Well actually, the 'extended' name is the Biewer Yorkshire Terrier a la Pom Pon. (But that's kind of a mouthful, isn't it?)
Depending on who you ask now it's been shortened, change a bit and they are refered to as either Biewer Terriers, or Biewer Yorkshire Terriers.

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I can't comment on the Biewer questions since there are a number of Biewer registries with different rules and I don't know if any allow Biewer (parti gene) carriers to show in classes.

Again, standards for many breeds were written years ago prior to the scientific knowledge and DNA testing that we have today. If you review the YTCA's website, it states that:

"One of the reasons for avoiding breeding "off-colored" Yorkies is because it could be a genetic defect that may affect the dog's health. Some health problems can include, but aren't limited to, severe skin problems, allergies, total hair loss and in some cases long-term illness and/or death."

With the exception of the blue born yorkies, we know that the above statement is false. The other off colored yorkies are no more prone to health or illness problems, than the standard yorkies are. So that reason, for not breeding off colors, is a poor reason. This sounds like something people in the early 1900's would have thought because they knew no better; back in those days, that's what they were told, that off colors were genetically damaged, weak and unhealthy.

An ETCHIAL breeder (as you stated) does not breed dogs that are not to the written standard" but unfortunately, many YTCA members have been breeding outside the standard for years and will probably continue to do so in the future. Red leg, black and tan and yorkies with dark golden points have been used and will most likely continue to be used, in breeding programs to enhance the color of their show stock. So why is it ok to breed, raise and sell some off colored yorkies but it's not ok to breed, raise and sell other off colored stock? That's what I don't understand?

Thank you. In addition to what you wrote, i ave not heard of any health issues that are related to the parti colored yorkies specifically.

Perhaps there were parti coloreds produced, but they kept it hushed like yorkie breeders have been doing for years.

From what I read on the standards set by the Biewer club of America, the chocolate coloring would not have been allowed. but I am not familiar with any of that, I'm just going by what i read on the Biewer club website.

Never say Never.

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I could not have said it better myself. In addition, the standards have been changed in the past and no doubt will be changed again. You can bet if the parti color becomes popular enough, the standard will be changed. And "yorkiekist" perhaps that is what you are afraid of and that is why you are so adement that these colors not be bred.

I think we can all agree on that.

Thank you Nudiva37!!! :)

That is how all new breeds get started is from people who are brave enough to face this type of opposition and breed outside the standard.

And yes parent club change their standards all the time to what ever is popular with the dog lovers.

thank you for your kind hearted support. This is mild compared to some of the discussions on this subject. We parti lover have gotten quite tough but I doubt that it is any different than any other group has gone through when attempting to make changes to the standard.

I personally don't even care if they change the standard. just allow us to breed these beautiful dogs so they can earn their place just as the Biewers have.

The wording might deem us to be unethical, but i cannot see how it is considered to be so as long as our first concern is the health and temperament of the offspring.

Awwwwwwwww that was so nicely put. I'm guessing that you are very nice too. :)

Very interesting.... Thank you . :aimeeyork

I appologize for so many posts in a row, it;'s just taking me a while to get caught up.