this is a little off the topic of yorkies and big dogs, but did you know that my moms house insurance wont cover certain dogs "that have been known to be agreesive breeds"........ pitbulls, rotties, dobermans, and german shepard was all on that list (it was a pretty long list too) but i can believe that they have REQUIREMEnts for home owners insurance on what dog you have (i have known pitbulls, dobeys and there is this really cute rotty at the dog park all the time ......lol..... the poot rotty gets BULLIED by my lil yorkie and even the Chis at the park, she is so sweet) anyways, i just thought that was interesting peice of information that my mom shared with me...... and no...lol... yorkie is not on the list, i asked :p

Overprotective?
 

:( I don't think so. I wouldn't let my tiny dog "play" with a 100 lb. dog any more than I would let a big dog "play" with a horse. I am not saying they have to be totally separated at all times but when one paw (or hoof) is kicked in the wrong directions someone's going to get hurt.

It's no different than a 100 lb. person stepping on a tiny dog. Or a grown man wrestling with a toddler. Keep your babies safe!

This is not directed at families that include "children" of all sizes. You know your dogs and your dogs know each other.

I hate to hear anyone sound pressured when they feel uncomfortable about something. If it doesn't feel right, play it safe.

I don't know why our Animal Protective League would say they "lock" ?? if that
were not the case. Since I was called "ignorant" I'll research it more.

It took me one minute to find this, There is lots more if you would like. I'm wrong
many times but when people get like this I do want to prove I'm right.

http://www.wickedgood.info/cgi-bin/f...cgi?post=46951

No, No, No. Would you take a chance with your toddler playing with them? We have so many here, I just can't bear it. One day they wag their tail, the next day they are maniacs. I have seen them take a dog they have been friendly with for weeks and just tear it apart. They have a prey instinct that is so unreliable. They are fighting dogs. I just get so upset about this breed of dogs. The owner can have the best intentions in the world but cannot trust these dogs. Don't you watch TV????

And Yorkies to most dogs are fuzzy little toys. Please, please don't.

No I really dont watch alot of tv. Instead I do dog rescues. I deal with pit bulls alot. I run a rottie rescue and I also rehome many many pit bulls.

Fighting dogs as a group received media attention in the 1990's similar to German Shepherd Dogs in the 50's and Doberman Pinscher's in the 70's. Rottweilers, German Shepherds, Great Danes and Doberman Pinschers still evoke fear in the general public. Several **myths** about the these dogs persist such as the belief that a dog's jaw "locks" onto a victim or that the jaw pressure of one breed is greater than another's. As a group, fighting and guard dogs are energetic, loyal and willing to please. They are not very reactive to pain and enjoy rough play. These dogs are large and muscular and can be difficult to control as adults if they are not trained to respond to their owner's commands. Guarding dogs all have large heads and jaws. Dog bites from larger breeds are more severe than bites from smaller dogs because of the size of the injuries and the dog's ability to knock a person down during an attack. However, large dogs ***DO NOT ATTACK MORE OFTEN THAN SMALL DOGS.**** A large dog attack is just more injurious.


This is something that I found right away also. I have a ton of resources for information on pit bulls and other dogs labeled as aggressive breeds. Please research both ends of the spectrum before placing blame of a breed.

I think it is easy to call one or another breed of dog more or less dangerous. Like I said I have a large GSD, he is my 3rd. I have raised them all from young puppies.And all the same way.
One would savage ANY dog, big or small if given half a chance, one was a more timid female that I am sure would have been terrorized by a yorkie and this one is a saint and can be trusted around any animal.
He has even brought home baby mice and bunnies for me to save. LOL, probably took them right out of their nests. Never a mark on them only spit from him licking them.
Common sense tells me that if I see a large GSD at the dog park or in the street I pick up my yorkies. Same with a pit bull, a chow, a lab and a med size mutt. I do not let my yorkies play with any dog except the 2 I own and trust implicitly.

I have a mini schnauzer as a nephew dog,I babysit him often, he is still a puppy weighing maybe 15-20 lbs. he likes to play rough. Mignon is not allowed near him unless he is contained in an expen. He is a sweet dog but very exuberant, Mignon weighs less that 3 lbs. He could hurt her in his play, I do not want to chance it.And believe me it is a pain in the butt, when Mignon is out Ollie is in. I just don't want to take the chance she might get hurt.
I know when Buddy my biggest gets excited about someone coming to the door I need to pick up Mignon. She is very aware of his excitement and stays away but I just don't take chances.
Sorry this is so lengthy but to me it is all just about common sense. You have to do what you feel is right for your dog and you but I choose to take the safest road with mine. To me it isn't about breed it is about sheer size.

