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mrlmonroe 07-22-2008 08:28 AM

Hi,

I agree, don't confront the owner. No doubt they will have major attitude, and tell you it's their dog and butt out!

I would call the animal control, tell them your concerns, let them sort out if this is abusive........they will appreciate the call. They are the experts. They will probably take a drive by, maybe drop in on them......

But I would call them pronto..........you've been assigned by the universe the task of helping this little one because it was brought to your awareness......so don't feel bad, make the call, and let the outcome be in the hands of the professionals.

My thoughts.............. good luck!

Yorkiedaze 07-22-2008 08:30 AM

If that guy acted on some of the suggestions made here about "dognapping", he could get shot. Remember, he said there was a big dog chained up as well. That big dog could very easily start barking at him if he came on the property. Lets hope he found a safer solution to getting that little Yorkie out of that situation.

crb 07-22-2008 08:36 AM

Just read the thread and was hoping to find an update at the end. Did he/she come back from the walk?

Ellie May 07-22-2008 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Yorkiedaze (Post 2129650)
If that guy acted on some of the suggestions made here about "dognapping", he could get shot. Remember, he said there was a big dog chained up as well. That big dog could very easily start barking at him if he came on the property. Lets hope he found a safer solution to getting that little Yorkie out of that situation.

:thumbup:
I'm very surprised that so many YTers are telling the original poster to break the law.

It is sad for the Yorkie but it doesn't matter what way you look at it. If you take something of someone elses without their permission, you are stealing and it is a crime.

So if I disagree with a parent on how they are raising their child, I should just go over there and steal the child instead of calling the authorities?

amanda350 07-22-2008 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Ellie May (Post 2129684)
:thumbup:
I'm very surprised that so many YTers are telling the original poster to break the law.

It is sad for the Yorkie but it doesn't matter what way you look at it. If you take something of someone elses without their permission, you are stealing and it is a crime.

So if I disagree with a parent on how they are raising their child, I should just go over there and steal the child instead of calling the authorities?

If the child is chained up 24/7 in the front yard, free game for any predator, and the child protective services says that as long as the child has food, water and shelter, there is nothing they will do, then I say yeah, go get that child....

Ellie May 07-22-2008 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by amanda350 (Post 2129890)
If the child is chained up 24/7 in the front yard, free game for any predator, and the child protective services says that as long as the child has food, water and shelter, there is nothing they will do, then I say yeah, go get that child....

But that wouldn't happen. Of course child protective services would take a child in that state. Not everything is so clear cut. Large dogs are chained up like that all the time. It is more dangerous for Yorkies but it is still within the law.

upindust 07-22-2008 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by ctvol (Post 2128016)
Hello, I'm new to the board and I have owned a Yorkie for eight years and I was one of those people that made fun of these little lap dogs until I got one and now I am the one that people make fun of! :) Until you have a Yorkie you just don't know how wonderful they are. This dog is litterally my child and I could not imagine life without him! He has also helped my wife through some pretty tough times.

Anyway I have a question. I have noticed a little Yorkie down the street from me that has been tied up all summer to a line that lets it move about ten feet or so and it has been one hot summer here in Tennessee. It breaks my heart everytime I go by that house and see that little thing either laying on the ground or going back and forth in a kind of figure eight pattern. Am I overreacting in thinking that these types of dogs should not be treated this way and cannot handle that kind of treatment as a larger dog? So many times I have thought about going up there in the middle of the night and taking the dog and finding it a better home. Of course I would not do that as it is wrong not to mention illegal. Does anybody have any suggestions on what I should do or am I just being too sensitive to the issue. I have thought about calling the Humane Society but I am not sure that the owners are doing anything wrong. Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

call the humane society because he could have a heat stroke oh yeah and not all yorkies are lap dogs lol mine is too big for it but he still tries(when I sit indian style he overflows in my lap lol

donnarod 07-22-2008 10:59 AM

Please Help? Maybe I'm Overreacting?
 
