We May Have to Rehome Logan :(
 

I have posted before about our housetraining woes with our 8-month old male Yorkie, Logan. I have housetrained dogs before and had not trouble, but it is not working this time.

I found a strict schedule to follow on-line, which requires a lot of crate time. With Logan being an energetic 8-month old puppy, keeping him in his crate for a good portion of the day leaves him with too much energy at night, and then he doesn't sleep through the night.

But even when I allow him some closely supervised playtime - about 15-20 minutes - after he potties outside, he STILL sometimes pees or poops inside the house. Just last night after I had taken him outside, we played "lightly" inside for about 15 minutes. I took him with me to the bathroom so that I could potty :) . As we were walking out of the bathroom, he stood on the carpet and peed!

Although we ring a bell, say "potty outside," and use the same door to go outside to potty, Logan has never given us any indication that he has to go potty outside. He doesn't stand by the door or do anything that would indicate he needs to go outside.

If he is not housetrained in 4 months - when he turns a year old - my husband says we will have to find a new home for him. We simply cannot keep a dog inside the house who pees and poops on the carpet. It will ruin our carpeting, and the house will start to smell badly.

This breaks my heart, but I understand.

IF we do have to rehome Logan, I would like to find a wonderful, caring, patient family for him - someone who does NOT hit dogs for any reason and a home without small children (Logan weighs only 3 lbs.). I will not put him on an airplane to get to his new home. It would have to be someone who is willing to drive to north Alabama to pick him up.

Is this a good forum to find a new home for a Yorkie?

toke my nicki almost two years
 

the smaller they are the harder it is thought it woild never happen then oe day tah dah but you do whats best for you

Well, it wount be hard to get him a new home. I assume lots of people will want him because he is only 3 lbs. Some of them with good intentions and some NOT!!!.Did you try crate training? With wee wee pads??* And last but not least, they sell belly bands, its like a small diaper that the dogs use, very effective.Also, neutering might help, but I am against it, plus at 3 lbs, I dont think its too smart to do the operation.Good luck, and I hope you can keep the little guy. There are way to fix this problem.

Apparently Yorkies are the hardest dogs to house train. Keep at it. Suzy still has accidents inside and she's 7 months old now. All I can suggest is trying to keep your carpets cleaned regularly, I do mine every 2 weeks and get some sort of product that eliminates the odour so your doggy doesn't smell the urine in the carpet and repeats the action.

Have you tried belly bands? A lot of YT members seem to have had success with this.

I'd hate to think that you'd have to rehome him over something like this. :(

You might want to try belly bands for Logan. We use them for our new male and they're great. Also, if you have Logan on a good food and you schedule his feedings you will just about know when he has to go poop so that will help and maybe you won't have to rehome him.

Good luck!

Please, for his sake, if you are thinking about rehoming him, do it now.
It wouldn't be fair to him to continue to get attached to you.
Yorkies can be very difficult to potty train.
Mine is six and still goes in the house quite often.
We just adjust to her and put different flooring in that can be easily mopped.
Carpets aren't the best choice with Yorkies.
I think it is one of those things that you have to be willing to put up with if you are going to own Yorkies...

Yorkies do take a very long time to housetrain compared to other breeds I've owned in the past. I have a two year old and a one year old and I still have to be vigilant on getting them outside regularly because they don't always let you know.

I also have carpeting but we're having tiled installed this month on the entire downstairs floor just for yorkie purposes (and of course resell value in the future). I'd rather change the flooring then think of getting rid of my babies!

They're also full of boundless energy! Are you taking your baby Logan for long walks every day? He does need to have time to run around and use up that energy during the day. Is there a room with tiling you can block off to let him play in during the day instead of crating him so much?

I've found that my two usually do their "poo" on the first excursion out in the morning and after dinner during their long evening walk -- so about 12 hours apart. Knowing Logan's schedule will help get him outside when he needs to get his business done.

I know it can be frustrating at times but I hope you don't give up on your baby but if your husband is more worried about carpeting, perhaps a new home might be best for Logan because he will have accidents after a year old.

Its not easy... We've had Meka since 9 wks and at a yr old now, she's still got a ways to go. Im now thinking of getting her into training classes, because what we are doing doesnt seem to be 100% effective. Maybe you can trying looking into that as well... None the less, hope all works out for you :)

Yes, we are crate training. Have been at it for 6 months now. I take him out as late as 11-11:30 p.m., but he is still waking up in the middle of the night to potty. Last night I told him to go back to sleep, and he ended up peeing in the crate. We don't use the pee pads because we don't want him going inside the house.

