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Olivier 05-13-2008 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Mybabyboymax (Post 1983378)
let me start off by saying I am really hoping that this thread can stay positive and I was not going to start it because I was afraid it would turn into drama but I have been here a little over a year and I still dont understand something. The word teacup is not to be used to describe your puppy because there is no such thing as a teacup yorkie...but "tiny" is ok. Im sorry but I dont get it. they are both words used to describe the size of their dog. I understand that bad breeders use "teacup" to charge more money but breeders use "tiny" to charge more money as well. I have never seen a litter of pups being sold on here where the "tinies" were priced at the same amount as the bigger ones. People come on here and say they have a teacup and right away members are telling them that theres no such thing and thats just used to charge more money...but its the same people who use the word tiny and charge more money. I must be missing something(like always :D) anyone care to elaborate?

I am sure , you would do the same as the one you referred to .

jencar98 05-13-2008 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Olivier (Post 1984829)
I am sure , you would do the same as the one you referred to .


What?? :confused:

sheilajom 05-13-2008 04:20 PM

I agree, I have never understood why they charge more for girls than boys either. It doesn't cost more to birth a girl than a boy. Some breeders vary prices greatly, but sell with a pet only clause. If they are all going to be a pet and can't breed, then why the price variations? They can't show them if the get them fixed. So it doesn't make any sense. It's like putting a value on each of your kids with a different amount.

Amber_lv 05-13-2008 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Sookie (Post 1984074)
Aside from the fact that some breeders use the word teacup to sell their puppy for more money, why is it not ok to use the word "teacup" as a descriptive term? Personally, I'm not bothered by it and I think that some people get too defensive. I would correct a few people at first who would ask "Is she a teacup?" but I don't really care anymore. I just say "She's 3 1/2 pounds". Call her what you want. :)

I agree, The amount of work time and money that go into the smaller ones(teacup, Tiny) is a lot, They are way more expensive to keep than a normal size yorkie. You have to think of the time involved caring, feeding, keeping safe and also most breeders keep the small ones for a lot longer and that in turn is yet more money in food, vet bills etc. I don't agree with the use of the name as a selling agent to scalp uneducated people out of their money but the word doesn't bother me.

Honestly if people did any reaserch before they buy a dog they would be educated enough to see that paying $5000.00 for a dog out of the same litter as one being sold for $1500.00 because it is being advertized as a tea-cup, mini, micro mini, teaspoon or anyother name they are called would be able to walk away with their money and not be scammed.

As long as there is uneducated buyers that don't take the time to learn the breed standard and care of them there will be price gouging and scams going on. Serious i have had people ask me if mine 2 were yorkies or yorkshire terriers like there was a difference:confused::eek:

I wanted to add i don't feel you should breed for tiny dogs but it does happen in a normal litter. Nor do i feel that the small ones should be thousands more than a reg size one but i can see a little higher price to recoupe the extra cost.

Mybabyboymax 05-13-2008 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Olivier (Post 1984829)
I am sure , you would do the same as the one you referred to .

hmmm, not sure I know what you are trying to say. can you explain please:)

Mybabyboymax 05-13-2008 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jencar98 (Post 1985018)
What?? :confused:

:thumbup:huh???lol

melanie daley 05-13-2008 07:19 PM

I feel the same way as the OP on all of that, in addition I hear a lot of the term "teapot" but when "teacup" is used, everyone is up in arms about it!! I don't get that at all (I understand the use of the word to obtain more profit for the pup, which I feel is wrong)... The only other thing I can think of is they are possibly making fun of the whole "teacup" thing...
:confused::eek::confused::eek:

PrincessDiana 05-13-2008 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by melanie daley (Post 1985547)
I feel the same way as the OP on all of that, in addition I hear a lot of the term "teapot" but when "teacup" is used, everyone is up in arms about it!! I don't get that at all (I understand the use of the word to obtain more profit for the pup, which I feel is wrong)... The only other thing I can think of is they are possibly making fun of the whole "teacup" thing...
:confused::eek::confused::eek:

I know there are varying opinions on this but I personally feel like the term "teapot" is absolutely making fun of the term "teacup". Why else would we use it with such jest? Without breeders taking advantage of people by calling small dogs "teacups," "teapots" would not exist.

mypreciouspups 05-13-2008 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Mybabyboymax (Post 1983378)
let me start off by saying I am really hoping that this thread can stay positive and I was not going to start it because I was afraid it would turn into drama but I have been here a little over a year and I still dont understand something. The word teacup is not to be used to describe your puppy because there is no such thing as a teacup yorkie...but "tiny" is ok. Im sorry but I dont get it. they are both words used to describe the size of their dog. I understand that bad breeders use "teacup" to charge more money but breeders use "tiny" to charge more money as well. I have never seen a litter of pups being sold on here where the "tinies" were priced at the same amount as the bigger ones. People come on here and say they have a teacup and right away members are telling them that theres no such thing and thats just used to charge more money...but its the same people who use the word tiny and charge more money. I must be missing something(like always :D) anyone care to elaborate?