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Originally Posted by Jeri Cunningham (Post 2128052)
I'm the kind that would never steal from a store, work, or anywhere else but a Yorkie outside all the time. I would take him in a minute without thinking twice! Anyone that leaves a yorkie outside is crazy and should not have the dog.

You will feel even worse if the poor baby ends up dead and you didn't step in.


Me too, steal it. I would call animal control and report it first.

upindust 07-22-2008 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ellie May (Post 2129684)
:thumbup:
I'm very surprised that so many YTers are telling the original poster to break the law.

It is sad for the Yorkie but it doesn't matter what way you look at it. If you take something of someone elses without their permission, you are stealing and it is a crime.

So if I disagree with a parent on how they are raising their child, I should just go over there and steal the child instead of calling the authorities?

a child is a bit different. They're human beings therefore are in a whole other slew of rules and regulations where as animal laws are still being formed and reconformed. I know my Yorkie can't stand to be in the heat more then 5-10 minutes. he will literally race for shade and even then he can only withstand so much heat. His coat it seems like it absorbs the sun and he has a short cut.

Ellie May 07-22-2008 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by upindust (Post 2129923)
a child is a bit different. They're human beings therefore are in a whole other slew of rules and regulations where as animal laws are still being formed and reconformed. I know my Yorkie can't stand to be in the heat more then 5-10 minutes. he will literally race for shade and even then he can only withstand so much heat. His coat it seems like it absorbs the sun and he has a short cut.

There are still laws in place though and dognapping is stealing.
I don't even leave my Yorkie outside unsupervised. I think it is a very bad idea but I don't think breaking the law is a good way to go about this.

bchgirl 07-22-2008 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Ellie May (Post 2129938)
There are still laws in place though and dognapping is stealing.
I don't even leave my Yorkie outside unsupervised. I think it is a very bad idea but I don't think breaking the law is a good way to go about this.


Agree and am always amazed when people suggest it.

amanda350 07-22-2008 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ellie May (Post 2129938)
There are still laws in place though and dognapping is stealing.
I don't even leave my Yorkie outside unsupervised. I think it is a very bad idea but I don't think breaking the law is a good way to go about this.

So lets say he calls the humane society and they tell him that as long as the dog has food shelter and water there is nothing they can do.. Then what do you suggest he does?

upindust 07-22-2008 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ellie May (Post 2129938)
There are still laws in place though and dognapping is stealing.
I don't even leave my Yorkie outside unsupervised. I think it is a very bad idea but I don't think breaking the law is a good way to go about this.

so youd rather the dog run a severe risk of heatstroke and death? I don't steal, never have but I will help a person or animal survive even if it goes against the law.. because food and water won't always prevent death.

Ellie May 07-22-2008 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by bchgirl (Post 2129943)
Agree and am always amazed when people suggest it.

I really feel like I'm missing something here.:confused:
Since when is it okay to tell someone to commit a crime?
I'm glad I'm not alone.

Ellie May 07-22-2008 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amanda350 (Post 2129945)
So lets say he calls the humane society and they tell him that as long as the dog has food shelter and water there is nothing they can do.. Then what do you suggest he does?

If all laws are being followed and nobody will do anything about it, the original poster could always ask if he could have the dog and explain why it is wrong to leave him/her out there. Beyond that, there is nothing he can do.

Ellie May 07-22-2008 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by upindust (Post 2129950)
so youd rather the dog run a severe risk of heatstroke and death? I don't steal, never have but I will help a person or animal survive even if it goes against the law.. because food and water won't always prevent death.

If the animal was truly abandoned that is a different story (as in no owners). That would be the same with children. If animal control in the case of animals and child protective services in the place of children has checked out the situation, I would feel terrible but I would feel that my hands were tied.