The vet wanted to wait until he's a year old to neuter because he is so small, but I don't know that he's going to get much bigger than what he already is. His parents weigh only 4 pounds each.

We don't want to have to clean our carpets all the time. The point is to get him housetrained so that we don't have to worry about professionally cleaning the carpets every now and then or replacing carpet. We use a spray product that eliminates the odor. He doesn't potty in the same place over and over; it's always somewhere different.

I have not tried belly bands and don't know where to get them.

The prooblem is that he doesn't eat on a regular schedule. He doesn't want to eat when he gets up in the morning, so I keep trying to feed him at various intervals throughout the day. It's now 11 a.m., and he just ate for the first time today. Whenever he does eat, I wait about 15 minutes and then take him outside. He doesn't always poop then.

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If you're worried about pee smells, there is a product called Urine Erase. You can get it at pet stores. I've used it for cat urine before (and nothing is worse than that) and it gets rid of all smells and is non-toxic. I know this doesn't solve the training problem but it will get rid of any smells so the puppy doesn't know he used that spot before.

Have you ever had him tested for an infection? Good luck with your training!

I don't believe there is anything unusual or unkind in wanting to keep carpet clean. It's expensive, and it would be very expensive to replace with something else. We do have a tiled kitchen, and I keep him in there tethered to his leash at times. But if he still poops or pees on the tile, he's still not getting housetrained, although it's easier to clean up. The goal is to stop him from peeing and pooping in the house. It sounds like that is impossible, even when they are older.

My little girl is a yr old, 4 lbs and I have to make sure she goes outside every 30 minutes when we are home or she will go in the house. I set a timer in the kitchen to remind me. I also put a pee pad down which she will use for the most part. She still potties in her crate when I am at work, and I don't see that changing anytime soon which just means doggy laundry everyday. Her potty training is getting better, and I just keep praying and hoping for the day she goes and sits by the back door when she needs to go potty like Rocky does. Just stay consisted on feeding times and potty outings. Logan will get the hang of it.

OK first - if he is asking to go out in the middle of the night (even by waking up) why are you not taking him out?? He obviously had to go if he ends up going in his crate. We had to take Loki out in the middle of the night until he was at least 1 year old.

Why can't you just buy a carpet steamer? We bought a little bissell for like $60 and we've more than gotten our money's worth. The spot only smells if you don't clean it right! Enzyme cleaners are your friend.

I have 2 that are housetrained. It did take until the were a little older, but they got it! It is possible! (But, guess what, they still have rare accidents. And yes, they both know they are supposed to go outside and they are truly accidents - like they asked to go out and I was busy and they really had to go!)

BUT, even with fully trained dogs - it does not mean your carpets are not in danger. Mine puke on the carpet - steam cleaner! Heck my neighbor borrows our steam cleaner all the time for her LAB when he gets sick. It happens! Her dog ate and puked up a blue bone that is never coming out... :rolleyes:
We put wood downstairs and we'll replace the carpet upstairs before we move - but we would have done that anyway!

Oh and yes - if you crate him all day he will be hyper at night. Go for a very, very long walk and make sure he is EMPTY before bed. It helps, really!

There is hope but you really do have to be patient and be willing to tolerate a little mess. If you aren't willing to do that, then you might want to consider finding him a new home now. We got Sammy at 10 months and we love her! Re-homing isn't a bad thing even though it is hard.

Good luck!

why don't you take out your carpet and have all hard floors? I can't wait until I own my own house and can do that one day. I actually just had my carpet cleaned today...Lacy & Rylie still have occassional accidents. I'm thinking about putting bellybands and diapers on them just when I'm away from the house so pee won't get on the carpet in case they do have an accident. Why not try bellybands?

My boy is almost 3, and girl just made 2.... we REGULARLY have "accidents" inside and they both know that is not where the should go... I have learned over the years that it is the breed, they just have a hard time understanding why it is a problem.. haha
It surely takes TIME and you cannot take your eyes off them for even a minute...
Good Luck to you! If I can be of any help, please let me know...
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Would you like to pay for it? It's very expensive ;)

This morning I'm having a hard time getting him to go outside at all! For the past hour, I've taken him out twice, and he won't potty. I started using treats, so all he does is stand there looking at me, waiting for a treat. I tell him to "go potty" like I usually do, but he won't go. I have to leave for awhile and just hope he doesn't pee in his crate.

As for taking him out in the middle of the night, I usually do. But for a week, he didn't ask to go out in the middle of the night, so I knew it was possible for him to wait until morning. I thought maybe he was just getting in the habit of going outside in the middle of the night because at his age, he should be able to hold it for more than 2-3 hours.

