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Is my 2 year olds trainer mean? Thanks for all the encouragement regarding my 2 year old Yorkie I got(purchased) 2 weeks ago.I never had a dog before and she was never socialized, spent her first 2 years in a house , never wore a collar, etc.I hired a trainer(sined a contract!) to come to my house, he has her on a tie down( a 12 inch leash) He wants her there if she is not out with me learning to potty, essentially all day. He says she can not go on the bed, furniture and doesn't want me to hold and coddle her. He says she will never get housebroken if I contine to do this. He is helping me to condition her to get used to her crate. But some of his methods only make her tremble more. Help! |
I might be wrong, but I personally would not tolerate that treatment toward my baby. |
oh my gosh. i would agree with some things but not being able to hold and cuddle her!?!? if she wasn't socialized then what she needs first and formost is to give her attention and all of those things. thats JMHO, maybe someone else thinks differently but thats just my 2 cents. and i think a 12 inch lead is waaaaay too short!!!! i would say keep looking. |
Sounds a little harsh. I cuddled and kissed both of my dogs ALL the time and they're both fully potty trained.....and in under 6 months. I think it's YOUR dog and you should only allow what you feel comfortable. |
I have a call into the owner of the dog training place. I hope we can come to an "understanding". They should have known she need more time to get used to her new surroundings and should have told me to wait. Do Yorkies respond to obedience training like ringing a bell to go out to potty and "take your place"? |
what did the contract state? Either way you look at it, you hired this person and you're paying this person for a service. |
I have never heard of someone not being able to cuddle, snuggle, and love their dogs. I would definitly question this with the trainer. I don't see what that has to do with housetraining? |
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There are as many different training methods out there as there are trainers and I think it is important that the trainer share your philosophy of dog discipline just as you would want a nanny to share your philosophy of child rearing. Praise and positive reinforcements are the key. Did you interview the trainer at length and did he explain his philosophy and methodology before you signed the contract? If not, then you can get out of the contract if you do not agree with his training methods or feel he is a bad match for you and your baby. Any trainer worth his salt will not hold you to a "contract" if you disagree with their methods. They should want a good match as much as you do. Pm me if you need help getting out of the contract or if I can help further. |
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WHOA!!!!!!! No holding, cuddling, nothing?? What kind of trainer is this? Are you sure that they are trained to train family dogs?? I am a lisenced trainer and no way in hell would I ever ever tell some one to do these things. This dog needs to know that you love her first and foremost. As soon as you win this dog over and he/she knows that you arne't going to hurt it, she will be much better off.... You signed a contract?? For a trainer?? Doesn't make sense to me. I have never dealt with trainers that have you sign a contract. |
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My advice would be to get out of the contract. I don't agree w/ their teaching method at all. |
Sounds like this trainer has mistaken ur yorkie for a grate dane?! No cuddles???? thats sad!!!! yorkies thrive on love, cuddles and praise!!! The training hes giving your yorkie sounds very harsh to me, i agree with teaching obedience, but this breed is a lot different to other breeds, i have a labrador pup of 10 months and 2 yorkies, 7 and 4 months, the lab gets different teaching then what my little ones do! I would take advice that u know u can use and forget about what u cant! There is NO way i would every tie up a yorkie or any dog for that matter unsupervised!! |
The trainer wants her tethered to a sofa leg on a 12" length if she is not crated or out trying to potty. That was she will have no chance to make a "mistake" he doesn't want her to sleep with me but "too bad" I let her. She seems to be coming around on her own. I wish the vet had never recommended this place. Anything I can do to stop her panting and shakes in the car?(and in public places) She is sooooo scared. I take her on short trips to get her used to . Thanks to all. |
Your trainer sounds a litlle extreme to me also. I would just keep taking her on short little trips to get her used to going places. |
