Why do people get so diffensive if you ask if their puppies are AKC registered?
 

I have been looking for another little yorkie and taking my time. I've been asking questions and so forth. I have now had three different people get pissy with me because I asked if their pups were AKC registered??
One person went so far as to tell me if doesn't make a difference what her pups were registerd as because know one knows the difference who purchases puppies. I was like okay, if you say so. I realize there is a lot of ACA and APRI pups out there. Does anyone else register their pups with anything other than AKC. Not trying to start a debate or anything I promise, just curious as to why people are so touchy with me asking this question when looking at pups.
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okay I realize I spelled defensive very very wrong lol.

I think it depends on the person you ask:confused: I would not be offended I dont think:rolleyes: .

Well, they are probably hoping you'll buy one of their puppies (too many people out for $$$) and when you ask that question and their puppies aren't, they get defensive.

Lacy's not AKC registered, but all my future yorkies will be (unless they come from a breeder out of the country). A lot of people say registration doesn't matter, and I guess it doesn't for a pet, but I plan to only buy from reputable AKC show breeders from now on so the puppies being registered AKC is kindof a must.

I don't think I would buy from someone who gets defensive about it. I guess I would be wondering if they are trying to hide something if they are defensive.

Not sure why someone would get defensive about that but imo the only reason for registering is if they were going to be showing. If the pup is only to be a pet, then why bother with registration? Just curious, not trying to start anything..

Maybe some people/"breeders" get defensive as they have lost their AKC priviledges due to poor record keeping, among other offences, and had to go to the more leanient, alternative registries such as APRI, CKC(continental) and others. I cant think of any other reason to act "embarrassed or defensive" because the dog is registered with these other "registries". But, then I would never look at anything but AKC or UKC or CKC(Canadian). If you are just looking for a pet to love and are not into breeding/showing, I dont think it matters what registry it is as long as its what you want. I dont get the defensive attitude from the "breeders" though. JMO

Thanks for the info everyone. I was a little shocked to as I hadn't had anyone with my shelties ever get that way but most of them were akc. I guess I have lots of new things to learn with yorkie breeders still. :)
I also agree, the lady that go angry, I just appologized and told her I didn't mean to upset her and deleted her email. The other people pretty much hung up on me on the phone. I mean it was a simple question, are your puppies AKC registered? Why get so angry, just say yes or no. I don't know. I was just curious. Thanks for the info everyone again!

I would personally would not purchase a puppy from a breeder who got defensive about having their pups registered. it makes me believe they have something to hide. if they were charging not alot of money for the dog, then why would they care if it was registered or not? i also, personally, would not buy a puppy that was not registered. breeders sell their pups under either full or limited registration. limited registration means that the pup can be registered with the AKC, however, if it had puppies, the puppies could not. Full registration is if u breed your pup, their pups can be registered. A good breeder will have its pups and dogs registered to show and/ or breed their dogs. When a dog becomes ill, such as liver shunt, they will usually not show and breed the dog anymore. If the breeder shows and breeds and registers the dog, i would feel more at ease that the pup i bought (for a pet) would not have liver shunt or any other disease.

You're nicer than me...I sure wouldn't have apologized...I'd reply and give her a piece of my mind. I certainly wouldn't buy from someone that gets defensive when I ask questions. A reputable breeder should happily answer any questions you have

:thumbup: :thumbup: I agree... although neither of my girls are registered.. Kayah's supposed to be CKC.. but I never sent in her form.. and Missy couldn't get Evie registered (which again, I don't care)
My babies are my babies.. and I don't care whether or not they are registered.. as long as they're happy and healthy.. that's all that matters to me:)
Then only time I'd care what the puppy is registered with is if I were planning on breeding OR if I didn't know the breeder

Now, If it matters to you.. then.. I wouldn't buy from anyone so defensive:thumbdown

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I think maybe a stranger would be offended by someone they do not know asking what registry their pup is with.

I mean why would you need that info if you are just looking at someones dog???
(are you buying from them or wanting to go through their breeder? if so say that first) you get so many uppity people who want to claim AKC and the dog looks like Y U C K ,if its a pet and healthy who cares really?


the only shame to be had is the breeders out there selling sick dogs and mixed breeds passing them off as purebred.

If you ask me anyone who is breeding should be willing to answer as many questions as their new potential homes need answered. If someone doesn't want to answer questions about their puppies I would look elsewhere real fast.

i have puppies now and my arent AKC

but they are registered with ckc, apr, napdr, & uapr

and whenever someone contacts me i praise them for asking questions because i know they care and are educating them selves before buying and i always end each email with " i am an open book, please feel free to contact me any questions on concerns by email or phone"

if they dont ask questions they worry me...

if they are truly clueless they worry me...lol i have one guy that keeps calling and he asked the same questions everytime about what color are they, they're yorkies they are born black and tan...and they will stay that color? no colors changel..then he started askig me about breeding and when i responded you want to breed them? he says no no i dont, then he stopped calling ...lol

I don't think anyone should get offensive at that question. It seems like in getting defensive they have something to hide...
If the breeder was really confident in the puppies he or she would just tell you what club they were registered with instead of getting upset!
I think you should look further and find a reputable AKC breeder to get a puppy from, and good luck!

ITA!! :thumbup: the defensiveness in itself would be a BIG RED flag to me...i would not want to deal with a breeder who would not answer every single question i had about their puppies, breeding practices and health history!!