It is true that these breeds are not able to "lock" their jaw, however physics tells us that their size and musculature will cause them to exert more preassure, they simply exert more pounds per square inch and are more difficult to pull off than say a yorkie. This is a fact...There is no way around it that there are a couple of breeds that are more responsible for injury to people and other animals than others, unfortunately pitbulls and rotts fall into this category...BUT IT IS NOT THEIR FAULT!!! What these breeds need to be successfully integrated into living with people and other pets is proper training, socialization, and LOVE!!! Just like any other breed!

People who are going to own pits or other dogs than can be deadly really need to be knowledgable and realistic about the characteristics of their dogs breed. They need to take them to obedience and socialization classes and work with them on manners. These dogs also need a tremendous amount of exercise in order to exert what could be come negative energy. Males unless kept for breeding should be nuetered to help curb aggression. Keep them leashed around strangers, avoid physical punishment, etc. Just like you would do with any other dog to make them a loving part of your family...I think because of the image these dogs have a lot of people get them to look cool & tough and want them to be aggressive, THIS IS ABUSE AND IT IS NOT THEIR FAULT!!!

Just the other day Bruce & I were at Petco (buying toys for Shira the rescue yorkie actually) and a guy had a pitbull with him, I thought nothing of it assuming most people would not bring an unsocialized dog into public, until it lunged at my baby. I immediately picked Bruce up and the guy holding the pitbull shocked it with some sort of shock collar. He acted very concerned until we moved on to the next aisle then he praised the dog, after shocking it, for agressively coming at us, well I had no problem handing my dog to the coworker I had with me and marching back and saying "excuse me sir, but you are abusing your dog by teaching it to be aggressive, if you choose not to control your dog others will, this is Alaska, no one has to have a gun permit and if I were not a dog lover I would have shot your dog the way it lunged at mine and someone else will." He looked at me and said "Lady pitbulls are fighting dogs what I am I supposed to do." THIS IS WHY THIS BREED and other have problems!!! IT IS THEIR IDIOTIC OWNERS!!!

Sorry for the rant, I am not a fan of large dogs they actually scare the hell out of me, but I hate when people villanize other animals when it is really the fault of people!

Sorry... But I would not let my Gracie play with big dogs. My neighbors have a chow chow - German Sheppard mix and I remember a while ago Gracie was trying to play with it and that dog pinned Gracie down and started growling at her, it scared the living daylight out of me and ever since Gracie has been scared of big dogs.

no way
 

I totally agree :) dianne and prudence :)

great
 

That is a fantastic post. :) dianne and prudence :)

big dogs
 

i was a vet tech for 6 years guess what bit me an did nerve damage to my hand a lab which they are supposed to be a nice family dog you have to judge each dog individually not by what breed they are

very well said. as i have also said in past posts. the dogs that have bitten me were 2 different golden retrievers and a lab.

All in all, its your choice if you want to give this playtime thing with your dog and the pit a chance. Trust your gut. :)

VERY WELL SAID. german sheperds are also put in the same category as rotts,pittbulls and dobermans, yet policemen use them all the time and they are also used as seeing eye dogs. wow who would think that such an aggressive dog, would be put to help a blind person. please. it's how you train the dog and how you treat it. if someone gets a pittbull and loves it and takes care of it and gives it alot of attention like most of us do to our yorkies he will turn out to be just as loveable and good as a yorkie, but with that said most people who get pittbulls just get them and give them some attention and leave them outside in the winter or blazing summer and and sometimes even forget about them, well no wonder they get aggressive towards their owners. they loved them for a short time and then got lazy. i wonder how much i would love my mother if she loved me and gave me attention for a short time and then forgot about me and left me out in the cold. hmmmm. what do you think?

:mad: I don't think your comment was necessary in response to my post. Sorry to be so ignorant, but never having had an interest in owning a pit, I've never felt the need to research the breed.

my rosie is 7lb and plays with a bull dog and a large cocker spaniel the other day over the park she was playing chase with a alsation it was so funny



wendy and rosie :rose:




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I dont think she meant it to sound as it did, Sorry that you took it that way. :) :)

Shes 100% pit bull. The neighbors have a 5 week old new born baby and she is soooooo in love with that baby. If she barks and you say SHHH the baby is sleeping she will stop. Or if the baby cries she will get your attention. And to think . Shes a pit. Its all in how these dogs are raised. Honestly it is.Shes 100% pit bull. The neighbors have a 5 week old new born baby and she is soooooo in love with that baby. If she barks and you say SHHH the baby is sleeping she will stop. Or if the baby cries she will get your attention. And to think . Shes a pit. Its all in how these dogs are raised. Honestly it is.



