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jdonica 10-05-2008 07:42 AM
Thinks for all the help guys! I think I'm going to email and just ask if this pup is a splitter. I have found lots of wonderful Biewer websites, just not any in my area. Right now, I am just enjoying my Harley whom I've only had for a couple of months but I eventually want to get him a friend!

Jeri and Harley:aimeeyork

phil tillmam 10-05-2008 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by jdonica (Post 2267801)
I have been doing some research on Biewers and would love to get one a little later down the line. I ran across this ad and this pup doesn't look alot different than Harley. Most of the pups I have seen are almost all white with just a little black. Could someone tell me if they think this is legit or misrepresentation?

Jeri and Harley

5 Month Old Yorkie Needs New Home - Nashville Dogs & Puppies For Sale - Kijiji Nashville, Tennessee
I have six Biewers myself and I would say this is more than likely what is called a F1. Not a good price for a F1 and the additional $500.00 for breeding right is also unreasonable.

jdonica 10-06-2008 10:03 AM
To all of you that helped me with this thread, I just wanted to let you know that I did email the seller and ask if this baby was a splitter pup. She didn't know what "splitter" meant but told me the breeder labeled this pup as an F2 Biewer. Said dad is full biewer and that mom was gold, I'm assuming black and gold. Also said that if this pup was bred with another biewer that it would produce full blooded biewers? Not sure how that is genetically possible!

Jeri and Harley:aimeeyork

bchgirl 10-06-2008 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by jdonica (Post 2270319)
To all of you that helped me with this thread, I just wanted to let you know that I did email the seller and ask if this baby was a splitter pup. She didn't know what "splitter" meant but told me the breeder labeled this pup as an F2 Biewer. Said dad is full biewer and that mom was gold, I'm assuming black and gold. Also said that if this pup was bred with another biewer that it would produce full blooded biewers? Not sure how that is genetically possible!

Jeri and Harley:aimeeyork
F2 means a second generation breeding. You won't necessarily get biewer colored puppies from breeding a splitter to a biewer though. The splitter still has the dominate gene to offer. It is totally possible to get biewer colors and standard colors in one litter.

The term splitter is a commonly known term in the biewer world.

Tnyorkiemom 10-06-2008 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by bchgirl (Post 2270351)
F2 means a second generation breeding. You won't necessarily get biewer colored puppies from breeding a splitter to a biewer though. The splitter still has the dominate gene to offer. It is totally possible to get biewer colors and standard colors in one litter.

The term splitter is a commonly known term in the biewer world.
you explained that very well..

some do not understand that a biewer is still a yorkie....just that they carry the pie bald gene....if you have their DNA done it still comes up yorkie....

also the gold that was mentioned may be the golden gene carrier....

cesar49 10-06-2008 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by jdonica (Post 2270319)
To all of you that helped me with this thread, I just wanted to let you know that I did email the seller and ask if this baby was a splitter pup. She didn't know what "splitter" meant but told me the breeder labeled this pup as an F2 Biewer. Said dad is full biewer and that mom was gold, I'm assuming black and gold. Also said that if this pup was bred with another biewer that it would produce full blooded biewers? Not sure how that is genetically possible!

Jeri and Harley:aimeeyork
only biewer to biewer is a purebred biewer.. but if the pups look like a biewer, they register them as biewers.. you can tell by looking..
she should not advertise him as a biewer without saying that he is a splitter.
is she a broker? she said she is not the breeder? brokers are not a good thing.. but it might be a great puppy.. i would go see for sure in person:aimeeyork before buying him..

Snow Yorkies 10-08-2008 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by cesar49 (Post 2271059)
only biewer to biewer is a purebred biewer.. but if the pups look like a biewer, they register them as biewers.. you can tell by looking..
she should not advertise him as a biewer without saying that he is a splitter.
is she a broker? she said she is not the breeder? brokers are not a good thing.. but it might be a great puppy.. i would go see for sure in person:aimeeyork before buying him..

Really Ceasar? And I am sorry but who told you this? The breed origin, Germany, still to this day registers by color, not by biewer to biewer breedings. Look to the registry history from Germany.
Just because people in here is the US decided to change the whole concept on what a biewer is doesn't mean it so.

The picture I seen is no Biewer, sorry. I have to agree with everyone else it might be a F2 as explained in other posts or as the breeder responded to the question.

xxmxaxrxyxx 10-09-2008 06:50 AM
he looks like either a yorkie or a maybe a parti gene carrier due to the white chest and chin like my Kioko...but don't take my word for it...heeh


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