difference? As a pet, would there be much difference? I am going to do more searching on them...

They are basically the same size, according to one club the standard is 4-8 pounds, for Yorkies, it's 7 pounds and below. The Wikipedia link has some good informtion, and seems unbiased. It also has some links to some of the clubs. Biewer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

:thumbup: great informative post.. thanks :)

Just so you know this information can be posted by any dog club. In this case most of it is posted by the BTCA so it would be their philosophy that is posted.

So, what is the difference between a Biewer and a Parti?? Is it just the specific markings on a Biewer?

Yes, I understand that, but you can also post your views as well.

Hmmm until another club removes it.:(

There are tons of threads about this and in most cases they become heated but you will learn more than you wanted if you read some of these threads. My recommendation is to to use the search button and type in Parti and read some of these threads. You can then read threads on Biewers and draw your own conclusion.

The Parti is a Yorkshire Terrier that is white multicolored, with no specific marking. They are considered a color fault by the Yorkshire Terrier Club of American, and they frown on their purposeful breeding of dogs that aren't to standard. They are allowed to be registered by the AKC, but aren't allowed to be shown, since they don't meet breed standard. They follow the same rules for standard, besides the coloring, as other yorkies, including the docked tail. Here again, you have to be careful with finding a breeder because many newbies who want to make a fast buck, are taking advantage of the Biewer's popularity, and breeding Parties.

Nancy1999 is right about Wikipedia being unbiased.

The situation on wikipedia got out of control when a certain member from another club erased every bit of information the BTCA, Inc. had posted. Wikipedia was informed and they went in and posted what they felt was an accurate presentation of the breed.

Wikipedia removed who they felt needed to be removed.

Interesting post,maybe you can share with us how many paying members your club has and the reason why the BBCI dropped the Yorkshire Terrier and now changed the name to Biewer a la' pom pon.