Backyard Breeder??
 

Hey YT members. I found this website and would like to know what you guys think about this breeder. She has alot of dogs and alot of puppies to sell. Do you think she is a BYB or running a puppy mill or something? I hope not. The prices on her pups are not high, but it just seems like alot of puppies to be taking care of at one time. Let me know what guys think. Here is the website

Yorkiepoo Puppies For Sale Arkansas Yorkiepoos For Sale in AR Yorkiepoo Breeder

She is a BYB for sure, She has 8 males and 13 females listed on her page. Also she rasies then in an indoor.outdoor kennel. She might take alot of time and effort but she is for sure a byb. She isn't breeding to better the breed nor does she state anywhere on her page about health tests done to her males and females before breeding. She does sell with a one year garrentee, But I dont not thing she is doing it to better the breed. Just MHO

I just went to the first page. 2 things stand out on your link right there she has designer pups a big no no in my book basically she is breeding "mutts" 2nd when I opened the link APRI stood out like a sore thumb. I guess I will go back to see what I find on the site.

What is the diffrence between registering APRI and AKC? I know AKC is the most popular and most recognized.

She breeds mixes (Yorkiepoos), and it looks like a commercial kennel. I don't think that anyone that breeds on this scale and breeds mixes, is doing so for the "love of the breed", it's for the "love of the money".

APRI is a dog registery that anyone can register their dogs with all you have to do is send in a picture and a checkand they do a record keeping of the dog you don't have to prove that a Yorkie is a Yorkie he just has to look like one. Most people that fall out of good graces with AKC offer that registery. Some people don't even register their dogs which is fine but I at least would like to know I have a pure Yorkie if that is what I paid for. AKC requires DNA testing on some I think it's after a certain number of breedings and APRI ask for a picture.

Chance To WIN???
 

Yes I seen that she donated the poor puppy. She is deffinatly not someone I would by a pup from. Her prices are small but the old saying sticks in my head with stuff like this....... "YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR"

I actually was going to get a puppy from here, because she did have ground transporation and I just didnt want to fly a little one. ( I am new to this so I didnt have all the information about BYB and puppy mills when I first started looking) So I had picked out a puppy and I thought that everything was fine because all I had to do was put down a deposit and then I didnt have to pay the rest of the money until the transportation company dropped off the puppy to me. Well all of a sudden the ground transportation company "closed down" so she said I would have to give her all of the money and she would fly the puppy to me. Well I told her no and that I wanted my deposit back. She did give me my money back, and I have been looking for a puppy ever since. But now that I know alittle bit more about BYB and such, I dont think my puppy would have been very healthy.

I see she has the patriotic thing and the religion thing down pact. She is pulling all the tricks.:(

The breeder is probably a very nice lady, she did give your deposit back and that says something. On the other hand I didn't see any parents that were anything but basic pet quality.

Adding a new family member is a long term commitment and you can find a breeder with really good quality if you take your time and learn to recognize quality when you see it. If you find a great breeder and wait for the right puppy you'll probably be much happier in the long run. If I were going to have one shipped I would fly rather than use ground. If the puppy is healthy the plane trip is easier for them than 24-48 hours in a vehicle exposed to other dogs. Best of luck finding your furbaby!! :)

Thank you! That does make sense, I never even thought about it that way. I just thought that traveling by ground would be easier, but I didnt even think about other dogs or even other kinds of animals being in the same truck with them. I do hope I can find a good breeder soon.

Wow Those are alot of puppies for sale!

I addition to the other red flags everyone else has mentioned, she only gives a two day health guarantee. :eek: That's a true sign of a "take your money and run" breeder.

Speaking of running, I'd sure run from this breeder.

That is horrible. :(

Well said!!!

I gave a fast count and from scrolling down the page fairly fast I may have missed some but from just what I count there was 68 puppies on the one page:thumbdown:mad:

And I clicked on the parents page thinking I would see pictures of the parents, after you click on it it says expecting parents. And there were 20 dogs on there and those are the ones expecting!!!:eek:

She has 9 breeding males

and I hate the way she says e-mail to place your order!! Like the are french fries or something!!!

