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PANAMA69 08-07-2008 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by pookiebear (Post 2165777)
I saw this woman on the Today Show this morning. Booger had saved her life from a dog attack some years back. She actually had to have her arm amputated and put back on because of this dog attack. So obviously Booger meant a lot to her because of that. After the attack incident Booger became he became her service dog helping her with chores. So because Booger meant so much to her she sold her house to raise the $100K to have Booger's DNA inserted into the surrogate mother somewhere in South Korea. She plans to keep all five dogs and train them to be service dogs.

To clone or not to clone. I'll leave that up to you guys. I do like Sammiz's idea about the movie though! Get to writing Sammi.
Wow I din't know about the attack my internet web page didn't say anything about that, what a wonderful dog he was, I understand now why she wanted to do this, but my question is: does that mean that the puppies will have the same character disposition of the father? humm sorry for my ignorance, I don't know much about cloning, just curious about that;)

Yorkiedaze 08-07-2008 06:28 PM
I've been on here off and on all day and this is the first time I saw your post or I would not have posted the same thing. Sorry. :(

Nancy1999 08-07-2008 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by PANAMA69 (Post 2166975)
Wow I din't know about the attack my internet web page didn't say anything about that, what a wonderful dog he was, I understand now why she wanted to do this, but my question is: does that mean that the puppies will have the same character disposition of the father? humm sorry for my ignorance, I don't know much about cloning, just curious about that;)
The puppies have no father except what would be the cloned animal's father. For example if someone cloned you, the genetic make-up would be the same as your genetic make-up, and so I guess you could say your mother and father would be the clone's mother and father genetically speaking.

lulababy 08-07-2008 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by PANAMA69 (Post 2166975)
Wow I din't know about the attack my internet web page didn't say anything about that, what a wonderful dog he was, I understand now why she wanted to do this, but my question is: does that mean that the puppies will have the same character disposition of the father? humm sorry for my ignorance, I don't know much about cloning, just curious about that;)
i think what you mean is will it have the same personality as the previous dog, right? i dont think so.. personality develops from a mix of environment and genetics.. i think this puppy will proabbly have a compeltely different upbringnig so it should have a different personality--not dramatically or anything though I dont think.

ladyj 08-08-2008 05:08 AM
I don't know about South Korea, but you'd have lots of trouble selling folks on pit bulls as service dogs around here. Cloning gives me the creeps. I think it would be like having the dog's ghost around, looks like the dog, maybe sounds like the dog, but isn't the dog and couldn't possible be exactly like the dog. Creepy!

pookiebear 08-08-2008 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by ladyj (Post 2167962)
I don't know about South Korea, but you'd have lots of trouble selling folks on pit bulls as service dogs around here. Cloning gives me the creeps. I think it would be like having the dog's ghost around, looks like the dog, maybe sounds like the dog, but isn't the dog and couldn't possible be exactly like the dog. Creepy!
That was my thought exactly. Who in their right mind would want an unpredictable pitt bull for a service dog. They can love you one minute and hate you the next. Those five puppies will not have the same personality as Bugger. It's impossible. They will all develop differently because of their environment. For $100K I'd hire a butler, and buy a Yorkie!

tinav 08-08-2008 06:05 AM
Cloned animals or anything would have be the same as twins in that they would "still" be two "different" "personalities" who "might" look a like.


Why do we give birth if we were meant to clone?????:confused::(


Tina

DvlshAngel985 08-08-2008 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by tinav (Post 2168079)
Cloned animals or anything would have be the same as twins in that they would "still" be two "different" "personalities" who "might" look a like.


Why do we give birth if we were meant to clone?????:confused::(


Tina
GOOD POINT!!!

Wylie's Mom 08-08-2008 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by tinav (Post 2168079)
Why do we give birth if we were meant to clone?????:confused:
And, for the sake of argument - this begs flipping the question: why do we have the ability to clone if we can give birth?

It's interesting because, at one time, the following things were also considered immoral/unethical: organ transplants, blood transfusions, vaccinations, autopsies, artificial insemination, etcetera. And the moral/ethical arguments/outcries were similar to those today that surround stem cells/cloning.

I don't think I have enough information to take a stand on cloning, but like I said earlier - I certainly hate to think of another industry that results in animal cruelty. I would have to understand the real benefit of cloning. I DO understand the benefits of stem cell research.

DvlshAngel985 08-08-2008 10:02 AM
Females Only!!!
 
Thought this would be interesting to post here. It turns out that there is a lizard named Cnemidophorus neomexicanus, or the New Mexico Whiptail Lizard, where they are a female only species. In order for them to reproduce, one female climbs on top of another female and pretends to well....you know, and that stimulates the production of eggs. Essentially, they are all clones!!! Some have theorized that there once was a male of this species, but the genetic material for producing male reduced in size until the male just became extinct!:confused::confused:
Imagine a world with no boys......HOW BORING!!!!:D
I know it's a bit off topic, but it still concerns genetics! (sorry if it sounds a bit nerdy, I can't help it!!;))

Wylie's Mom 08-08-2008 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by DvlshAngel985 (Post 2168649)
Imagine a world with no boys......HOW BORING!!!!:D
GAWD, who would we complain about? :p

PANAMA69 08-08-2008 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Nancy1999 (Post 2167596)
The puppies have no father except what would be the cloned animal's father. For example if someone cloned you, the genetic make-up would be the same as your genetic make-up, and so I guess you could say your mother and father would be the clone's mother and father genetically speaking.
Humm interesting, thankyou for the info:animal-pa

PANAMA69 08-08-2008 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by lulababy (Post 2167611)
i think what you mean is will it have the same personality as the previous dog, right? i dont think so.. personality develops from a mix of environment and genetics.. i think this puppy will proabbly have a compeltely different upbringnig so it should have a different personality--not dramatically or anything though I dont think.
Yeah right that was exactly my question, very interesting, thankyou Lula for the info:thumbup:

PANAMA69 08-08-2008 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by DvlshAngel985 (Post 2168649)
Thought this would be interesting to post here. It turns out that there is a lizard named Cnemidophorus neomexicanus, or the New Mexico Whiptail Lizard, where they are a female only species. In order for them to reproduce, one female climbs on top of another female and pretends to well....you know, and that stimulates the production of eggs. Essentially, they are all clones!!! Some have theorized that there once was a male of this species, but the genetic material for producing male reduced in size until the male just became extinct!:confused::
Imagine a world with no boys......HOW BORING!!!!:D
I know it's a bit off topic, but it still concerns genetics! (sorry if it sounds a bit nerdy, I can't help it!!;))
No boys:eek:I can't imagine my world with out my hubby:(, my brother:(, my cousins....:D;) I love nerds:p:thumbup:

DvlshAngel985 08-08-2008 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom (Post 2168680)
GAWD, who would we complain about? :p
That's so true! If they were gone, who would we guilt into doing things for us???? Or buy us presents???:p


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