If we all went out tomorrow and stole every dog that we found that wasn't treated just right, it would be anarchy.

bchgirl 07-22-2008 11:47 AM

Since the OP has never returned with an update...perhaps they are waiting for someone to raise their bail to get out of jail on theft charges.

upindust 07-22-2008 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ellie May (Post 2129973)
If the animal was truly abandoned that is a different story (as in no owners). That would be the same with children. If animal control in the case of animals and child protective services in the place of children has checked out the situation, I would feel terrible but I would feel that my hands were tied.

If we all went out tomorrow and stole every dog that we found that wasn't treated just right, it would be anarchy.

well maybe she could get some information on heatstrokes and various things and leave it in the owners mailbox. Maybe they aren't educated on what the heat can do to the dog.

..by the way there will never be true anarchy.. ever. Someone always wants to be the leader and make up the rules.

Sunnie 07-22-2008 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by bchgirl (Post 2129998)
Since the OP has never returned with an update...perhaps they are waiting for someone to raise their bail to get out of jail on theft charges.

hahaha sounds like apossibility... but hopefully it forced the owners to act and get that dog inside

Ellie May 07-22-2008 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bchgirl (Post 2129998)
Since the OP has never returned with an update...perhaps they are waiting for someone to raise their bail to get out of jail on theft charges.

So true.:(

I think I am going to sop posting on this thread now.
Hopefully it gets deleted.

MyPeanutAbbyGra 07-22-2008 12:08 PM

I really want to hear what happened to the dog that is left outside.

There's no sense in arguing about this, it won't change the outcome. The person will hopefully do the right thing...whatever that is. I just hope the little yorkie will be taken inside.

ctvol 07-22-2008 06:42 PM

OK I am back! No I haven't been arrested. Yet! Last night the power was out and I was posting using what battery life I had on my laptop and using my Blackberry for my internet connection. My laptop battery ran out and we did not have power until this morning. Then I had to go to work and never had time to post.

Anyway I am sorry to keep everyone waiting and man I can't believe all the responses. I did take that walk and I have to say that I did not see the Yorkie outside this time. Maybe they had enough sense to bring it in during the storm. I did however see it tied up on my way home tonight afer 9:00 pm. Since it was not out last night I think I really need to keep a close eye out and see how often it is on that line. I am thinking about going up there in a few minutes too see if it is still there.

I am still torn on what to do. Like a couple of people said, if I confront the owner I'm sure they would tell me to mind my own bee's wax so that is really not an option. I have a son and I can't stand it when somebody tries to tell me how to raise him. I also don't think that much will come out of having animal control look into the issue because the dog does have shelter and what I assume is food and water. I did fail to mention that it is under some tees and has some shade so that helps. I know deep down that this dog does not belong outside for as long and as much as it is. I put my Yorkie on one of those corkscrew stakes for a half hour or so when I am outside working in the yard or washing the car but I am constantly checking on him even though he is in plain sight. Just like I did when my son was young.

For some reason just like yesterday I noticed the dog going back and forth in kind of a figure eight tonight. I don't know if that is some sort of hyper or nervous action. That does look odd and worries me. I do feel a little bit better that I did not see it out there last night. I feel like I really need to monitor it a little more before making a decision. I want to tell my wife about it and she has never seen it because she does not go the same way I do from the house but she is so soft hearted it will make her cry for days. I'm all alone on this one so that's why I came here to find some help. I will keep everyone updated. Once again thank you to everyone for the response. You have found a new member and I am going to tell my wife about this site.

KNoelleV 07-22-2008 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ctvol (Post 2131026)
OK I am back! No I haven't been arrested. Yet! Last night the power was out and I was posting using what battery life I had on my laptop and using my Blackberry for my internet connection. My laptop battery ran out and we did not have power until this morning. Then I had to go to work and never had time to post.

Anyway I am sorry to keep everyone waiting and man I can't believe all the responses. I did take that walk and I have to say that I did not see the Yorkie outside this time. Maybe they had enough sense to bring it in during the storm. I did however see it tied up on my way home tonight afer 9:00 pm. Since it was not out last night I think I really need to keep a close eye out and see how often it is on that line. I am thinking about going up there in a few minutes too see if it is still there.