They probably wish their dogs were AKC registered since that is the most recognized registry

yeah i find the only people who get offended are the people whos dogs dont fit the standard anyway... one person i was lookiing at buying from was like "well we breed pets not show dogs" i was like um. ok.

The only reasons I can think of that someone would be defensive is if 1) they have something to hide, or 2) you were being insulting with your questions. Now, you clearly were not insulting anyone or their dogs by asking that simple question which you certainly should be interested in, so...

I think that if you stand behind your dogs and what you are producing then you shouldn't mind ANY questions asked, regardless of what registry you are using. If you can't do that, well...

I talked to someone the other day about a female,the lady was very nice and then I asked was the puppy AKC, Well everything changed. She went on to tell me that the puppies regestered with AKC were not as good of quality and they would be really big dogs. She said that AKC was not a good program. I just said ( thank you so much for your time) and hung up the phone. I have had both AKC, and CKC. AKC you know more about what you are getting. I would not go with anything else.

Just curious, but how is this so? How do you know from the registry alone 'more about what you are getting?' I don't think you can determine the quality dog or breeder from the registry alone...

Any breeder who doesn't want you asking this is probably not reputable. I wouldn't waste my time with them. Registry is important to me as it is for a lot of people. It doesn't matter if I'm not breeding or not showing. AKC is my registry of choice and I would want even my pets registered. I would hope they would be standard though. When they are registered you can look at their bloodlines which is important to me.

You do mean a you know more about the registry??
just b/c the dog is AKC doesnt mean he is to standard or isnt a mix.
People will lie just to get what they want. Im lost with this one.. did I miss somethin?

When I was looking for my furbabies I fell in love with two girls...
OH I fell IN LOVE...big time. But they were not AKC. I did not care. I just knew that I wanted them and that I loved them, and HAD to have them no matter what registration they were.

KINDA LIKE COLOR (KWIM) I fell in LOVE with the puppy Not the papers. :D

Well, when a breeder registers their pups with the AKC it kinda gives you more peace of mind that the breeder is more responsible. Some may get defensive because they know they are not "reponsible", otherwise they would have a nice and good explanation of why the pups are not AKC registered. I personally don't mind if they are registered or not. Bengi is not registered. If I would buy from a YT member who's reputable, I wouldn't mind if he's registered or not, because I already know the breeder. But when you know nothing about the breeder, AKC gives you a little more to rely on.

IMHO, any breeder who gets upset over a registry question needs a little course in anger management ;) .

It was explained to me that the AKC has far more stringent policies for registration, up to and including "dropping in" to review records. AKC is basically only of any value if you are interested in showing, and the AKC can compel someone whose breeding stock has genetic problems to neuter the dogs to prevent future offspring. I'm sure it gets much deeper than that, but there it is in a nutshell.

I have no intention of getting into a show ring with my dogs. Nor is it my intention to breed them. In fact, my little girl's breeder won't send you the registry papers until you send her the bill from a vet setting forth the fact that the dogs have been neutered/spayed. At that point, what good are "papers" anyway?

I can understand a breeder jealously guarding the right to add "AKC Registered Puppies" in their adverts, but it actually doesn't amount to a hill of beans: there can be "sports" no matter what. It's like saying my puppies are Ferraris versus your silly little Porshe ...

Both my pups are CKC. I really don't care one way or the other. I fell in love with little bundles of fur; I saw their parents; I kinda know what to expect. I couldn't love them any more if their registration papers came diamond-studded. I gave up "name dropping/recognition" a long time ago. To some, it may be important - and more power to 'em. To me, it's not a big deal anymore.

OK...how does reg your pups AKC automatically make you a "more responsible breeder?"

Probably so...I'm sure that this is the reason why LOTS of breeders, registry aside, become defensive...because they are trying to hide something shady going on. Or maybe they get defensive because they DO have a nice good explanation of why their pups are not AKC reg and are tired of being thrown into a lump category w/ a bunch of money hungry, lying millers. Wouldn't that get under your skin after a while?

Again, HOW does the dogs being AKC reg alone give you anything to rely on?

I'm not trying to start an argument, but the theory that "they must be better breeders w/ better dogs because they are AKC registered" gets tossed around alot and it's just not a valid/true statement.

I wouldn't own a dog unless it is AKC. I trust AKC where as some of the other registries, they can get papers on a dog that may not necessarily be purebred. This is my own preferance, however. I do not get offended if people ask me and you can rest assured that I'll be asking, as well. JMO

Reputation Means More.
 

I don't think anyone should be defensive when asking ANY questions about pups for sale. What I will say about AKC is this; I really do not believe that how the pups are registered is as important as the reputation of the breeder. I say this because I have an AKC registered Yorkie and after buying her found out that her papers were phonied up. The breeder listed another mother as the pups mom because the real mother was ACA or something like that and therefor the litter could not be registered AKC. I only found this out when I took the pup to the vet who I have had for 13 yrs. and he just happened to be the vet she used for her litter. When confronted she admitted to it. My contention is AKC, ACA or any other variation of letters is really useless because how do you know for sure that the parents are who the breeder says they are. This is why I think that when buying people really need to go not so much by paperwork but by the reputation of who they are dealing with. Elaine

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Did anyone catch the AKC commerical airing during Westminster? They said AKC is the only registery that matters...