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I never heard of anyone tying down a dog. We tie down stud colts, but that's different there big and strong and need to learn who's boss. This dog seems like it's scared ****less. I think what it really needs is to learn that you love her more than anything and would never do anything to hurt her. Once she loves and trusts I think being scared of everything will go away in time because she knows you would never let anyone hurt her. If the point of the tie down is to keep her confined so she doesn't go off to some discreet area and potty, i would just use an x-pen or playpen instead. I think the tie down would be scary and might hurt her little neck if she decides to pull. I couldn't stand seeing my little guy tied fast, i could barely stand it when they used to do it to my horses. |
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i really think you should look elsewhere. this man obviously doesn't know what he's dealing with here! |
I am scared and I don't put her on the tie down. I'm afraid she will hurt her neck. He said no to a playpen because it gives her an area to "go" inside.She is still afraid of the crate. |
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They are very bright dogs. They can learn that's okay to go inside if it's a designated area. Get the pee-pad that are scented to smell like outside and it won't hurt training to go outside at all. I just say watch her and if you see her start to squat clap your hands to get her to stop going scoop her up and take her outside. Whenever you can't watch her put her in a playpen/x-pen with a scented pee pad. She will get the hang out it. Once she loves you she will wanna please you. Don't make her more scared of people. I think he's being a little tough on her. she might start to think that it's not okay to potty period and that's not what you want. I would recommend getting a book on yorkies it helped me a lot. I got Yorkies for Idiots i think, but a lot of people recommend Yorkies for Dummies also. I say no need for special tools yet just watch her like a hawk, have a lot of patience, and give her lots of love. |
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And he doesn't think she will "Go" in your living room tied to your couch? :confused: Please do not tie your dog to the couch and leave her unsupervised. I know of dog accidently tangling themselves up and end of hurting their neck or strangling themselves to death. :thumbdown I'm trying to figure our trainer out. I think I know what he is trying to do but as a trainer, I wouldn't not go that route. There are a lot better way of training that. I agree with SoCal "There are as many different training methods out there as there are trainers and I think it is important that the trainer share your philosophy of dog discipline just as you would want a nanny to share your philosophy of child rearing." |
I agreed with everyone, I dont like this trainer methods. Not to cuddle and keep her tied on a 12" leash, no way. I can't believe he is recommending you to do that. I prefer to keep her in a xpen, is more safer than being tied with a leash all day. I think that if you don't agreed with his methods you should dicussed it with him and tried to get a new trainer. Your baby is scared and what she needs the most is to know that you love her and will care for her. Good luck. |
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I personally would let that trainer go. You can teach your dog to potty outside and other things with love and consistency. It may take longer because she is older but I think what he is doing would be more damaging to the dogs personalty. My friend got a 3 year old yorkie that was never potty trained or socialized. Never even played with or loved on. He hated his carrier at first but now he is used to it. She has 2 other dogs and just loves on all of them all the time and the yorkie is just so playful and active now. ANd almost potty trained too. He made such a quick turnaround. |
I would get rid of him!! I have never heard of anything so crazy, tying down a little 6 lb dog. What does he think he is, would he like to be tied down? And I would make sure that you let the vet know his "training" methods, and if he thinks that's right I would get a new vet too :mad: ... |
Something else you have to consider here to is that according to what you said in your 1st post here, you have only had this dog for 2 weeks. I personally will not work with a dog (rescue or just adopted) within that time frame since the dog is not yet totally settled into its new home. Usually I will try to wait at least a month so that the dog has time to warm up and all that good stuff before I try to help some one with training. I will however give them pointers and that kind of thing to help the dog warm up to them. Expecting this poor little dog to come out of her shell in such a short time and then to have some strange man working with her is (IMHO) going to cause more harm then good. Give her a little more time to settle into your home. As you have said she came from a not so good situation so she needs some time to relax and settle in. :) :) |
I agree. The trainer should have known enough not to start the training until she had time to adjust. He's the expert. (not sure about that) |
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