I am still torn on what to do. Like a couple of people said, if I confront the owner I'm sure they would tell me to mind my own bee's wax so that is really not an option. I have a son and I can't stand it when somebody tries to tell me how to raise him. I also don't think that much will come out of having animal control look into the issue because the dog does have shelter and what I assume is food and water. I did fail to mention that it is under some tees and has some shade so that helps. I know deep down that this dog does not belong outside for as long and as much as it is. I put my Yorkie on one of those corkscrew stakes for a half hour or so when I am outside working in the yard or washing the car but I am constantly checking on him even though he is in plain sight. Just like I did when my son was young.

For some reason just like yesterday I noticed the dog going back and forth in kind of a figure eight tonight. I don't know if that is some sort of hyper or nervous action. That does look odd and worries me. I do feel a little bit better that I did not see it out there last night. I feel like I really need to monitor it a little more before making a decision. I want to tell my wife about it and she has never seen it because she does not go the same way I do from the house but she is so soft hearted it will make her cry for days. I'm all alone on this one so that's why I came here to find some help. I will keep everyone updated. Once again thank you to everyone for the response. You have found a new member and I am going to tell my wife about this site.

I would be more than willing to go by and take a look at the situation myself, if you would like. However, I know giving out an address can be a bit odd through the internet. Then you may have another opinion on the matter and not feel so alone in everything.

I would definitely monitor the dogs behavior a bit more and see what continues on with that. I do worry about the figure eight activity that he has going on.

If things do continue to stay the same and the dog continues with such behavior, I would consider calling the Animal Control and just ask their opinion on if a dog was having that behavior without neccessarily giving away any information on the specific dog, if you do not feel comfortable doing so.

amanda350 07-22-2008 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ctvol (Post 2131026)
OK I am back! No I haven't been arrested. Yet! Last night the power was out and I was posting using what battery life I had on my laptop and using my Blackberry for my internet connection. My laptop battery ran out and we did not have power until this morning. Then I had to go to work and never had time to post.

Anyway I am sorry to keep everyone waiting and man I can't believe all the responses. I did take that walk and I have to say that I did not see the Yorkie outside this time. Maybe they had enough sense to bring it in during the storm. I did however see it tied up on my way home tonight afer 9:00 pm. Since it was not out last night I think I really need to keep a close eye out and see how often it is on that line. I am thinking about going up there in a few minutes too see if it is still there.

I am still torn on what to do. Like a couple of people said, if I confront the owner I'm sure they would tell me to mind my own bee's wax so that is really not an option. I have a son and I can't stand it when somebody tries to tell me how to raise him. I also don't think that much will come out of having animal control look into the issue because the dog does have shelter and what I assume is food and water. I did fail to mention that it is under some tees and has some shade so that helps. I know deep down that this dog does not belong outside for as long and as much as it is. I put my Yorkie on one of those corkscrew stakes for a half hour or so when I am outside working in the yard or washing the car but I am constantly checking on him even though he is in plain sight. Just like I did when my son was young.

For some reason just like yesterday I noticed the dog going back and forth in kind of a figure eight tonight. I don't know if that is some sort of hyper or nervous action. That does look odd and worries me. I do feel a little bit better that I did not see it out there last night. I feel like I really need to monitor it a little more before making a decision. I want to tell my wife about it and she has never seen it because she does not go the same way I do from the house but she is so soft hearted it will make her cry for days. I'm all alone on this one so that's why I came here to find some help. I will keep everyone updated. Once again thank you to everyone for the response. You have found a new member and I am going to tell my wife about this site.


:lol tears You put your son on a corkscrew steak while you were outside....Why have I never thought of this!!! lol... I'm sorry, I couldn't help myself on this one...I know this is not a funny situation....sorry.. Anyways, not that it matters, but how big is this Yorkie?

upindust 07-22-2008 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ctvol (Post 2131026)
OK I am back! No I haven't been arrested. Yet! Last night the power was out and I was posting using what battery life I had on my laptop and using my Blackberry for my internet connection. My laptop battery ran out and we did not have power until this morning. Then I had to go to work and never had time to post.