:thumbup::thumbup: great thread and great question..
I feel the same way.. and teenie is used too I believe.. I do not like that a breeder uses this term to get more money.. but your right.. tiny, teenie. and teacup are all words used to descibe small.. small....anne

mypreciouspups 05-13-2008 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by PrincessDiana (Post 1985579)
I know there are varying opinions on this but I personally feel like the term "teapot" is absolutely making fun of the term "teacup". Why else would we use it with such jest? Without breeders taking advantage of people by calling small dogs "teacups," "teapots" would not exist.

Before I joined this forum.. a girl down south called her girl a teapot.. I was so upset with her.. to me she was really putting down the size of her yorkie.. yet she loves her to death.. she is like their child.. but hates that she is bigger then what she expected..
I saw it on here and thought.. oh I guess she had heard that term before..anne

melanie daley 05-13-2008 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by PrincessDiana (Post 1985579)
I know there are varying opinions on this but I personally feel like the term "teapot" is absolutely making fun of the term "teacup". Why else would we use it with such jest? Without breeders taking advantage of people by calling small dogs "teacups," "teapots" would not exist.

Thanks!!! I didn't think I was totally nuts!! I just think it's so funny when the same people that call their own yorkies "teapots" get furious when someone posts anything with the word "teacup" in it... I guess it would be safe to say there is no such thing as "teapots" either??!! HeHe :D:D

PrincessDiana 05-13-2008 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by melanie daley (Post 1985614)
Thanks!!! I didn't think I was totally nuts!! I just think it's so funny when the same people that call their own yorkies "teapots" get furious when someone posts anything with the word "teacup" in it... I guess it would be safe to say there is no such thing as "teapots" either??!! HeHe :D:D

I think the difference though, is that people who use the term "teacup" are generally misinformed and need to be corrected. People who use the term "teapot" know that teacups don't exist, just like teapots don't exist. Both are terms used for referencing the size of a Yorkie. However - the term teacup is used mainly by breeders who want to take advantage of buyers, or buyers who are about to be lied to and cheated out of their money. Hence the corrections. It is also used by snooty people who think their dog is better than yours because it weighs 2lbs.

mypreciouspups 05-13-2008 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by PrincessDiana (Post 1985634)
I think the difference though, is that people who use the term "teacup" are generally misinformed and need to be corrected. People who use the term "teapot" know that teacups don't exist, just like teapots don't exist. Both are terms used for referencing the size of a Yorkie. However - the term teacup is used mainly by breeders who want to take advantage of buyers, or buyers who are about to be lied to and cheated out of their money. Hence the corrections. It is also used by snooty people who think their dog is better than yours because it weighs 2lbs.

my friend and myself went to a pet expo in florida in the winter.. she saw a yorkie and went up to the woman.. my friend asked how old the yorkie was.. when she heard she said oh I guess she will stay small.. woman said well she better for that is what I paid for.. I could have slapped her.. snooty was not the word for it..anne

katelin 05-13-2008 08:23 PM

What would you want a breeder to say when describing the size of a puppy? I think a 4-5 lb. dog is "small". What would you call a dog that might be 3 lbs.?

My opinion on the male/female thing is the females cost more because more people want them. Not to breed but more likely because they think males are harder to house train. They don't want a "marker". So the females are more expensive.

I personally don't try to educate everyone I meet. If they are buying a puppy from me -- then I take all the time in the world to make it clear what the standard is.

PrincessDiana 05-13-2008 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by katelin (Post 1985666)
What would you want a breeder to say when describing the size of a puppy? I think a 4-5 lb. dog is "small". What would you call a dog that might be 3 lbs.?

My opinion on the male/female thing is the females cost more because more people want them. Not to breed but more likely because they think males are harder to house train. They don't want a "marker". So the females are more expensive.

I personally don't try to educate everyone I meet. If they are buying a puppy from me -- then I take all the time in the world to make it clear what the standard is.

Why do they even have to say "small"? Why can't they just say __ lbs?


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