Wow. I would definetely say she is a backyard breeder and Im pretty new to all of this! I feel awful for all those beautiful puppies though. :(

Please stop spreading that lie about APRI. Get educated about them before you spout off that they will register anything. They are second only to AKC and are fast becoming the number one registry in the US no matter if you want to believe it or not. I will bet 99% of the dogs registered with them will trace back to AKC. They require a 3 generation pedigree to register any dog and it must have papers before they register not just a picture.

Yeaaa, that I did notice immediately. Would rather see her constantly supporting a standard of breeding to better the breed by the testing of her females and males and sticking closer to the standard of what their physical traits should be ect. I'm sure she may be a nice person, but she may lack in the area of "how to better the breed". There were several of her foundation dogs she listed as Dams and studs that I personally wouldn't use as contributers to the Yorkie population. JMHO.... She has a quite a volume business and adding alot of Yorkies to the pet population. That responsibility shouldn't be taken lightly.

The whole site screams one thing to me. Business/money. Most breeders I've gotten to know, and granted that is few, but the ones I know do it becuse they love it. The best they do is recover their expenses and many don't even cover those. They don't try to make it up in volume and that's what this looks like to me. How else do you explain that many puppies? This has to be a puppy mill. At the very least, she's a backyard breeder. No AKC registry was another sign. Also, she said "most" puppies are available at twelve weeks but some, if their weight is good can go at eight. I'm sure most of us on here have received puppies at eight weeks and they've turned out fine. However, now that I know more, I wouldn't dream of taking a puppy earlier than eight weeks and I know that their weight as absolutely nothing to do with it. It's all about socialization. If I've learned nothing more in my time on YT, it's that no reputable Yorkie breeder would let puppies go earlier than twelve weeks, regardless of their size. The fact that she's advertisting herself as a breeder of cross-breeds doesn't bode well either.

Those are the few things I noticed from the first page of her site.

- Byron

The link alone tells me BYB..."Yorkiepoo Breeder"!

48-72
 

I have seen tons of 48 to 72 hour return for different puppy or get your money back health guarantee, and were a 1-2 health guarantee for congenital issues.

Just because they are the fastest growing doesn't mean they are any good, sure the dogs "trace" back to AKC, but the puppies are not eligible to be registered with them, and that's what's important. APRI, was founded by commercial breeders, and that means puppy mills. Since the AKC has cracked down on breeders and kennel conditions, many commercial breeders had to leave, and they founded APRL, I am not saying that the puppies aren't purebred; I'm saying the parents are living in unspeakable conditions. See this link for more information: Registries

Most puppy's sold at Pet stores are registered with APRI, that's why it the "fastest growing," and please everyone don't purchase your dog from a petstore or website, if people would stop buying dogs from poor breeders, we would put them out of business. We've got to stop "rescuing" puppies, and start rescuing their parents.

Exactly. The APRI was formed to protect the wholesale pet industry, i. e., pet shops and the commercial kennels that supply them.

This is from their own website:


The idea of restricting the pet trade through registry services is not new, and most breed clubs, major kennel clubs, and cattery organizations discourage or prohibit selling animals wholesale to distributors or retailers. Some simply deny registration of any dog or cat sold through a pet store even if that pet carries registration papers. While most currently grudgingly accept for registration the animals sold through pet stores, the possibility of that changing is very real and always present. Also, other proposals that would severely limit the supply of purebred puppies and kittens available to the pet-loving public are constantly being made by and to various registry services to restrict the breeding and registration of cats and dogs. If these proposals had become policy before APRI's inception, there would have been no time to organize an effective, reputable alternative registration service. The industry needed it's own registry service well established before a catastrophe, and, fortunately it has achieved this with America's Pet Registry.

Americas Pet Registry. Inc. - FAQ

:eek:WOW! I didn't know that APRI was started solely because of that! You definitly learn something new on here every day! Basically, APRI is giving the go ahead toward the oversize population of dogs and cats, and giving the o.k to poor breeding practices, making it easier for these mills and BYB's to sell their pups with registration! They are only making a problem WORSE, they didn't help anyone!

You are so right, and in addition, these groups have become very powerful lobbies, that do everything in their power to try and stop government from making new laws to regulate kennels. The police can't shut down kennels if they aren't breaking the laws.

APRI is the only registry endorsed by Petland. Since Petland and the Hunte Corporation are such a huge part of the puppymill industry, I consider APRI to be the worst of the worst. :(

Lol, I can just hear that in their commercials. "We\'re the only registry endorsed by Petland!"