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Nancy1999 06-28-2008 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by BamaFan121s (Post 2078179)
Yes, that's an obvous. I was merely using that as an example to illustrate my point.


No, actually it's not obvious; some people are against any company that does any animal testing what so ever, they don't understand the difference.

Nancy1999 06-28-2008 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by BamaFan121s (Post 2078175)
It is very unfortunate that you had to deal w/ that situation. I would have been furious--as I'm sure you probably were. I do NOT agree whatsoever with registries allowing dogs to be registered with them in this manner for this reason. This is NOT a practice that I agree with and I think it is dishonest and deceitful. My point was, it's not correct to assume that EVERY individual involved with these registries is doing this. In addition, 'doing business' can include a wide variety of things...breeding under them, paying to register a purchased pup, supporting them by attending hosted events--all are considered "doing business" with them...

The point is, if a registry will register a dog with "stolen breeding rights," what good is the registry? The registry is only as good as it's reputation.

BamaFan121s 06-28-2008 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Nancy1999 (Post 2078208)
No, actually it's not obvious; some people are against any company that does any animal testing what so ever, they don't understand the difference.
OK, point taken. I meant to ME it was obvious. I thought that commented was meant for me, not as a general statement. I misunderstood...my apologies.

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Originally Posted by Nancy1999 (Post 2078221)
The point is, if a registry will register a dog with "stolen breeding rights," what good is the registry? The registry is only as good as it's reputation.
OK...you are entitled to your opinion and I to mine.

Nikki+2 06-28-2008 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Nancy1999 (Post 2078221)
The point is, if a registry will register a dog with "stolen breeding rights," what good is the registry? The registry is only as good as it's reputation.
I completely agree with you and I had never looked at it that way. I've alway preferred AKC simply because they are the most reputable IMO even though I don't agree with everything they do- they are the best option to me. What I had never considered is when breeders register litters with these alternative registries, they really are supporting stolen breeding rights in a way, since most of these registries came about to circumvent AKC rules. Great point!:thumbup:

ETA- To clarify, I am not vilifying every breeder who registers with AKC alternatives. I don't think they are all intentionally doing something wrong but maybe just haven't considered what they are supporting.

ILOVEYORKIES2 06-28-2008 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by kathy785 (Post 2077670)
APRI WILL register mixed breeds. I have done it when I was doing the yorkiepoos. Yorkie registered with APRI (dual registered) and poodle with APRI (dual registered) = APRI registered Yorkiepoo. Does not mean they were purebreed, just that they had pedigrees on both sides. AKC has been around a lot longer than APRI.

Registration or lack of registration does not make a pet any better or worse. The love it gives to its owner is the real value of a pet. No paper can make it worth any more or less to its adoring owner.

There is always going to be people that breed just to reproduce and make money whether the dogs are AKC registered or APRI (ACA, CKC, or whatever registery is convenient) What the breeder needs to be thinking of though is does the pairing try to create a puppy that fits the standard of that breed or just any "purebred" puppy regardless of what the standard says?

APRI will NOT register mix breeds. You are wrong! Call them and ask.

kathy785 06-29-2008 02:20 AM
Well, as I stated earlier.. I did raise yorkiepoos at one time. I did register them with APRI. (Maybe they could have changed? It has been several years.)
APRI also registers cats. While they do have dog shows, they are a Pet Registry, as their name says.

Nancy1999 06-29-2008 08:06 AM
I think you may be thinking about the CKC, they will register mixed breeds, however like you said APRI, may have changed. APRI was founded by commercial breeders and has major ties with big businesses, and this means puppy mills. This link says that, "APRI - AMERICA'S PET REGISTRY INC. Advertises free registration for commercial breeders. Non Profit 'dedicated to the preservation of the professional pet industry', dogs and cats. Founded by retailers of pets (commercial breeders and resellers). Here's a link that describes the different registries and what they involve." For more information on these alternative registries see:
Registries.

Here is a list that Wikipeda offers as the major most accepted clubs in English speaking countries. As you see none of the alternative registries are on it. American Kennel Club (United States)
· Australian National Kennel Council
· Canadian Kennel Club
· The Kennel Club (United Kingdom)
· Kennel Club of India
· Kennel Union of Southern Africa
· United Kennel Club (United States)

Kennel club - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

bchgirl 06-29-2008 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Nancy1999 (Post 2079764)
I think you may be thinking about the CKC, they will register mixed breeds, however like you said APRI, may have changed. APRI was founded by commercial breeders and has major ties with big businesses, and this means puppy mills. This link says that, "APRI - AMERICA'S PET REGISTRY INC. Advertises free registration for commercial breeders. Non Profit 'dedicated to the preservation of the professional pet industry', dogs and cats. Founded by retailers of pets (commercial breeders and resellers). Here's a link that describes the different registries and what they involve." For more information on these alternative registries see:
Registries.

Here is a list that Wikipeda offers as the major most accepted clubs in English speaking countries. As you see none of the alternative registries are on it. American Kennel Club (United States)
· Australian National Kennel Council
· Canadian Kennel Club
· The Kennel Club (United Kingdom)
· Kennel Club of India
· Kennel Union of Southern Africa
· United Kennel Club (United States)

Kennel club - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I would venture to guess it's because the other alternative registries...aren't recognized outside of the US and/or aren't international.

I may be wrong...that's happened ONCE. LOL

Nancy1999 06-29-2008 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by bchgirl (Post 2079784)
I would venture to guess it's because the other alternative registries...aren't recognized outside of the US and/or aren't international.

I may be wrong...that's happened ONCE. LOL
I would guess it's because it's they aren't "accepted" as a legitimate club, except by the breeders who use them.

BamaFan121s 06-29-2008 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by bchgirl (Post 2079784)
I would venture to guess it's because the other alternative registries...aren't recognized outside of the US and/or aren't international.
Good point...that probably holds some truth to it.:thumbup:


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