i think thats so true if you miss treat ANY animal they could attack its just that bigger breeds can do more damage than the smaller ones but many people think small dogs are snappy, its all in the way you bring them up, just like your children.


wendy and rosie :rose:




:yorkiesar

Our scary experience
 

:thumbdown Never ever let your baby near those pit bulls.........I don't care how "sweet" they are......... :eek:

Yorkshire Terriers are often stolen and used to train fighting pit-bulls because of a yorkies tenacity....................... :eek:

Well I have to say I have learnt something on yorkie talk today I like millions of others have always been brought up to believe pit bulls jaws lock on but you know what at the end of the day it doesnt matter to me what breed of big dog it is I wont let prudence play with big dogs All the information I have read about yorkies are they are fine boned or is that not true as well?Im just not prepared to take a chance call me overprotective so be it. And by the way have you seen half a little girls face ripped off? not a pretty sight. :eek: dianne and prudence :eek:

Pit Bulls Jaws DO LOCK!!!!! Many owners have an ax to grind since they
have to pay such high insurance rates when they own these couple breeds. Anyone
can own a website and say anything they want. I will believe my Animal Protective
League and the Law in Boston that states a Pit Bulls jaw will lock when they bite.
Like some have said a friendly dog that has parents or grandparents that have
been taught to kill or fight can turn. You certainly wouldn't put your precious
children in danger and you should not your precious dogs either.

sometimes they arent covered at all in that dpeartment because of what breed dog they have

Stewie plays with dogs of all sizes, including his cousin, a Shar Pei,
his cousin, a Cocker
his friend, a German Shepard (who is afraid of him, I might add)
his neighbors - an Albino German Shepard and a Boxer
and two formerly abused Pit Bulls that moved in next door to me. They're rescues and they're wonderful. They love Stewie and I would never "protect" him by not letting him play with other dogs. Dogs that aren't allowed to play turn into grumpy old mopes when they're older.

Like many others here I have always believed that a dog is only as good as his training. If you train any dog to be agressive chances are that's what he'll be. However it only took one tragic experience for me to change my thinking on pit bulls. My brother-in-law owned a pit bull along with several dobermans. The pit bull was a mean looking so and so and did a fabulous job of guarding the house, except if he was inside and then he'd lick the thief to death. My brother-in-law also had a young daughter who had been raised with the dogs and there had never been a problem. One evening after supper we were sitting at the table having coffee and my niece was in the livingroom watching TV. She got up to come into the diningroom and Pig the Pit lunged half way across the room and grabbed her by the arm. My brother-in-law who had trained many police dogs yelled the command that the dog was supposed to know to drop whatever it was, but the dog just continued to shake this young child by her arm. That dog would have killed her had it not been for the fact my brother-in-law has a black belt in karate. Sadly however the damage was done and my niece lost her arm.

Here is the problem with pit bulls and many of the other "agressive" breeds, and that includes labs, they are so interbred that you can no longer rely on them being true to breed. It's not the dog's fault obviously but until such time as we can get a handle on the poor breeding tactics these dogs cannot be trusted no matter how sweet and gentle they may seem. They can turn at the drop of a hat.

I completely understand how responsible owners of these dogs feel. But when you have entire countries legislating how these dogs are to be handled in public you surely must ask yourself if so many people can be wrong. If I were a pitbull owner I'd not want to take the chance that my dog would/could bite anyone or anything and I would keep it muzzled while in public places. Perhaps if responsible pitbull owners were to do that it might alleviate the fear surrounding these dogs and restore some confidence to those tasked with enacting the legislation. IT would at least be a starting point. Otherwise I fear they will be banned completely.

Okay I just read the attack post made by Speck...Bruce and I just recently had an experience that was similar with a Bull Terrier (poor guy a run in with a mean pit, the neighbors bull terrier, big guys do not like him), and BY NO MEANS AM I EVER ADVOCATING THIS BUT...If another dog gets your baby and they cannot be pulled apart easily the easiest way to get a dog in an emergency situation only, where they are being so aggressive you think they will seriously injure or kill your baby the easiest way to get to realease your dog is to kick them hard and square in the jaw...Getting hands involved is likely to get you mauled to, you may have a vet bill for the other dog, but that is a lot better than having a dead baby.

It always amazes me how often these people who own outrageously aggressive animals will be so hands off when they attack someone or another dog! Really it disgusts me!

I wouldn't. Even if the dog is sweet natured you never know what can happen. My Gus is only 2.9 lbs and can get hurt by them just playing. I wouldn't even let him play with a big dog if he were 5 to 10 lbs either. Too many things can go wrong.