Anyway I am sorry to keep everyone waiting and man I can't believe all the responses. I did take that walk and I have to say that I did not see the Yorkie outside this time. Maybe they had enough sense to bring it in during the storm. I did however see it tied up on my way home tonight afer 9:00 pm. Since it was not out last night I think I really need to keep a close eye out and see how often it is on that line. I am thinking about going up there in a few minutes too see if it is still there.

I am still torn on what to do. Like a couple of people said, if I confront the owner I'm sure they would tell me to mind my own bee's wax so that is really not an option. I have a son and I can't stand it when somebody tries to tell me how to raise him. I also don't think that much will come out of having animal control look into the issue because the dog does have shelter and what I assume is food and water. I did fail to mention that it is under some tees and has some shade so that helps. I know deep down that this dog does not belong outside for as long and as much as it is. I put my Yorkie on one of those corkscrew stakes for a half hour or so when I am outside working in the yard or washing the car but I am constantly checking on him even though he is in plain sight. Just like I did when my son was young.

For some reason just like yesterday I noticed the dog going back and forth in kind of a figure eight tonight. I don't know if that is some sort of hyper or nervous action. That does look odd and worries me. I do feel a little bit better that I did not see it out there last night. I feel like I really need to monitor it a little more before making a decision. I want to tell my wife about it and she has never seen it because she does not go the same way I do from the house but she is so soft hearted it will make her cry for days. I'm all alone on this one so that's why I came here to find some help. I will keep everyone updated. Once again thank you to everyone for the response. You have found a new member and I am going to tell my wife about this site.


print out some information on yorkies and their coats and how the sun isbad for them and leave it in their mailbox alogn with how the heat can kill them. It'll be annoymous.

yorkiesmiles 07-22-2008 08:48 PM

Welcome to YT! I love having another caring yorkie owner here.

ash0248 07-23-2008 05:01 AM

If I were in your shoes I would simply walk over to talk to the people and mention that you have seen the puppy outside a good bit and was wondering if they would be willing to give the dog to you or even sell him seeing how you are such a yorkie lover. Dont be mean or judgmental, just tell them how you have been looking for another puppy and you would love to have that one. I dont know about there but here Dusty goes potty and in about two mins he has had enough of the heat.

yorkieusa 07-23-2008 06:29 AM

It is so heartbreaking to see how some people abuse these little dogs. I just cannot understand why they get them if they are going to treat them that way!:(

donnarod 07-23-2008 10:26 AM

Please Help! Maybe I'm Overreacting
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KNoelleV (Post 2131078)
I would be more than willing to go by and take a look at the situation myself, if you would like. However, I know giving out an address can be a bit odd through the internet. Then you may have another opinion on the matter and not feel so alone in everything.

I would definitely monitor the dogs behavior a bit more and see what continues on with that. I do worry about the figure eight activity that he has going on.

If things do continue to stay the same and the dog continues with such behavior, I would consider calling the Animal Control and just ask their opinion on if a dog was having that behavior without neccessarily giving away any information on the specific dog, if you do not feel comfortable doing so.

She could PM you the address.

ctvol 07-23-2008 06:46 PM

Well I have some encouraging news. I did not see the dog on the line on my way to work this morning or on my way home. Maybe I have been overreacting a bit or maybe I am just paying more attention to the situation and it's not as bad as I thought but I still don't feel great about it. I still have seen it out in the hottest part of the day on that line. I know you can't leave them out long and I only let mine out for a few minutes when it is hot because he starts panting pretty quick and he wants to come in. I will continue to keep an eye on the situation and give some updates later. If anything maybe I can call animal control and get them to visit them and if anything maybe that will encourage them to keep the dog inside more on hot days.

As for the poster that joked about keeping my son on the corkscrew stake? He's 19 years old and that is really not a bad idea! :)


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