just look here. PETA KILLS ANIMALS :thumbdown
http://www.petakillsanimals.com/petaKillsAnimals.cfm

I puppy mills one side of the spectrum and Peta on the other, with most of us somewhere in the middle, and I believe both extremes are cruel.

I agree with you guys PETA sounds like control freaks like MyFairLacy mentioned. They need to be put in place. I agree with stopping breeding with bybs and puppy mills I would like them to disappear completely! I do not agree with pets gone completely its ridiculous! I would be living in one sad world and I refuse! I hear every day therapy dogs help sick people and people who have stress related problems.

:thumbdown:thumbdown:thumbdown for PETA killing animals. I will never support that organization! I am disgusted to see that a lot of celebrities still donating money to them!:mad:

I just don't understand why people can't do the right thing, I wouldn't want Jasmine in the wild...I couldn't protect her or provide a roof over her head for her....

thanks for the wake up call
 

that article really opened my eyes! :eek: I had no idea what PETA has been up to. No companion animals??? Leave them to go into the wild??? These babies are not equipped to live in the wild!!!!!!! :eek: My G-d! These people are crazy!!!
~Melody

About the post wanting to stop breeding: I believe YT is able to contribute to less breeding by removing the Featured Breeders, Yorkies for Sale, and even the Nursery sections (and one can go so far as saying the Breeders forum, I'm sure you will). New people sign on to YT just to sell puppies (posting for sale threads with 5 posts etc..). Irresponsible breeders probably do more breeding than normal believing that they'll sell on YT. Anyone can pay money to be a Featured Breeder. I think it might bite into new membership but not by much, which will be good if it's only people looking to sell puppies. It's an outlet to irresponsible breeders period and buyer's have a false sense of security. YT is a big forum and influential to the breed. YT obviously contributes to the Yorkie community wonderful information by caring people, but the contributation to overpopulation should be thought about. JMO.

This is a COMPLETELY one sided article and states nothing about what PETA or the HSUS has done to improve the welfare of YOUR ANIMALS.

Frankly, I am shocked at the extremism I've seen in the replies on this thread - from what I see, you'd fit right in at "extremist" PETA, according to how y'all describe them.

If PETA weren't here, you could picture your own babies right this minute in:

***Automobile crash tests

***Live vivisection

***Medical school anatomy labs

***Cosmetic testing (that is now replaced by computer models)

I could go ON and ON - PETA did ALL of this, when NONE of it was "fashionable". And, you know what ELSE was "borne" of PETA - all the other more "direct-care" organizations that care for the animals - which are also necessary.

Yes, PETA can be annoyingly radical - but sometimes you need a pie in the face to even know that it's there. You need the left, you need the right - and you need the middle - so I believe there is a PLACE for all of these organizations and for ALL of their accomplishments and missions. And, when you bash the crap out of one of them - I think you hurt all of them.

PETA is, essentially, a lobbyist organization - and, unfortunately - the animals need a lobbyist organization as well as direct care organizations.

I agree. No one organization is perfect but please people read all the sides not just one. I am not a card carrying PETA person but they have done a great deal of good for the general welfare of many animals the world over.

I think the threads for selling yorkies should be elimated on this board and the featured breeders section. This should be a forum just in my opinion to talk about yorkies and help others learn about the breed and brag about what a wonderful breed this is. This can be a great place for imformation but shouldn't be about selling them :)
Ok throw the book at me LOL...I love what this post was about!

PETA wants us to have no animals and are better left to fend for themselves out in the wild....they ethunize (can't spell the word) just as much as a shelter will and go to people's homes and says they will resuce their unwanted pet and then take them out to their vans and put that dog to sleep just after telling the previous owner who thought their animal would be adopted to another family but only to be put to sleep and then dumped in the a garbage bin...is that how you want to support PETA and is that an ethical way to treat animals? There are better organizations out there for the welfare of animals and that treat animals more humane than PETA or the SPCA of the US.
I"m not extremist by any means but PETA is one of the worse propaganda pet organizations out there! Just my opinion agree with it or not :)
Donna

I dont support Peta at all. They are too radical for me

I Totally agree - while I don't think ALL breeding should be stopped ...there needs to be limits on how many litters a breeder can have - there's just too many people throwing 2 dogs together these days :( I don't mean just yorkies - it's all breeds. When people think they can make easy money - many do and most of them have NO freakin clue to what they're doing to the population of pets - which has exploded.

Our shelters are FULL. ALL THE TIME.

I used to be a member of the PETA org and while they're a bit WAY out there and extreme - they've done ALOT TO HELP ANIMALS.

They may be controversal but I think in the long run their goal is to help animals. The bad press may be true but overall in the BIG PICTURE - they really do get out some serious messages and educate people who really don't know what's happening in our country.

Same with the HUMANE Society - everyone screws up - we aren't perfect but in my opinion - they too CARE about animals.

If we didn't have these orginazations the pet population would be even WORSE than it is now - the animal testing would be WAY WORSE and many many more dogs/cats and other animals would be put to sleep .....

