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Dog experts get hot under the collar About dog coats. Animal welfare experts hot under the collar over dogs in coats - Telegraph Well yes but what do I do with two shivering cold dogs, when their is -6c outside for their walks?. |
It does say there are exceptions for small dogs with thin coats. I tend to asgree, it is over done, and mainly done for the people and not the dog. |
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Larger dogs with thick coats can withstand frigid temps but we even see them in sweaters and coats when they are out for walks. Our friend, who has a big Lab, always puts boots on her when she goes out in the snow. Otherwise, her pawpads get chapped and cracked. I think that any caring, well-informed pet owner would not be so stupid as to endanger their pet's health for a "fashion statement". Of course, that's just my opinion! :rolleyes: |
Someone please explain to me how a dog sweater, coat, shirt... whatever... can lead to bad behavior? :confused: I understand that definitely most dogs don't need the extra layers, but our precious little yorkies do in cold weather! |
Apart from my little yorkie getting cold, sophie is a chunky jrt cross shivers with the cold. |
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I think the author was drawing a correlation between over-indulgence and bad behavior. The extensive wardrobes is a symptom of over-indulgence....lack of rules, boundaries and discipline. I personally don't agree with the author's conclusions. And I am absolutely one who "over-indulges" my girls...probably a good thing I don't have kids too!! :D |
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All I can say is "whatever". The once every ten year snow here, Nolee was shivering with his lil coat on. I do agree, some dogs don't need clothing, but our lil yorkies sure do! |
I am NOT a dog expert, but I do know that when we get out our go-fetch pj's in the evening, Shelbs & Sey come running and actually poke their heads in the collars of them without a second thought. They LOVE to be toasty warm in the evening and they sleep like ROCKS....... nice and warm. :p |
I havent noticed any behavior difference from mine when they are dressed or not dressed |
I only dress one, and you know, she does act differently when she has a dress on, she gets more obnoxious now that I think of it, I never put the connection between the 2.:rolleyes: |
I'm sorry, but if I am feeding, housing and picking up poop for the dog, he can wear a cute jacket for me. Also, I really don't think dogs experience social embarrassment the way people do. I can see the point of clothing being uncomfortable, but a dog does not care how "stupid" it looks. That's part of the joy of dogs! Thinking otherwise is MASSIVE projection of human experience onto another animal. Also, when dogs get too hot, don't they, you know, pant? I'd think anyone with sense would take a jacket off a dog that's panting. |
This is the most stupid thing I've heard, Maybe they should start writing articles about people leaving there dogs outside in the cold or puppymills,animals being ABUSED,Petstore's. No they have to pick on people that put coat's on there dog's in the COLD. |
related article: Animal Rights - Change.org: From the Experts: Stop Dressing Up Dogs; To the Experts: Stop Saying "It" From what I understand dressing up your dog can mask important smells that other dogs pick up on. I've seen dressed up dogs at the dog park - seems like they are always the ones to get picked on! :P I don't dress up Lexi, she doesn't like it too much. It get's pretty cold here, but like I've said before in other threads. She doesn't mind the cold! :) If she did mind the cold - I wouldn't hesitate on putting on her sweater. |
Dogs do get embarrassed in their own way. When I used to first put clothes on Tootsie, if she were on the couch, she would turn her back to me and wouldn't even look at me. When Mom had to start putting a belly band on her older dog before he died, if she called them his diaper, he would go sit in the corner and pout, so, when she changed it to your big boys pants, then he was okay with that. Dogs are funny and do get embarrassed in their own way. |
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I think it's really easy to project our own expectations onto dogs, particularly because their faces are not as expressive as a human's. If we don't give our dog a treat, we imagine that it is looking at us sadly, reproachfully, accusingly, etc. When my guess is, the dog is thinking "I want a treat." Dogs that are missing eyes and/or limbs still frolick around without a care in the world. Dogs don't think that they are ugly or fat, or, in my opinion, poorly dressed. It's just not part of their make up. |
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this was on wikianswers, you have to scroll way down to bottom of post for answer http://site2.wikianswers.com/templat..._q.gif?v=36882Do dogs get embarrassed? In: Dog Behavior [Edit categories] [Edit] http://site2.wikianswers.com/templat...y1.gif?v=36882 http://site2.wikianswers.com/templat...1b.gif?v=36882 [Edit] http://site2.wikianswers.com/templat..._a.gif?v=36882 Answer Yes, in fact some dogs can get very embarrassed such as you scolding them in front of company you may have over. They will generally put their tail between their legs and wander off and some may hide under couches or lay on their bed |
another good site about dogs and embarrassment, jealousy, etc :: WILDFOREST Pet Care & Responsible Pet Ownership :: Care2 Groups |
To me, that is different. There is some evidence that dogs feel guilt, and possibly shame. However, I don't believe there is anything credible that indicates that they have fashion sense. Even if they did, why would they have the same as ours? To use the shaving example, why would a dog think it looked worse shaved, even if you happen to? Why would all the other dogs share that opinion? I mean, HUMANS don't all agree about fashion, why would dogs? |
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Sure, I agree. However, couldn't your dogs simply have been put off simply because he looked different to them? Or picking up on your own emotions? |
I don't really dress mine here in Florida, but I have to say if I get one done, and not the other there's a major sniffing situation around here. |
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To each their own, but I dont believe in dressing up dogs. I have had several dogs in my 53 years and currently have 3 little ones, 2 yorkies and one Maltese, and none of them like clothes. I dont know that I believe it leads to bad behavior...that seems silly but I dont think its healthy either. I live in Ohio and it gets pretty cold here too, but none of my 3 will wear coats. I never would dress them up any other way, but coats seemed reasonable. They will absolutely not walk with them on...Ive tried several different types and they just refuse to move, so I gave up. We walk everyday no matter what the weather and I never notice them shivering...in fact they seem more energized in the cold weather. |
I put a jacket on Suzi , and their are no problems. If you start out early, the dog gets use to wearing clothes. I do not think their is anything wrong with dressing a toy breed . :aimeeyork |
Teddy crawls under the blankets to sleep, all the way under. I dont force him under he digs himself under.. clearly they need the jackets to stay warm and blankets too :) |
I just don't see a dog feeling "silly" because he has a coat / sweater on. If they didn't like the jacket I would tend to think it's more a matter of how the coat feels to the dog ( hindering movement , unusual , stiff) more than how the dog feels he looks in it. He may not like it but I don't think it's embarrassment he is feeling. I think it's very egocentric to assume that animals must feel things the same way we do and for the same reasons. Chloe is 2.5 lbs. and I will put a coat on her when it's cold and we go out for a walk.I guess she will just have to take the chance of being giggled at by the other dogs in the neighborhood as she walks by :rolleyes: |
Obviously there are limits. I don't like it when people treat dogs like sentient accessories, but if they need to be warm, why not let them be stylish? Thor is super-sensitive to the rain, and the cold, even here in San Fran. He's definitely a fair weather dog. I actually have not found any clothing yet that changes his mind about the weather. I wonder how warm his clothes can be anyway, since his paws are on the ground, and his butt and belly are exposed for obvious reasons. His former owner was very into dressing him up, so he's pretty mellow about being dressed. I am hoping that if I can acclimate him to boots and get him an adorable little rain jacket that I can at least convince him to go outside in the rain. It rains a lot in this city! |
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