At wits end with Excitement Peeing! Pls Help!
 

ive posted about my 5.5 month old pup before and got a few responses on the subject..... anyways...

Backstory: I got my puppy when she was around 9 weeks old. she was very playful and happy. She did NOT pee when greeting people. Then about 1-2 months later she began peeing when meeting people. she just goes INSANE when people come. I mean there is just so much jumping up and down wagging of tail and PEEING. :-(
YTers told me to have people ignore her and that should help. Well that does work sometimes.... but not usually. shell just jump and jump and jump and then pees mid air. Then i realized if i hold her shes just squirm like crazy but wont pee on me. well today it finally happened. I was holding her while a neighbor was greeting her and she peed all over ME!!!!

its just driving me crazy. not only that, its embarrassing to boot. I dont know what to do. some people will ignore her for a total of 10 seconds and then talk to her. and then she does it. any advice? ugh did i do something that brought on this behavior? like i said she did not do this the first couple of months. ive never had a dog with this problem and am having a tough time coping.

could you not train her to stay in once place while people come in the house like tell her to sit and stay in her bed till the people sit down and give her a treat when she stays there? i know it might be hard but if she has to do something else that ur telling her to do then she might not think about peeing, am sure that made sense in my mind LOL

This is called sumissive peeing and should be handled carefully because the wrong actions will worsen the condition. Here's one link, but there is a great deal of information on this behavior. Sumissive Urination All the experts agree on one thing, never punish for this.

She is like blinded by excitement. no commands seem to hold. :(

No i never yell or punish her. I pretty much just clean it up

but really? submissive even tho shes all happy and excited to see people? i thought that just happened if they were scared. but i dont really know much on the subject

Im having the same problem with my 4 month old boy. So I know how you feel and I will be watching this thread. I also just ordered him some wee wee pads lol to save people shoes, clothes and my carpet lol :rolleyes:

its just weird bc it started all out of the blue :( i hope we can fix this problem at least i know im not alone.

For some reason he doesnt do this with me. Its mainly with my children and any outsider. He just recently started marking also! I wanted to wait till he was around 6mths to have him neutered but im gonna up his appt:(

It's possible that before she was too young to realize there were new people around.

The advice that you were given before was correct. No talk! No touch! No eye contact! until she settles down. Ask your friends to totally ignore her until she behaves.

Also you might need to work on your skills as pack leader. You might think you are in charge, but your actions might be telling her something different.

Some questiolns
Does she sleep with you
Does she eat with you
Does she run through doors ahead of you
Do you feed her when she is jumping up and down.

I suggest you watch some Dog Whisperer episodes on The national Geographic channel or buy his DVD to learn how to be a calm assertive pack leader.

In doing so she will feel confident that you are in charge and will no longer feel the need to show submission to strangers.

I hope that helps

Great post! I totally agree. My Chi used to do submissive peeing, but we ignored it & she stopped doing it after a few months. We NEVER punished her for doing so because she couldn't help it. Now she is three years old & hasn't done any submissive peeing since she was four or five months old! Good luck. I agree with what some of the other people have said on here ... get her to sit. Don't let anyone who comes over pet her or give her attention until she sits for you. Don't scold her for doing it. It's really common for dogs to do this, so don't worry that your bby is doing something that's out of the ordinary :)

-Amy

I have no idea if she realized she was meeting people but they would hold her and play with her and shed have a good ol time :-( we'd go out in the backyard and all of us would run around and shed chase us (which she still does)

to answer your Qs :
Does she sleep with you: Yes
Does she eat with you: No, but she does sit and watch us eat sometimes Ill give her a piece of bread or something at the end.
Does she run through doors ahead of you:hmm, usually but not at her training classes. i always walk thru the door first. but when i take her out in the front yes, shell have her nose to the door as i unlock it and run outside when it opens. when going in the backyard, i always go out first because she is unleashed i guess.
Do you feed her when she is jumping up and down. You mean when she is begging for food while we are eating? No, however sometimes some relatives take pity on her and do so even though i scold them and tell them not to do so.

I dont have the NGC :(

Bella did this until she was about 10 months old. Now its very very rare.
She has really calmed down in the last few months. She 18 months old now.
My SIL got Bella as a xmas present. I was looking for a Yorkie. She was not.
She was never home and realized after 2 weeks she was not home enough.
So Her loss MY gain. I guess Bella still sees her and my Bil as her first mommy and daddy.
So when they come over if they greet her...she will tinkle a lil.
I doubt this will never change!