Let's not forget - if it wasn't for these extremists - FUR WOULD BE STILL POPULAR and we all know how fur coats etc are made. :( :(

Thank God the world (at least our country) is waking up to the torture and cruelty involved in the fur industry and it's BECAUSE of these groups that the word is out there.

oops not contributation lol, contribution would be correct. I can't believe I made up a word lol

I use to be an avid supporter of Peta, and refused to believe some of the more extreme "rumors" I heard about them. However, with their primary goal of eliminating pet ownership, it doesn't matter how much good they have done in the past. Laws initiated by them would indeed hurt the ethical breeder as much as the puppymiller because they do indeed want ALL breeding stopped. As I suggested in post 6 for those of you who find it hard to believe all the things you've hard about Peta, please watch the HBO documentary: I Am An Animal: The Story of Ingrid Newkirk and PETA . This was not done as a bash piece and does show some of their good work, but most importantly, it allows Ms. Newkirk to speak for herself about her goals. I think some of you need to hear for yourselves what she has to say. I realize many people believe that the end justifies the means, but we must remember her main goal is the elimination of all pets.

I agree
 

I agree with some of this. I think there needs to be some legislation to monitor breeding and the ethical treatment of animals. Right now, these are the groups with the power of lobbyists to influence the closing of puppy mills. If closing puppy mills means tighter regulations on all breeders I think it is worth it. That being said, I couldn't do without my babies. I think having pets is a symbiotic relationship that benefits both animals and people.

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Elaine

Me too
 

I totally agree with you!!!

I've actually seen it twice - and I still support PETA for *some* of what they do - as I always have. It didn't change my mind about anything - I just learned more about why Ingrid is the way she is.

I think that if selective breeding never existed, animals would be better off. This goes for horses, cows, dogs, cats, etc. Ultimately, I would love for people to get to that point. However, since breeding is here, we owe something to the animals whose 'wild' survival instincts have been bred out of them.

I think some of us need to be reminded that animals are not here for our entertainment.

So why would you say that they are here? Are they not here to provide us with food? Are they not here to remind us of how magnificent our Creator is in the variation and wonder of His creations? Are they not here to help us and in return enjoy our protection and affection? Having a pet is an honor and responsiblity that should not be taken lightly but God forbid it should be taken away! Selective breeding has given us beautiful animals that are of the size and temperment to fit our individual tastes and lifestyles. It should always be done with the animals welfare in mind working to create a healthy, happy breed. I disagree that animals would be better off without selective breeding, nature would and in the wild does cause selective breeding by survival of the fittest. It is a harsh cruel world out there and pets bring beauty and love into it.

I agree with this completely. I'm a member of a maltese forum that does not allow the sell of animals on there. And I'm a member of another forum that doesn't even allow you to mention your kennel or another breeder at all..no form of advertising or talking about breeders is allowed at all. I don't like that YT has puppy sales on here at all. For one thing, it gives many buyers a false sense of security...

And YT doesn't make any money from the regular for sale section. While you have to donate to be a featured breeder or to sell clothing and such, you don't have to donate (or even have posted before) to place a for-sale ad. I just don't see the point in having puppy for-sale sections...

I'm sorry but there is no way I can support an organization, PETA (or any like org.) that use the extreme measures they use to get a point across...

There have been many other organizations and clans that have also used extreme measures to get their point accross and I don't think many of you would support those organizations either...

PETA kills animals ...PERIOD...Would you give your pet up to them?...I know some of you support some of what they do but if you can't stand behind all the extreme measures they take then please do not support them...

Yes, there are too many dogs, cats, etc in shelters today...I am a firm believer that if every breeder would rehome pets that came from their breedings there would be no need for shelters..

Stopping all breeding means the extinction of all dog breeds or public nusiance of stray, wild dogs in communities...HMmmm I don't see anything better about that!

~Laura

well then throw a book at me too LOL because I've wanted to see the for sale forums go for a long time...

I do not believe breeding should be stopped. I DO BELIEVE IF YOU ARE BREEDING TO BETTER THE BREED AND ARE PLACING IN REPUATABLE CHECKED OUT HOMES ALL SHOULD BE WELL. IF BREEDING WAS STOPPED WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO HAVE THE BABIES WE HAVE NOW!

IM THANKFUL FOR TRUE EDUCATED SHOW BREEDERS THAT BREED TO BETTER THE BREED!:thumbup:

KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK AND THANK YOU FOR ELIMINATING ANYTHING IN YOUR LINES THAT WOULD CAUSE BIRTH DEFECTS LATER ON I COMMEND YOU FOR STARTING YOUR BREEDING PRACTICES ALL OVER AGAIN AND I ALSO COMMEND YOU FOR HAVING A HEALTH GUARANTEE FOR LONGER THAN A YEAR! JUST MY 2 CENTS!

:thumbup: I've always said that PETA has done some great things as well, but I believe their intentions are really for the wrong reasons. They don't want to stop suffering of animals...in their own way they want to continue it. They want to eliminate our pets completely. I can't support an organization that wants to take my babies away from me

I AGREE 100%