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sierrapups 06-08-2008 01:52 PM
Please, please, please. I would not have said anything about moderators except that Livingdustmops brought this up! All this was supposed to be a poll. Why has it strayed? Sorry if some think I was harsh didn't mean to sound that way. I will contact the mod myself.

AprilLove 06-08-2008 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by sierrapups (Post 2038200)
Please, please, please. I would not have said anything about moderators except that Livingdustmops brought this up! All this was supposed to be a poll. Why has it strayed? Sorry if some think I was harsh didn't mean to sound that way. I will contact the mod myself.

?????:confused::confused::confused:

red98vett 06-08-2008 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by AprilLove (Post 2038148)
Just want to say, not that what I say matters, lol. But I agree with V' 100% The nasty behind the scenes happenings between breeders, etc should stay there and not be carried over here from private or other Biewer forums.
All I know is I love this breed.
I love Yorkshire Terriers and Biewer Yorkshires and that is why I am a member here and on BT :) :love::love::love::love:
OOOPS April - I called you 'amber' sorry !!! hahaha - blond MOMENTS have now turned into hours :D

sierrapups 06-08-2008 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Snow Yorkies (Post 2038176)
I have a biewer yorkshire..:) I agree the moderators work very hard to keep both forums drama free and to the topic! I do not think that they are thanked enough for their dedication to do this for service for all of us. :thumbup: Nor do I feel that moderators and administration should be blamed for other's actions of not following the rules.

mscat this is a biewer.
It seems that this simple post has been hijacked by the same people that always respond in order to start a dispute. What is so difficult about answering the poll? This is not a poll about moderators or admininistrators!!!!:(
Sue why are you posting your pictures on this poll?

Snow Yorkies 06-08-2008 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by mscat (Post 2038159)
:I do not know the difference between breeds, or really know about the other one... :
I was answering someone's questions, sorry didn't know that we weren't allowed.

red98vett 06-08-2008 02:02 PM
[quote=livingdustmops;2038166]
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Originally Posted by red98vett (Post 2038143)
Why does the conversation about Biewers vs Yorkies turn into such battles I wonder ?

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It is real simple to me...it is all about trying to get the Biewers into AKC and being the parent club and controlling everything about the Biewers. It becomes very clear if you read the rules for bringing in a new breed to the AKC via FSS. In my personal opinion these dogs are not anywhere near ready to go AKC until we understand all the health issues with these dogs and we have enough good breeders that are into their 5th generation breedings to see what is going on. We have to many breeders that have never bred before just throwing dogs together and they do not have a clue about line breeding or inbreeding and what the results could be. We have breeders that cannot read a pedigree so it is real scary :eek: what they are putting together.

I do think it is sad for the dogs what is going on but power and money seem to override the concern for the dogs.
I have to agree - I've seen too many bouncing around home to home because of numerous 'health or fault' reasons - mostly because of breeder misrepresentation and that's a shame for these dogs. It's a shame for ALL dogs and the people involved - but this seems to be a particularly debatable subject.

All I can say is good luck to all involved and hopefully the dogs interest are the number #1 Priority - not breeding for a buck like the rest of the world seems to be doing these days with yorkies.:(

my2boyz 06-08-2008 02:04 PM
I just want to ad that I have 4 Biewer Yorkshire Terriers...it even states that on their registrations, both U.S. and German. I'll keep the rest of my opinions and comments to myself...it's probably better that way...at least for now. :)

yorkiekist 06-08-2008 02:07 PM
I must have missed something???? Where does it say this is a poll?? I thought you wanted views on wether Biewers should be call biewer yorkies or just biewer terriers.
Ok, so this is my view. I think they should be called biewer terriers. They are a beautiful fledgling breed and should not be lumped together with the Yorkie breed. Even the DNA states that they are not purebred Yorkies. I give mega kudos to those that are doing the right thing by develloping this breed correctly and not just for the big time $$. Hopefully someday they will be in an AKC show ring!!!:)

chachi 06-08-2008 02:11 PM
I dont see a poll:confused:

Tnyorkiemom 06-08-2008 02:12 PM
My View
 
My Smokey is half and half...or as some say a splitter.....on his dad's German IBC pedigree it states: Biewer Yorkshire Terrier a la Pom Pon....so that is what they see them as.....people can have their own opinions but the admin at IBC will still call them what they want......

sierrapups 06-08-2008 02:27 PM
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Ok, so this is my view. I think they should be called biewer terriers. They are a beautiful fledgling breed and should not be lumped together with the Yorkie breed. Even the DNA states that they are not purebred Yorkies. I give mega kudos to those that are doing the right thing by develloping this breed correctly and not just for the big time $$. Hopefully someday they will be in an AKC show ring!!!:)
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Thank you for answering the original question.

scrapindee 06-08-2008 02:43 PM
"I have to agree - I've seen too many bouncing around home to home because of numerous 'health or fault' reasons - mostly because of breeder misrepresentation and that's a shame for these dogs." Redvette, what are you talking about here--this is a Yorkie problem. I have't seen this with the Biewers.

yougetthesmiles 06-08-2008 02:46 PM
I have always admired the Biewer. I see myself some day owning one. I think they are adsolutley gorgeous!

Sugar's Mom 06-08-2008 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by sierrapups (Post 2038220)
It seems that this simple post has been hijacked by the same people that always respond in order to start a dispute. What is so difficult about answering the poll? This is not a poll about moderators or admininistrators!!!!:(
Sue why are you posting your pictures on this poll?
you did not post a poll. there are guidelines listed to make a thread a poll and you did not follow them.

scrapindee 06-08-2008 02:55 PM
Took too long to finish editing, so to the original question they are Biewer Terriers.

The BTCA has moved on beyond the MARS testing only and has evidence of gene variations between the Yorkie and Biewer.


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