Yes, we are crate training. Have been at it for 6 months now. I take him out as late as 11-11:30 p.m., but he is still waking up in the middle of the night to potty. Last night I told him to go back to sleep, and he ended up peeing in the crate. We don't use the pee pads because we don't want him going inside the house.


Is there water in his crate?

LOL.
I was talking to the vet about Ellie's potty training problems and she started to say that I need to crate her... And I said yes, I need to put her in the smallest crate possible and then I said we already tried that and she peed on herself. Then the vet gave up.:p

I know this has to be extremely frustrating for you!!!!! I know exactly how it is! I know this sounds really crazy but try to start getting him to use the pads and this will take a little while but after he gets use to using the pads eventually get the pad closer and closer to the door and take it outside. Atleast during this time it won't get on your carpet. I know you really don't want to rehome him!!! If that is him in your avatar..he is adorable. I live in bama and would take him!!

Personally I agree about having carpeting. I understand completely.

Now that being said....how often do you take him out? He is small....smaller means a smaller bladder and he'll need to go more often. I took mine out hourly...on a leash, repeated the go potty phrase...and stayed usually until someone went potty. I took them out immediately in the morning when they woke up and then hourly. I did not wait for signs...we just went. We also used the same door each and every time....with the hopes eventually they would know what going to that door meant.

With poops I think you just have to pay attention when he's going. Mine will both go first thing in the AM....and don't go again until we get home from work at 5. This has no bearing on when they've eaten. Sometimes they'll eat breakfast at home...and sometimes they wait until we're at work to eat.

To be honest I really think it was close to a year...before they really got it.

Another thing....Reese gets distracted....we'll let them out to potty. Ramsey will go immediately...then asks to come back in...Reese follows. Do a "pee pee" check on Reeser...nope not wet...but him back out.... you go potty Reese. :rolleyes:

I agree on this. Pee pads if put on tile at first is easy to clean. Just wipe daily that particular area with white vinegar-cheap and easy. When they get used to it you can try taking it outside when he is older. I just stay with pee pad and I put it on the tile. I don't have to worry about him having to go at night because he will go to his pee pad whenever he wants and when we do go out, he does it outside too. Best of both worlds.

Hmmm, when you take the puppy for a walk, have cheerios in your pocket, when you see him go pipi, Say - good boy pipi, give him 2 cheerios. Same thing when he goes #2. Good boy and then give him cheerio. Maybe this will make the connection between treat & potty. Consistency will get you through this.

The tinkle in the night could be he had a late sip, or I would wonder if he could have a urinary problem that may need antibiotics.

I don't believe Yorkies are HARD, Difficult to train. Zander came home in June 06, he hasn't had an accident in the house since Oct. 06, prior to me he had been allowed to potty on linoleum floors! Jazzie came home July 07, she has not had an accident since 11/07 as soon as I put the bells on the backdoor.

One day at a time, he will make the connection. :thumbup:

If it were my baby, I sure would. I personally would do anything I possibly could to keep my dog. I don't normally comment on rehoming threads but it seemed like you were asking for suggestions to try to keep him which is why I did decided to comment and offer advise. I know its frustrating to have them pee on the carpet...poop can at least be picked up. Like I said, I just had my carpet cleaned this morning and would love for it to stay pee-free. Pulling the carpet out isn't an option for me because I am not the owner of the house so I plan to use belly bands & diapers while I am away from the house because that is when accidents happen. Belly bands would at least be worth a try.

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Sounds like to me that you need to rehome him,yorkies are just like having a baby,its never ending work and they have small bladers so they cannot hold it like bigger dogs,i live in georgia and would be happy to be there for you and this is the best place to find him a new home,iits better for him to rehome him at this age so it want be so hard on him and i know your having a hard time it gets very frustrating but these babies can since this and they are little babies that want to please there parents,please pm me im here for you to talk.

I understand your frustration. Baxter just went 2 nights without going out in the middle of the night and I am ecstatic. He went out at 11pm and 5 am but that is all night at our house. Keep trying. He still has accidents on the floor even right after I take him out. Try confining him to a small room in the house instead of the crate during the day. Bax stays in our bathroom and I put down a puppy pad. He started using that during the day. I had to put some of his urine on it the first day but he has used it ever since. Keep trying!

Don't feel bad. It happens, Maggie just turned 2 years old and these last few weeks are the first that she slept through the night with out waking us up. We never thought she'd get potty trained.