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k9trainer 01-18-2009 10:00 AM

I still have to tell her breeder. Honestly, i had forgotten to do so. I will make the call this evening.

I dont know how i am going to tell the people at the Nursing home that she is gone:( Chloe is a theropy dog for the eldery and sophie waould come along with us and was going to becaome a registered theropy dog. I dont know how i can bear telling them.

GroomerKiera 01-18-2009 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by k9trainer (Post 2424935)
These retrievers have been around MY dogs before. That makes it even more heart breaking:(..Only a few times though.

groomerkiera, Your post makes me kind of Angry.. To say that they didnt have excersize or training when you do not know their owner is wrong. They did. Like somebody posted before.They are wild first, then demestocated. I am glad i am being educated here and I have learned alot from reading everybodies posts. I cant believe that you think goldens attacking is an unusual occurance:confused: Retreivers still have a prey drive even though they are retrieving animals. What makes them get up and go when an animal is shot and they have to go get it. They have to have some sort of drive for that dont they?

Hi Honey, I am SOOO sorry for hurting you, in no way was I trying to. My heart is with you.

* They dont have a prey drive, they have a retrieving drive with soft mouths.

I have been an animal behaviourist for 11 years and have been training dogs for over 20.

Yorkies are very delicate and can be harmed easily of course, but in Sophies case, imo very well trained dogs would have been on a down-stay and not moved. She should have not been any threat and couldve been allowed to jump all over them and growl etc. Goldens arent independent thinkers like Yorkies. They DESIRE to have a person to tell them what to do, and live to obey, Goldens who would fight or be unruly most likely dont have adequate training, because they prefer direction and alpha owners. Whereas Yorkies are independent thinkers, and while they love us, they have their own ideas and will pursue whichever benefits them best.

It is also important to note that Yorkies can be nervous dogs which can make other dogs attack them. Dogs communicate in many ways, by body posture/language, show of teeth, telepathically etc. Noise being the least used. It is probable alot of communication happened in very little time without your being aware, and with her size she didnt have a chance. All of us with small dogs worry about this.

PS Perfectly kind people have unruly dogs and dogs that need more training. I wasnt insulting the owners, but it is unfortunate that this happened. Training saving lives.

I hope you find peace with your sorrow, and have good friends and family to help you through this.

hugz4all4 01-18-2009 10:06 AM

Im so sorry :(

shirlblack 01-18-2009 10:08 AM

I am so sorry for your loss. RIP little Sophie.

MauiGirl 01-18-2009 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by k9trainer (Post 2424951)
I am sorry. But I hope you do understand where i am coming from. I hate these 2 dogs. And it is wrong for me to hate the breed, But right now, i do. After I deal with this loss. I may feel differently. But right now, I loath this breed. And i hope you can understand that. I know I am not thinking logically right now.

My heart goes out to you. I can't believe you have to live with this nightmare and the horrid final memories of you beloved Yorkie.

I am also sorry that people feel a need to defend the offending breed or educate everybody on dog behavior, right or wrong, at this very sad time for you. I hope others will simply join in giving you all our sympathy, thoughts and prayers at the loss of you furfbaby, as we do with all the others here on YT who lose a pet. You are hurting, sad and angry, and trying to make sense of it all, and all I want to do is send you hugs of comfort. You are in my thoughts and prayers.

GroomerKiera 01-18-2009 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by k9trainer (Post 2424951)
I am sorry. But I hope you do understand where i am coming from. I hate these 2 dogs. And it is wrong for me to hate the breed, But right now, i do. After I deal with this loss. I may feel differently. But right now, I loath this breed. And i hope you can understand that. I know I am not thinking logically right now.

I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND. I will never trust, nor own, German Shepherds (although many are lovely dogs) after one ripped out the neck of a horse of my friend I was riding with. And although pit bulls are some of the sweetest dogs alive...the sheer fact that they are physically capable of killing almost anything, makes me always have my guard up no matter how much I love them.

Trixter 01-18-2009 10:12 AM

What a terrible thing to have happen to you. I'm so sorry for your Loss. Extra hugs and kisses to your little Chloe. I'm sure she senses your sadness as well as her own.

yorkiesmiles 01-18-2009 10:14 AM

I am so sorry for your loss.

I am also sorry that this thread is becoming a debate about breeds, etc. I'm sure this is not what you need at this time

May you have time to grieve. My prayers are with you :hands:

Yorkiekids 01-18-2009 10:14 AM

I'm so sorry for your loss.

k9trainer 01-18-2009 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by MauiGirl (Post 2424993)
My heart goes out to you. I can't believe you have to live with this nightmare and the horrid final memories of you beloved Yorkie.

I am also sorry that people feel a need to defend the offending breed or educate everybody on dog behavior, right or wrong, at this very sad time for you. I hope others will simply join in giving you all our sympathy, thoughts and prayers at the loss of you furfbaby, as we do with all the others here on YT who lose a pet. You are hurting, sad and angry, and trying to make sense of it all, and all I want to do is send you hugs of comfort. You are in my thoughts and prayers.

Thank you so much. That was very sweet of you :)

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Originally Posted by GroomerKiera (Post 2424994)
I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND. I will never trust, nor own, German Shepherds (although many are lovely dogs) after one ripped out the neck of a horse of my friend I was riding with. And although pit bulls are some of the sweetest dogs alive...the sheer fact that they are physically capable of killing almost anything, makes me always have my guard up no matter how much I love them.

I love pittbulls from afar. I would never own one, Because i know i wouldnt be aable to handle the dog right or train it right. I like GSDS, my dad grew up with them, But i wouldnt own one. My dad has seen what they are capable of. His family had alot of money and always had a guard dog on their property.

Im sorry about your terible experiance. Im sorry bout the horse:(

PiePiper 01-18-2009 10:51 AM

I\'m so sorry for the loss of your Sophie. Years ago I had a mini poodle. My next door neighbor raised Alaskan Malamutes. One day she was walking with one of her males off leash and she came into my yard to talk to me. My male poodle was playing in the yard. I started walking towards my dog to scoop him up but she said don\'t worry he won\'t hurt him. Those words no sooner left her mouth when her malamute ran over to my poodle and scooped him up. She let out one sharp command DROP IT! He dropped him but he did hurt him. One bite was enough for a collapse lung, shock and many stitches. Luckily my dog survived but after that I never trust large dogs with my small ones.

MyLadies 01-18-2009 11:02 AM

:cry8: I am so sorry. :( How awful!!

MissSophie 01-18-2009 11:34 AM

I am so sorry. We have always wanted a golden, and now I am afraid of any bigger dog around my baby. My heart goes out to you.

jfalz73 01-18-2009 12:14 PM

OMG..what an awful thing for your poor Sophie to have had to endure. And even more horrific that you were so helpless to defend her. I pray that God will ease the pain and anger that you feel so that you will be able to be left with your wonderful memories of her in your heart and mind...God Bless..RIP Sweet Sophie:rbyorkie:

deb22 01-18-2009 12:22 PM

I am so sorry.....RIP...Sweet baby....


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