I would still try the No talk not touch no eye contact with her. Just totally ignore her until she settles down and comes to the people quietly. it might take a while. But if it's any consolation, most of them do outgrow it.

how long did you ignore your chi? people seem not to listen to me and think im some crazy furmommy when i ask for them to do so. theyll ignore her for say 1 minute at most (and this is after repeatedly telling them to do so) and then talk to her in that high pitched voice. people on the street I have a hard time talking to because theyll just run up to her and be OMG by this time shes already transformed into a mexican jumping bean and peeing. in her petsmart training class we are teaching them to sit when greeting people and i have to randomly find ppl in the store and get her to sit before shes pet and shell sit for a nano second and then when people come to touch her shes start jumping on them and peeing UGHHHHHHHHHHHH

Very good posting!!:thumbup::thumbup: This very true. I hope the link helps you out.

thanks for taking time to reply again to my post. :-D i sure hope she grows out of this. one last thing. does this no touch no eye contact, etc go for the people she regularly sees as well (suchas my family and SO's family) or just guests and strangers? sorry i am just trying to make absolutely sure i do everything correctly. though i assume you mean everyone.

Couldn't you buy panties for her and insert a poise pad when you know that guest are coming? That way she can pee on the pad.

Puppies go through this phase, eventually things will get better. :)

Tucker is 3 and he still does this! I either pick him up when people come to the door or I've also gotten down on the floor and kept him calm. But, the problem is that whenever I let him go, it could be 10 minutes later, the minute someone talks to him he would wiggle and get excited and pee! So, I started putting a belly band on him when company comes over. The really weird thing is, when I take the belly band off after company leaves, he is dry! I know he can't help it, but that doesn't make it any easier to deal with, that's for sure!

I ignored her until the problem was fixed. She did the submissive peeing for about two months, & then she stopped & hasn't done it since :) That's really sucky that people won't respect your wishes when you tell them to not give her attention! :mad: That would seriously make me angry to no end. If it were me (& this is just my opinion, so you don't have to do this of course), I wouldn't allow people over if they aren't willing to respect my wishes. I would also stop taking her on walks & such until the problem is solved, because like you said, you can't control people walking up to you & trying to pet your dog! I know that it's really really annoying & frustrating, but I'm sure she will stop eventually. There is hope, so don't give up!

-Amy

Now I try to take her at times no one will be in the neighborhood park like at 630 AM and 8 PM. but do you think cutting off ALL contact with "outsiders" will aid in the situation or cause hindrance as she is use to us as it is and doesnt pee when seeing us. what i mean is, that we will think everything is all right but as soon as she sees someone else shell go crazy and pee like before? im not sure this post is coherent but i hope you understand what I am trying to get at. I sure hope she grows out of this. :-/ also, sometimes shell pee when meeting lil dogs but is fine with big dogs like labs/retrievers and such. :confused:

I think it's ok for her to be around other people, as long as the people she meets will listen to you :) Since she's only doing this when she sees strangers, then I encourage you to let her meet other people. I would just make your rules very clear to people that she meets. If they can't comply, then you shouldn't have them over. It is, after all, your dog & people should respect your wishes because ultimately you're the one who has to deal with this & you want to curb this behavior of hers. So yes, I think she should definitely be interacting with other people (I didn't know that she didn't do the submissive peeing with you ... I thought she did it with you as well). Just be very clear & tell them that they can't talk to her or play with her etc until she calms down. Like others have said on here, get her to sit. Getting her to sit usually helps a lot & it usually calms them down.

-Amy

When people come tell/make her sit while being greeted (treat and praise her when she sits). Dogs can't pee while sitting and if done enough she should eventually automatically sit when someone approaches her as a dog learns by repition and positive reinforcement. Hope this helps.:aimeeyork

Aww V! I'm sorry she hasn't grown out of this yet! But at least this thread has given you a lot of hope! I don't know how I could help but, if you think of a way just let me know. We could go somewhere and I could keep approaching her and ignore her until she's in her sit stay. If she got out of her sit, I could stand up and ignore her again until she sits again. I don't know if it'd work.

