I think the main problem with "backyard breeders" is they don't do the health screening that YTCA requires. If you don't do it you are a backyard breeder, if you indeed do it you are a hobby breeder.

Dee ((((((((((((((HUGS)))))))))))))))) I know you and Have met you You are a GREAT Lady and Who ever gave you the Rude reveiw Needs to Know you are not a Bad Breeder GRRRR That really upsets Me :( I am Trying Really Hard to be a "PP" But if one of my Friends has a Problem it is also MY problem. (((((HUGS)))) Hun I am here for you.

I just found this.
 

This is very interesting

http://www.woodhavenlabs.com/comparison.html

I don't think the term backyard breeder is always as negative as it sounds. Not a breeder i would personally buy from, but I wouldn't say they are necessarily bad people or don't love their dogs. In fact, many of them love their dogs and breed their pets for various reasons...they do so as a hobby and not profit. The ones that do it for profit are in a whole other category, and yes, I feel that those breeders are bad people. No one should use breeding as a business. I don't agree with backyard breeding practices, and like I said, I wouldn't personally buy from one, but I don't think all backyard breeders are bad people. Quality of dogs is subject to opinion as every breed and even judge has their preferences, but with health screening and breeding healthy dogs - it's either being done or its not (that is a black and white issue to me). Anyway, I'm certainly not talking about any breeders in particular - just speaking in general. Everyone has their opinions on what a backyard breeder is and isn't - I and a few others I know just have a very narrow view of what a reputable breeder is.

That's a good article.

Good, but I don't think everything is either black or white. I think this should be a sort of middle category there; not your either this or your that. Doesn't always fit.

May I ask, do you do health screening? That's really the important question.

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What is wrong with breeding for profit if you take good care of your dogs as well as pups? I dont mean puppymill profit.:(

I mean yorkies are a beautiful breed, they are wanted by people and making extra money is nice.

Im personally thinking of breeding . My husband and I are both home based missionaries to troubled teens in a residential setting and we would like our teenagers to be involoved. What a ministry! Dogs really have a way of ministering to people and teens without a purpose would love these little babies.

Just my opinion. I love animals and have always wanted to raise my own dogs.

:thumbup: :thumbup: I'd like to second that opinion about Dee. Not only have I met her, but I bought one of her puppys and he is a wonderfully awsome example of the yorkie breed. For any doubters of Dee's reputation a breeder, try reading these reviews.....
http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=110368
http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=113570

Why do we need such labels as BYB and Hobby Breeders anyway???? Why are we not just yorkie breeders?

Amen!
 

Amen to the labels...get rid of em!:mad:

There will always be labels until everyone breeds for the right reasons and the right way. There is a right and wrong way to breed. Most breeders just are not reputable and that's a fact. However, there are some wonderful ones out there too...they are just harder to find. I just cannot and will not ever support those breeding for the wrong reasons or the wrong way. Too many dogs are dieing in shelters, too many dogs are neglected and abused, too many dogs suffering because the breeder didn't screen their dogs...we have to always keep the best interest of the dogs at heart...however, most breeders are selfish and breed for selfish reasons..not for the love of the dogs and breed. I never said "breeder categories" were black and white issues...I said health screening was a black and white issue to me. Anyway, I just wish more people thought about the dogs before they bred or supported a breeder doing things the wrong way. These are living, breathing LIVES...not a product, not a toy, not an experiment, and certainly not a business. If someone can't breed with the best interest of the dogs in mind, they do not need to be breeding at all.

Thank you. rose, you and Lori are two of the sweetest nicest people on here. Never a mean word to anyone and you are right, why do we have to have labelss anyway. As Fair Lacy said, some people just have a very narrow opinion of what an ethical breeder is. Some are of the midset that unless you show, you aree unethical. Often that opinion is wrong but hey, you can't change peoples mind. I would just like to see people doing all the talking and etc, be the ones that have been to people's homes,, seen their dogs and yada, yada yada. otherwise, to me, they have no voice in the matter. I didn't mean to turn this into a Dee thread. I love all of you. The immature person I had the problem with just thought since she didn't like ME she had a right to review my "Low Quality" dogs.;) Started sending the pm's around and then harrassing me thru my website. THAT part of it has been turned over to the police by Freewebs and as far as the pm's they were turned in to admin. but that is just one person and her little group of friends. The majority of you guys know me and my dogs and are way too smart to listen to stuff like that. We all have to consider the source and again, I would say to the OP. Let these unkindd things roll off your back like water off a duck. As long as you know you are doing all the right things,, that's all that matters.

I am sorry that people are calling you too. Horrendous! Being the daughter of a "yorkie breeder" I've gained a little experience and knowledge over the past 16 years. There are people on here that will say mean things about you, in fact, they did about my mom's kennel. They've never met her, never talked to her, have never seen the beautiful kennel that my mom has built.

This reminds me of a funny (but at the time terribly awful) story that happened to my mom a few years ago. This lady called up and was inquiring about a female puppy - my mom told her what she had available, the price was right, blah blah. She came out to visit and 'decided' she wanted the puppy. Well, she said that she was going to go to her car and get the money. My mom was like, okay, no problem. Well, it took her forever and when my mom walked outside to see what was up, she was snapping pictures of my mom's house and property! My mom asked what she was doing and she said that she was a volunteer for the aspca or something like that and was going to report her. She asked for what, she said that "you're a dog breeder, and all dog breeders are puppy mills"
*What an ignorant thing to say to begin with.*

That ticked her off, my mother is not a violent person and I have never seen her do anything at all --- but she ripped that camera out of her hands, said some choice words and told her to get off our property or she was calling the cops. She ended up having the call the cops because the lady wouldn't leave.

THERE ARE NUTS! So just be careful. She had no basis for what she was doing. Our property is clean, as is the kennel, our house and our dogs. She is just a nut who thought she knew what she was doing, but of course she didn't.

By the way, it turns out that this person is the wife of my husband's stomach doctor! :yelrotflm

Listen, I got my puppy from a hobby breeder and I saw the mom and dad and she was wonderful to them. They were in great shape and in the house. I received a wonderful, well adjusted, self-assured,healthy and happy puppy. If I decide to buy another puppy I am sure I will call her first. I am sorry you are getting harassing phone calls. People can be so mean. Hang in there.