I've never had a problem with the excitement peeing, but my boys would go crazy if someone came in the door. Jake is quiet, but Jackson can be a wild boy. I kept working with them to "sit" and "stay" when people come in, and they do pretty well now. I also told people to just ignore them for a minute and then they can go pet them. I also told them to not talk to them in an excited type of voice because that would just make them more excitable. If you can get people to listen, it does work really well and they stay a lot calmer when someone comes in. I'm sure if your little one was calmer when they came in, the peeing would stop.

Just tell them to ignore her....or get peed on;):D

lol thats a great way to get people to listen to you. Either you can ignore her for a few minutes, or she can pee on your feet and pretty shoes. If someone put it that way, I'd be more willing to ignore her cute little face!!! That's the problem, Bindi is just sooooo adorable, people can't resist her sweet face! Especially when her tongue curls up! lol!

My yorkie did the same thing at three months when I first brought her home. She's now ten months and she recently did it again about three weeks ago when I went out of town for two days and left her with my niece. Other than those two times she have not peed, but she does get extremely excited when people come around especially my family.

Callie didnt do it when we first got her but then started doing it about a month and a half after we got her but has grown out of it except on a rare occasion like when she sees the trainer who did her puppy class in petsmart but its very rare but when she did do it it didnt matter if she was on the floor or in your arms she would still do it, many times me or my mom would get piddled on.

Besides the "no eye contact" and "no touch" rule I also insist that strangers get down on their haunches to communicate or touch any of my furbabies. Leaning over them to touch them is a sure fire way to get a dribble on the floor. Chipper also dribbles if someone uses a high-pitched "eeeeee" sound when they see my Yorkies. My daughter is a major culprit in this department when she visits. Drives me nuts. You'd think someone with her brains could remember that rule from an earlier visit.:confused::confused::confused: Common sense escapes her.:eek: As I said, it drives me nuts.

Thanks everyone! I will take all this info and put it to good use. Today is memorial day and we are having a BBQ/pool "party" (heh, just like 3 ppl are coming) so it is perfect to test it out. I will phone everyone and make sure they know the "rules" prior to their arrival. Im going to try to work on getting neighbors to stop acting like loons when they see her (youd think theyd never seen a dog before). lol thanks jill for the offer if i remember correctly a few months back you wanted to go to atlantic ave or some street (sorry i dont remmeber exactly) to see if you can get people to greet meeks while seated. looks like i have to do the same too! thanks again. well *crosses fingers* lets hope this works!! Guess i know in a few months.
Happy Memorial Day All!!
*off to rub steaks*
~V

Good luck with Bindi and your pool party today!!! Wish I had some advice but you are such a good little mommy and I know you will eventually get it under control :)

I'm sorry you are dealing with this! It's frustrating, but there is hope!

1. NEVER punish (no scolding or anything) when your dog does this...it will only increase the anxiety and the submissive urination will only get worse.

2. Do ignore her when she gets so excited. Do not touch her, talk to her, or pet her. No looking at her...nothing. Get your company to do the same.

3. Teach her basic obedience and have her sit politely to meet company. This may mean allowing your company to come in and ignore her UNTIL she settles down.

4. Make sure when people do approach her, they are NOT talking in an excited, high pitched, or fast tone. Have them say nothing, and have them crouch down and put their hand out to sniff it. They can say "Good dog," in a low, slow monotone voice. At the first sign of anxiety (lots of wiggling, lots of jumping, etc) have the person get and walk away.

5. When you know company will be coming over, walk her very well. Give her pleny of opportunities to relieve herself.

6. NEVER make a big deal of coming home or leaving home to her. This goes for company as well. If you use an excited tone or compose yourself in a giggly wiggly way, this will increase her anxiety and cause her to urinate.

A lot of times a dog that submissively urinates has low self esteem. This is not always the case, but it is a possibility. Play tug with her daily and let her win 90% of the time until she starts becoming more confident and the submissive urination starts occurring less. At this time, discontinue tug all together to avoid giving her dominance issues.

If she does pee, ignore her. Clean up the mess quietly, and make sure to use an enzymatic cleaner (like Nature's Miracle) to rid the area of the smell.

I also suggest doing desentization techniques with respect to the door and door bell.

Please feel free to pm me if you would like instructions on working with her more. I have had many clients with dogs who have this issue. It takes patience, time, and consistency but you can (in most cases) get past these issues and have a confident dog who can "hold her own" sort to speak!

By the way, my lab/pit mix Lucy used to have this same issue. She no longer suffers from excited pee!;)